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Okay, this might sound stupid...

 
 
Sax
08:18 / 19.06.02
But can someone quickly tell me how to pronounce "meme"? I've only ever read the word and never heard anyone in real life say it, and I might have to shortly.

Mee-mee? Meh-meh? Meh-may? Me-may?

Hayelp.
 
 
The Puck
08:26 / 19.06.02
just Mem, i think but im famously awful at this sort of thing
 
 
Ariadne
08:30 / 19.06.02
I think it's just meem, rhymes with seem. Why, are you trying to sound flash down the pub?
 
 
sleazenation
08:31 / 19.06.02
i think the idea was that it was pronounced 'meem' and spelt meme so that it rhymed with gene
 
 
Rev. Orr
08:35 / 19.06.02
meme - pronounced 'meem', from the Greek mimema 'that which is imitated'.



The Haus of the Rising Pedant is on holiday.
 
 
Sax
08:36 / 19.06.02
Two votes for meem - I'll probably go with that, then.

And yes, Ari, I am trying to look flash down the pub!
 
 
Fra Dolcino
11:34 / 19.06.02
You need a doctor mate. Doctor dictionary! (www.http://www.dictionary.com/wordoftheday/list/). The good doctor says:



meme Pronunciation Key (mm)
n.
A unit of cultural information, such as a cultural practice or idea, that is transmitted verbally or by repeated action from one mind to another.


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[Shortening (modeled on gene), of mimeme from Greek mimma, something imitated, from mimeisthai, to imitate. See mimesis.]

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


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meme

/meem/ [By analogy with "gene"] Richard Dawkins's term for an idea considered as a replicator, especially with the connotation that memes parasitise people into propagating them much as viruses do.

Memes can be considered the unit of cultural evolution. Ideas can evolve in a way analogous to biological evolution. Some ideas survive better than others; ideas can mutate through, for example, misunderstandings; and two ideas can recombine to produce a new idea involving elements of each parent idea.

The term is used especially in the phrase "meme complex" denoting a group of mutually supporting memes that form an organised belief system, such as a religion. However, "meme" is often misused to mean "meme complex".

Use of the term connotes acceptance of the idea that in humans (and presumably other tool- and language-using sophonts) cultural evolution by selection of adaptive ideas has become more important than biological evolution by selection of hereditary traits. Hackers find this idea congenial for tolerably obvious reasons.

See also memetic algorithm.



So there.
 
 
Persephone
11:56 / 19.06.02
Mee-mee? Meh-meh? Meh-may? Me-may?

Marry me, Sax!

Wait now, you're already married.

No, wait-- I'm married.

Roger Ebert says meem on the Dark City DVD commentary track.
 
 
The Natural Way
12:00 / 19.06.02
Aaah, that's what I like to see: loadsa marriage.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
13:05 / 19.06.02
Um, I have another pronounciation question.

How does one pronounce Edward Said's last name? "Sa-eed"? "Sed"?
 
 
Persephone
13:09 / 19.06.02
The former, sa-EED.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
13:11 / 19.06.02
Thank-ee, Persephone -
 
 
Ariadne
13:17 / 19.06.02
While we're on the subject, how do you say Persephone? Is it as it looks, or all fancy-like?
 
 
that
13:20 / 19.06.02
per-seh-phon-ee. Sorta. I am crap at phonetic stuff. For instance, I would render Said Sigh-eed.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:27 / 19.06.02
Reminds me of Watch, the crappy "educational" programme that used to be on when I was a kid. I remember they did a thing on Greek myths, and referred to "Per-seh-fown" throughout.
 
 
Sax
13:38 / 19.06.02
It's like Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure: Sock-rates.
 
 
Ariadne
13:39 / 19.06.02
So the stress is on the second syllable? I must get this right in my head. It's like Hermione, I had all sorts of weird pronunciations in my head till i heard that one said aloud.
 
 
that
13:52 / 19.06.02
Yes, stress on the second syllable... I too had problems with Hermione... but so does Victor Krum, so we are in good company...
 
 
Sax
15:29 / 20.12.02
I thought in Greek the general rule was to put the stress on the first syllable?

PER-sef-oh-nee.

And I've no idea why I've resurrected this thread.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:50 / 20.12.02
Nor me, but while it's here,

Why don't we build ourselves a word?
Build ourselves a word with ED,
Like 'looked'.
You take 'look',
And ED,
Build yourself a word;
All together now!
Looked,
Looked!
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:55 / 20.12.02
Shit. That was Look and Read, wasn't it, not Watch. Ignore me.

Wordy!
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:17 / 20.12.02
Huzzah! Words and Pictures!*
I'm an apostrophe
I shorten what you say to me
I'm not a comma
I'm not a full stop
Don't put me on the line
I go at the top!



*An educational programme presented by a flying hemispherical dude made of letters. Are there any UK kid's from shows back then that weren't made by acid casualties? Just asking.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
22:59 / 20.12.02
I've always thought Said's name should be one of those words you see describing actions in comics. It's just got that active sound about it.
 
  
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