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New X-Men #128

 
  

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Mr Tricks
20:29 / 25.06.02
On Phoenix:
there was also a storyline in the Original X-factor series where Jean Grey fused with the ambient experiences/memories of her Phoenix doppleganger... thus now having it's memories & experiences.

So it wouldn't be hard to figure that the Phoenix "force" would find Jean to be a receptive host as they have had "dealings" together in the past. According to Avenger/F.F/X-Factor history... Phoenix used Jean grey as a template to experience the world in the flesh (did Phoenix simply use Jean as a template for it's fiction suit?). Now that Jeans back in action with ever increasing power, it makes sence that Phonenix would opt to manafest through her, perhaps relying on Jean's experience in that mundane world to prevent the coruption/intoxication that occured with the doppleganger.

FantomeX:
Totally struck me as a Midnighter rip... pouring spring water on his head to cool off, rather than remove his mask to drink.

X-corperation:
Great!!! Absolutely, especially how it ties in with the Uncanny storyline, or rather picks up from. I enjoyed seeing some of those older 2nd & 3rd stringers...

Oh and is there something going on between Madrox and Rictor? According to this Rictor was last seen touring Mexico with fellow ... ahem classmate Shatterstar.

Other stuff... so good!!!

ART:
OKAY . . . quite a few rough spots but I love the use of panels in the story telling, Makes for great conversation sets...
 
 
Sandfarmer
03:24 / 26.06.02
What we really need is a twelve issue "maxi" series detailing the court battle between the lawyers for "X-Corp" and the lawyers for "Hex Corp" from Marvel Boy. We'll get that Grisham guy to write it and Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Jack Nicholson will be in the movie. Everyone involved will deny they've ever heard of Grant Morrison.

I smell an Oscar.
 
 
A
00:07 / 27.06.02
I just picked up a copy yesterday, and I really liked it.

Kordey's art is still rather ugly, yes, but his layouts were much improved. I don't know if there were any moments where i had no idea what a picture was of until i studied it for a while (unlike a lot of the Imperial storyline, like that picture of Scott and Xorn hanging upside down on the first page of one of the issues).

I think that if someone else was inking Kordey's pencils, the art might just be up to NewXMen standard. Look at the amount of detail in VanSciver and Townsend's cover (which i really like, even though it took me two whole minutes to find it on the shelves of my local comic store. the logo just didn't leap out at me, i guess), and then compare it to Kordey's crude etchings. The actual layouts, as others have said, are a lot better. Did anyone else notice that the action scenes seem to be really reminiscent of the action scenes in Kingdom Come?

I think that the sequence with Scott and Emma implies that they didn't sleep together in Hong Kong. Personally, i think that Grant is doing a bit of a bait and switch here. It looks like he's setting up the downfall of Scott and Jean's marriage, but what i think he's doing is raking them over the coals before their love overcomes all obstacles in it's path, or whatever. NewXMen seems to have a very optimistic tone to it, and I'm inclined to think that Scott and Jean saving their marriage would be much more in keeping with that.

Something that may or may not be significant is that, to me, the dead figures in Jean's wasteland vision seem to be Hank, Logan, Emma and Xorn, but not Scott (or Charles, for that matter). Of course, given the level of detail in the artwork it could be the fucking muppets.
 
 
The Natural Way
07:25 / 27.06.02
Personally, I never really assumed Scott and Emma did fuck in Hong Kong.

Jean asked him and Scott said "No" - That's enough for me. Scott's straight talking.....I don't think it'd be long before it all came flooding out. But he IS gonna fuck Emma.... Just you watch....

Remember what he said to Jean during the final showdown with Casssandra:

"Jean....I'm going to let you down...I can't help it..."

I have no idea how it's gonna turn out for Scott and Jean, to be honest. I assume it'll be nice and rosey, but who knows?
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
00:51 / 28.06.02
That line of Scott's was very ambiguous, though:

"Did you sleep w/Emma?"

