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British Government claims no civilian casualties in Afghanistan

 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:38 / 12.10.01
quote:In the latest salvo of the propaganda war, the British government today claimed that five days of aerial bombardment had not claimed a single civilian life in Afghanistan.
The country's Taliban regime, which is bearing the brunt of the US-led onslaught, on the contrary claims that women and children are among the ranks of civilian casualties.

The Taliban claimed that 140 people were killed on Wednesday night alone, including 50 people from a small village in the east of the country and 15 killed when a US missile hit a mosque.

But Britain's development secretary, Clare Short, categorically dismissed the Taliban's claims.

"It is widely understood by refugees that there have not been civilian casualties," Ms Short told journalists at the Ministry of Defence daily briefing.


Full story.

Do they honestly expect anyone to believe this? NO civilian casualties? Not a single one?

Well, we'll soon find out...

quote:The Taliban have invited a group of journalists into Afghanistan to visit a village they claim was hit by a stray US bomb, killing more than 200 people.
It is the first time western journalists have been allowed into a Taliban-controlled area of the country since the terrorist attacks on the US on September 11, although several journalists have been smuggled across the border.

The Taliban claimed today that at least 200 people were killed on Wednesday in an air strike on the remote village of Karam, about 80 miles east of Kabul.

Nineteen television and news agency journalists are believed to have been invited into the country, including representatives from Reuters, Associated Press and CNN.


In other news, the Americans have started dropping cluster bombs on Afghanistan.

quote:The weapons - which scatter about 150 small "bomblets" over a large area and whose use has been condemned by the Red Cross and other hu manitarian agencies - can be dropped by B-52 bombers.

...The Red Cross last year called for a ban on cluster bombs.

In a report sent to the UN it said some 30,000 unexploded bomblets remained in Kosovo after the conflict ended. They are estimated to have caused up to 150 casualties, including the death of two Gurkha soldiers.

"Unlike anti-personnel mines, incidents involving these sub-munitions usually result in death or injury to several people as a result of their greater explosive power," the Red Cross said.

Cluster bombs are used to cover a broad area rather than a single specific target. The bomblets, or "sub-munitions", contain higher explosive than landmines and their normally brightly-coloured casings make them attractive to children.

An internal Ministry of Defence report estimated that 60% of the 531 cluster bombs dropped by the RAF during the conflict in Kosovo missed their in tended target or remain unaccounted for. Cluster bombs were dropped from medium and high altitudes during the Kosovo conflict despite official US assessments after the 1991 Gulf war that they were likely to miss their targets.


Jesus.
 
 
Ierne
12:02 / 12.10.01
"It is widely understood by refugees that there have not been civilian casualties..."

Ah. They must all be terrorists over there then. (Or is it that the refugees are not considered civilians...?)

Nice to know I can trust the media to be honest about these things...

[ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: Ierne ]
 
 
Naked Flame
12:22 / 12.10.01
This is pretty worrying.

I expect the British media to spin the story, to tell us selective or partial truths... that's an inevitable consequence of being human, really. But this sounds like out-and-out manure. And even if it were true, they're gonna have a bugger of a time making it sound like anything but fabrication.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:31 / 12.10.01
But it's worse than that - it's not the media saying there have been no casualties - it's the freaking government.
 
 
Enamon
15:00 / 12.10.01
Hmm... even if the Taliban is lying then what about those 4 U.N. workers?
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
15:09 / 12.10.01
Guaranteed the Taliban has, even to a small extent, exaggerated the reports of civilian casualties. No proof, and it's in their interests... but this? This is utter shite. Is this one person's badly chosen words, Fly? Or a party line? And exactly how many party lines had they snorted before they decided that this would sound believable?

Our country is run by bastards and liars. I'm off to the moon. For the cheese, of course.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
09:18 / 13.10.01
"No civilian casualties?" Two words- MY ARSE.
If there aren't, then it's a fucking miracle, and I don't believe in those.
Media manipulation- I watched "Newsround" on Monday for the first time in, like, fifteen years or so (UK children's TV news show). Pictures were shown of a bombed-out house. And even THEN, even on KID'S FUCKING TV, the announcer was at pains to point out that it was "uncertain" whether the footage had been shot BEFORE or AFTER the attack.
Fuck, man, can you save me some cheese? I think I might be joining you. Although I wouldn't rule the moon out as being another place to join the list of those "harbouring terrorists".
 
 
Hush
09:18 / 13.10.01
I thought I heard the Blair on the TV regretting civilian casualties. Is denying them and regretting, or are these sequenced?
 
 
Not Here Still
10:32 / 13.10.01
Originally posted by Flyboy:

But it's worse than that - it's not the media saying there have been no casualties - it's the freaking government.

Originally said by Bill Hicks:

All Governments are liars and murderers.

Enough said.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:30 / 14.10.01
quote:Originally posted by Not Me Again:


Originally said by Bill Hicks:

All Governments are liars and murderers.

Enough said.



DAMN fucking right. And (slightly, though not, I'll wager, by far) off-topic- is this a time when we need Bill more than ever, or FUCKING WHAT?
Fuck. Messiah only turns up once every couple of millenia. We go and kill the fucker at 33. Shit.
But on a serious note, these deaths that weren't ever gonna happen have now been confimed, and, apparently, were always likely to happen.
But don't worry.
It's OK.
We're dumping food too.
Fuck, ain't we all such nice people?
(Sorry to insult anyone's intelligence here, but I'm a sensitive guy, and I don't wanna get flamed by a bunch of twats who don't understand sarcasm. For their benefit- I'M BEING SARCY.)
 
  
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