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Saving Internet Radio

08:05 / 04.06.02

This is a thread for discussing both Grant B's 'saving internet radio' article currently up on the barbelith webzine (so if you haven't read it already, what are you waiting for?) and tyhe state of internet radio generally?

So do you use it? what for? listening to music or international news?do you even think its important?

discuss here...

08:59 / 04.06.02

Net radio rocks. If I was American I'd save it.

grant- any idea on how this effects non-US based playlists? could we be looking at a new generation of 'offshore' pirate radio stations? and what about unsigned artists?

It's like the sixties all over again! except with good hair!

09:35 / 04.06.02

Good point, we may have a sudden flood of net radio stations based in countries without (enforced) copyright restrictions.

Personally, I'd use net radio, but it's worthless if you're on a dial-up, which I am. Last time I was in a net cafe, it had a lovely fast link and I spent ages sitting there with headphones, listening to hip hop stations. It cost me twenty quid in the end though.

11:26 / 04.06.02

actually i found net radio worked fine through dial up connections... until bbc radio 5 live switch away from realplayer to realone - a system that is not so far supported for free on the mac in the same way that the previous incarnation was....

Matthew Fluxington

13:04 / 04.06.02

I listened to WMFU all the time on dial up before I switched to DSL.

I listen to net radio all of the time, most specifically WFMU, which is a free form station in Jersey City, NJ - just outside of Manhattan. The horrible truth is that it's far easier to listen to the station online than in its own listening area, due to NPR buffer signals which mangle WFMU's humble little signal.

I used to listen to the BBC stations a while back to, mostly when I was still in school. I'd often listen to the BBC news while writing out homework, things like that.

There's virtually no good reason to listen to real radio anymore due to corporate consolidation of the airwaves - it's good to have a vastly superior alternative online. It's important that we keep it that way.

14:24 / 04.06.02

Canadian Internet Radio now in danger

http://www.2600.com/news/display.shtml?id=1177

18:24 / 04.06.02

The horrible truth is that it's far easier to listen to the station online than in its own listening area, due to NPR buffer signals which mangle WFMU's humble little signal. – Flux

This is quite true – I have never been able to get WFMU on my dial, while people who live on the other side of Park Slope get it just fine. The reception is quite spotty.

Because phone duties are part of my job I don't really take take advantage of web radio as much as I'd like. If I did, I'd listen to WBGO all the time. The weekend R&B/Funk shows (Rhythm Review and Fillet of Soul)get a lot of Europeans listening in on the Web and making requests!

13:21 / 14.06.02

This could be a sign that the industry is dying.

I put a thread up in music about the future of the industry.

13:27 / 17.06.02

http://www.clearchannelsucks.org/

from the home page:
"ClearChannelSucks.org is a free speech website dedicated to educating the public about entertainment giant Clear Channel. Clear Channel owns over 1,200 radio stations and 37 television stations, with investments in 240 radio stations globally, and Clear Channel Entertainment (aka SFX, one of their more well-known subsidiaries) owns and operates over 200 venues nationwide. They are in 248 of the top 250 radio markets, controlling 60% of all rock programming. They outright own the tours of musicians like Janet Jackson, Aerosmith, Pearl Jam, Madonna and N'Sync. They own the network which airs Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, Casey Kasem, and the Fox Sports Radio Network. With 103,000,000 listeners in the U.S. and 1,000,000,000 globally (1/6 of the world population), this powerful company has grown unchecked, using their monopoly to control the entire music industry. If you find this alarming, ClearChannelSucks.org is the place for you."

18:05 / 22.08.02

Good news? It looks like it, though I don't know how far reaching it is....

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IWT Bans RIAA From Accessing Its Network

August 19, 2002

Information Wave Technologies has announced it will actively deny the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) from accessing the contents of its network. Earlier this year, the RIAA announced its new plan to access computers without owner's consent for the sake of protecting its assets. Information Wave believes this policy puts its customers at risk of unintentional damage, corporate espionage, and invasion of privacy to say the least.

Due to the nature of this matter and RIAA's previous history, we feel the RIAA will abuse software vulnerabilities in a client's browser after the browser accesses its site, potentially allowing the RIAA to access and/or tamper with your data. Starting at midnight on August 19, 2002, Information Wave customers will no longer be able to reach the RIAA's web site. Information Wave will also actively seek out attempts by the RIAA to thwart this policy and apply additional filters to protect our customers' data.

Information Wave will also deploy peer-to-peer clients on the Gnutella network from its security research and development network (honeynet) which will offer files with popular song titles derived from the Billboard Top 100 maintained by VNU eMedia. No copyright violations will take place, these files will merely have arbitrary sizes similar to the length of a 3 to 4 minute MP3 audio file encoded at 128kbps. Clients which connect to our peer-to-peer clients, and then afterwards attempt to illegally access the network will be immediately blacklisted from Information Wave's network. The data collected will be actively maintained and distributed from our network operations site.

The placement of this policy is not intended to hamper the RIAA's piracy elimination agenda or advocate Internet piracy, but to ensure the safety of our customers' data attached to our network from hackers or corporate espionage hidden by the veil of RIAA copyright enforcement.

If you have questions, comments, or concerns regarding this policy, please e-mail riaa@informationwave.net.