"No. She kept me up all night."

...or something to that extent. Although, right, it does look like they never actually did the deed.
 
 
Ganesh
13:50 / 29.06.02
I think Emma's the original hard-talking Tart With A Heart (of, er, Diamond) and will supply good, good advice.

Personally, I was intrigued by the panel where the Phoenix speaks, for the first time, through Jean. Reading it in parellel with the first issue of The Filth, that image seemed uncommonly similar to the one which concludes The Filth - y'know, LePen, the seated figure at the futuristic control panel, monstrous activity all around, and slogans/images flashing here and there. In the full-page shot of Jean, the open cutlery case looks like a laptop before her, and silverware (and burning wasteland imagery) whirls around her.

Perhaps it's just another recurring Morrison motif; after all, 'The Invisibles' was full of variants of the Writer-God - still, seated figures using language to control the chaos surrounding them.
 
 
Ellis says:
15:55 / 29.06.02
There was a fart powered mutant? I thought that was just M/ Monet saying how she'd been bullied and called Stinky at school...
 
 
Tamayyurt
16:46 / 29.06.02
They mean Canonball.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
18:12 / 05.07.02
I just got it. The art is freaking awful. Since when is Jamie Madrox still alive? I thought they killed him off in A Very Special X-Factor.
 
 
Trijhaos
18:19 / 05.07.02
Madrox came back in X-factor before it got cancled and Havok was sent to the Mutant X universe. Offhand, I can't remember how they justified bringing him back, but I think it involved one of his doubles.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
14:08 / 06.07.02
I haven’t seen that many Morrison scripts, but if he is doing the panel by panel break downs and detailing the manner in which the panels are spaced, like Gaiman does, then he is certainly getting a better feel for Kordey’s work. The art still sucks, IMHO, but Kordey does seem better at a few larger and full page panels than he is at multiple ones. Also, he seems much better at action panels than his lumpy set up pics, like the ones with those messy X-Corps blobs.

BTW, white roses are a symbol for innocence, usually.
 
 
A
04:31 / 07.07.02
Don't you give someone white roses when you're going to dump them?
 
 
Ganesh
10:25 / 07.07.02
Or marry them.
 
 
Baz Auckland
16:29 / 07.07.02
I vaguely remember the Phoenix storylines many many years ago. Umm.. can someone give a synopsis?

I figured the minor x-men were brought in either to show the international teams, or to have someone to kill off like an 'expendible ensign.'
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:57 / 07.07.02
To the best of my ability:

Based on current continuity, after nearly dying in a plane crash in Jamaica Bay, Queens; Jean Grey's body was placed in a cocoon by the mysterious Phoenix force, and her mind/body were duplicated by the Phoenix, serving as a host for the Phoenix itself. This makes very little sense - mostly cos it makes no sense why the Phoenix would make a duplicate of Jean's body and mind when it could have just taken over the real deal. This reasoning was not part of the original story, because it was the justification for bringing Jean Grey back to life in the comics.

The original Phoenix story goes like this - after the airplane crash incident, Jean miraculously survives, with greater power than ever before. She changes her name from "Marvel Girl" to "Phoenix". As the story progresses, she becomes more and more powerful and that power drives her mad, corrupting her. She eventually kills an entire planet, and the Shi'Ar try to stop her, but Jean's feelings of remorse are too strong - knowing that there may be no other way to stop her, she commits suicide on the Earth's moon.

Later on, we find out that Jean and Cyclop's child from an alternate future, Rachel Summers, also can host the Phoenix force. I'm not quite clear on Rachel's story after she leaves the X-Men - I never really read Excalibur.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
19:13 / 07.07.02
Yeah in Morrison's Manifesto he said he wanted lots of expendable X-people. And you can kill Jaime Madrox so many times.
 
 
Baz Auckland
06:05 / 08.07.02
Thanks Flux.
 
  

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