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"Bumfight" videos

 
 
pacha perplexa
12:22 / 09.06.02
I couldn't help thinking of the cat killing "artists" (still didn't figure out why, though. Have to think).

From "The Observer":

"A video showing homeless people being subjected to appalling violence at the hands of pranksters has become a huge hit with British viewers.
The film features destitute people being attacked while they sleep and others being given small sums of money to run headlong into walls and street signs.

In one scene, two homeless men are filmed fighting in a public toilet while another is pictured pulling out his own teeth with pliers. The cameraman and a companion are heard laughing in the background.

Sales of the videos have rocketed in recent weeks after details appeared on British websites, despite angry reaction against the makers in the United States and fears of copycat attacks.

Bumfights has become an underground bestseller in the US, where it has sold 250,000 copies since being released in April. The makers, who financed the $50,000 film on their credit cards, have become millionaires.

A segment called 'Bum Hunter' features an Australian man dressed in safari clothing creeping up on sleeping homeless men. After jumping on them, he is filmed binding their ankles, wrists and mouths with duct tape.

Ray Leticia and Ty Beeson, the producers of Bumfight, defended the film last night. Leticia said the pair had received a flood of international orders. 'We're not surprised at the level of reaction to the video. People genuinely want to see this kind of thing: the British customers are probably just naturally curious. Who wouldn't be? We're all voyeurs. And the demand from across the world reflects that. So why shouldn't we provide it? It's an entertainment service.'

He added: 'We're not here to adopt some kind of moral code on what people can watch and can't watch. If you don't want to watch this kind of thing, you don't have to. But, as we're finding out, we have customers from across the world who want to see these fights. They're not merely curious: they're entertained by this kind of violence.'

Campaigners for the homeless attacked Leticia's claims last night, saying the film capitalised on society's most downtrodden. 'The whole concept is disgraceful and nauseating and seems calculated to appeal to people's base instincts,' said Debbie Lyne, a spokesman for London Connection, a charity for young homeless people. She added that the video could lead to copycat attacks on homeless people in Britain.

'It's disappointing that such sick rubbish is available in this country. It's also scary that people in Britain would actually want to buy it. Public perceptions of homelessness aren't exactly positive at the best of times, and this could only make things worse. The advent of the internet makes things like this easier to get. It exploits vulnerable and damaged people.'

A spokesman for Shelter accused the makers of exploitation: 'These are vulnerable people who need help and support. It is outrageous that they are being exploited in this way.'

Leticia said he came up with the idea for the video in 1999 after witnessing some homeless men fighting in a rundown Las Vegas neighbourhood known as Naked City. 'We realised that everybody watching was having a pretty good time, so we thought we'd make a video of it. It was fun to watch. We were interested in the humour value - this is not the kind of thing that video watchers ever get to see. So we wanted to represent it.'

Sociologists said there was an appetite in Britain for watching real-life violence. 'It's unfortunate, but there are people here who like this kind of material,' said Dick Hobbs, professor of sociology at the University of Durham.

He added: 'People want to see this kind of thing - it's shocking but it's true. Look at the rise of ultimate fighting - which sounds very tame by comparison to this. It's like voyeurism. People who watch this kind of video don't really see the fighters as human beings.

'The fighters are there purely for the entertainment value. It doesn't matter who they are.' "

Link: http://www.observer.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,729882,00.html
 
 
Shortfatdyke
12:36 / 09.06.02
"If you don't want to watch this kind of thing, you don't have to."

ah, that wonderful phrase that excuses anything!

love of money + base human instincts = anything goes.

sorry, that's about as coherent as i can get right now. too sad and angry for anything else.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:46 / 09.06.02
And of course, if you ignore that it happened, then those guys don't feel pain over what they did. Maybe that's the tack Bin Laden should have taken...
 
 
pacha perplexa
22:22 / 09.06.02

I'm convinced that people are definitelly loosing sense of reality, and with it the perception that someone might actually be suffering for their entertainment/curiosity. Or maybe this suffering, by being on video, may seem like something "real" (because it's "reality show") and at the same time "fake" (because it's on the screen) - and therefore not really serious or worthy of worry. Hyper reality, anyone?

What scares me most is the total lack of embarassment of this Leticia guy, the easyness with which he justifies doing such a thing. "It's an entertainment service."
 
 
videodrome
01:02 / 10.06.02
It's really quite difficult to express my disgust at this. The great number of ways in which this is wrong would seem to be perfectly obvious...
 
 
Molly Shortcake
01:12 / 10.06.02
"One prominent homeless activist, Ted Hayes of Dome Village in Los Angeles, is a Bumfights fan. Hayes, who organized the National Homeless Convention during the 2000 Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles, called the video "the best thing that has happened to the homeless movement in the 17 years I've been involved" for the attention it has brought to the gruesome reality of street life."

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,52971,00.html

Don't see this as being that different than Boxing or American football, just more absurd.
 
 
videodrome
01:34 / 10.06.02
It's entirely different. If anyone thinks that every homeless guy involved in this did so willingly without being misled then that person is gravely mistaken. There's too high a proportion of the homeless population (in the US at least) that suffer from mental illness for me to be convinced that every person in this video knew what was happening to them.

I'd love to see how you can actually compare a guy pulling his own teeth out to American Football. That's an absurd, ignorant statement, so please feel free to elaborate. Convince me with sparkling rheotric. Talk to me about rugby. And Mike Tyson aside, most boxers really do know what they're doing and are fully cognizant of the choices they've made. There may be social conditions that they feel drove them into the sport, but they've still made the choice themselves. Ever play any sports? Bumfight is not a fucking sport, unless you're one of the esteemed ranks of cockfighting fans.

I think that this is the first thing I've ever come across that falls squarely into the typical judical definition of obscenity. I can see no justifiable reason for the existence of Bumfight, random homeless activists notwithstanding.
 
 
Melissa & Ev
01:38 / 10.06.02
I read this article about ten hours ago and the sensation that it evoked has not left me. Videodrome writes: "It's really quite difficult to express my disgust at this. The great number of ways in which this is wrong would seem to be perfectly obvious..." and I quite understand. As I read it, a tremor ran though my body and in no way can I linguistically express the horror I felt regarding the despicable nature of some and the despondency of others. However, I fear that to many, the extent to which this is wrong is far from obvious. And I also fear, that I am not doing enough to clarify this.
 
 
Traz
05:08 / 10.06.02
Just think, in another ten years, if some loonball wants to see the snuff video of your ten-year-old daughter being raped, tortured and killed, he'll be able to rent it at Blockbuster instead of shelling out a few thousand to some guy he met on the Internet.
 
 
Margin Walker
05:16 / 10.06.02
CNN article here:

Laticia said the men were sober and mentally competent when they were taped. But an advertisement on his Web site states otherwise: "You'll see drunk bums beating each other silly," it promises

Note to self: "Marketing is evil!!"
 
 
Bear
13:58 / 12.06.02
Has anyone seen it, my flatmate came home last weekend with a copy of it. It's really fucking horrible, especially the "Bum Hunter" sections, the guys in it look really terrified.

I can usually watch anything but this is really disturbing.
 
  
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