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Northern Soul

 
 
Margin Walker
11:19 / 07.06.02
So while I was looking up that Nick Cave thing for Bear, I came across this definition for Northern Soul on Allmusic.com:

Northern Soul, for many, is a meaningless term because it doesn't refer to any specific kind of music. For many others, it's a term that means everything. Where most soul genres are named for either the region that the music where the music was created, or for the sound of the music, Northern soul is named after where the music was played — in dance clubs in northern Britain. During the early '70s, once the mods had run out of steam and prog rock was ruling the landscape, there were a handful of underground dance clubs that played nothing but '60s soul records, and they weren't any ordinary oldies. Instead, the DJs at these clubs were obsessive collectors, finding the most obscure American soul singles. Usually, these records sounded like Motown, Chicago soul, or New York soul, but they were records by unknown or underappreciated performers; Major Lance was one of the biggest names on the scene. These records were dubbed Northern soul because of the clubs. Northern soul continued to gain popularity until the mid-'70s, when punk and disco stole its thunder; however, it never really faded away. Some clubs remained open and there was still a collectors' market for the singles, and many rare singles were going for astonishingly high prices. Most importantly, many clubgoers, from Marc Almond to Bob Stanley and Pete Wiggs of St. Etienne, went on to form their own groups, which kept the spirit of Northern soul alive.

Now, in my ignorance, I'd thought that Northern Soul meant soul music recorded north of the Mason-Dixon line here in the US. I'd had no idea that there was such a thing in the UK. I've read a few articles about the Ska/Rocksteady & Mod movements going on in the UK, but read absolutly nothing about Soul music in the UK. So out of curiousity, here's some questions I've got:

*How does it differ from soul music here in the US in the same time peroiod? From the looks of it, it looks like the clubs were playing imported american sides.
*How did the UK soul sound different than the various US genres? How much of it was home grown?
*Then, like now, music lovers usually defined what they listened to by the way they dressed. How did these clubbers differentiate themselves from the Teds, Mods, etc.?
*How did this brand of soul segue into the music genres that were to come later on? I'm guessing that this was a big precursor to the Coventry Two-Tone scene that came about in the late 70's. Not to mention the new wave/new romantics--never thought I'd see "Marc Almond" & "Soul" used in the same sentence.
*Lastly (and most importantly), recommendations, recommendations, recommendations....
 
 
No star here laces
11:54 / 07.06.02
Well I used to be quite into this stuff, so I'll give ya my 2c. Of course Northern is one of those things that everyone has a different take on.

First thing - there was no 60s british soul to speak of. In the 70s a few 'Northern Soul' groups sprung up, such as Wigans Chosen Few, who were british fans of the 60s sound trying to recreate it. Their credibility was pretty much zero. Northern is an intensely snobby scene - the records have to be original, not re-releases, they have to be 7"s and they have to be rare most importantly of all.

Secondly, Northern soul was and is retrospective. THese records were not being played at the time they came out, they were being played years later. In its pure form it is basically only about music released between about 1963 and 1969, and music primarily from Detroit and Chicago. So its meaningless to compare with US clubs of the time where this never existed as a 'scene'.

Thirdly, Northern was not "cool". Southerners thought it was provincial and stupid that these northeners were listening to all these old soul records and wearing these horrible pinstriped flares. Which brings me on to dress. There was the phenomenon of the 'Northern Soul Suit'. I used to own one, but someone stole the trousers. These were tailor made suits designed for dancing. The trousers were triangular, flaring from the hip with unusually high waists and multiple buttons. Jackets had huge lapels extra pockets. So there were some stylistic cues from Mod. But a lot of people in the clubs were pretty ordinary northeners out for a good time and dressed fairly plainly. The culture was differentiated by the fact that these people were going out to clubs that played this music, taking lots of speed and dancing all night long.

No connection to the two-tone thing at all, I suspect. The kind of people the two scenes appealed to were very distinct, plus all the Northern fans I've ever met hate ska.

Now when I mean Northern fans, I mean people at record fairs and such like. I don't mean the art student Northern scene which sprung up in the 90s which centred around compilation albums, mod fetishisation and incongruous britpop records mixed in with Smokey Robinson, which is pretty much the modern face of the scene.

Recommendations? Probably the single most important label was Okeh! from Chicago which gave birth to a host of northern classics. The label was managed by Curtis Mayfield, which is also why the tunes and the songwriting are a cut above many Northern tunes. There are a couple of comps centring around Okeh which I'd recommend. The first is called "Curtis Mayfield's Chicago Soul" and the second is called "It's Okeh up north".

There are skads of dodgy northern comps out there, which are very hit and miss. Artists to look out for include Billy Butler, Geno Washington, Maxine Brown, The Flirtations, Seven Souls. The Kent Soul Supply compilations are usually pretty good in terms of content, although the vinyl quality is rubbish.

If you really want cred on the scene you need to buy 7"s but you'll bankrupt yourself if you try, because it's so oversubscribed that most decent stuff changes hands for over £100 per record. Probably a helluva lot cheaper in the US though. Ebay can be a very good source of original 7"s.
 
 
tSuibhne
13:23 / 07.06.02
If you find yourself in a borders, or some such book store where you can read the books, look for a book called "Last Night A DJ Saved My Life" They've got a whole chapter on Northern Soul.
 
 
glassonion
21:03 / 08.06.02
just buy the Wigan Casino Story on cd. swhat everyone does.
 
 
Margin Walker
19:13 / 12.06.02
Hey thanks y'all, especially Lyra for hir marathon-lenght post. Shit, I didn't even know Curtis Mayfield ran a record label, much less did anything before "Superfly". And I assumed there was a link between Northern Soul & Two-Tone because the latter came out of Coventry, which is described as north of London. Given my shit UK geography, everything south of Scotland and north of London is considered "North". And it sounds like a really snooty scene. I wouldn't even want to talk to someone who's anal enough to spend 100 pounds on a 7", much less envy him....
 
 
Sax
06:34 / 13.06.02
I watched as they demolished Wigan Casino, you know.
 
  
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