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Upcoming Torture Garden! (Formerly Fetish club dresscodes)

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Less searchable M0rd4nt

01:13 / 11.02.02

We've done all this before a few months back, but it bears re-hashing in the light of the proposed trip to the TG

To help you to get a rough idea of the dresscode, (which is enforced, BTW) here's the TG website.

If you plan on coming but aren't sure if you'll be able to scare up a suitable outfit, this is the thread for you.

[ 06-03-2002: Message edited by: Mordant C@rnival ]

Less searchable M0rd4nt

01:27 / 11.02.02

PS: First person to do the "Well, I think dresscodes are really elitist, I mean not all of us can afford £2000 leather ballgowns, and I bet you're all body-facists and I don't want to come to your stupid club anyway" post wins a packet of Chewits and a ginger wig.

Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo

02:11 / 11.02.02

I would have to say that 99% of male "fetish clothes" look like something only a dork would wear anyway unless they were in the gym most of their lives.

NO one wants me in a fishnet shirt unless they like Bigfoot sightings.

We're The Great Old Ones Now

05:48 / 11.02.02

You mean completely unlike ordinary male clothes.

odd jest on horn

07:53 / 11.02.02

i hear you Rose! whywhywhy?

Jack The Bodiless

10:02 / 11.02.02

Oh, good one, Rose. Really stimulating point, which I believe translates as 'those clothes make you look stupid, due to your body shape. You should not be wearing them'. I was under the impression that everyone was aware that this kind of blatant body fascism was not an issue or a matter for sniggering at TG and events like it... and therefore irrelevant to this discussion. There's always one (two, three...), isn't there?

Whatever.

We're The Great Old Ones Now

10:21 / 11.02.02

I dunno, Jack, I think you're flying off the handle a bit early there. I was shopping for some exciting wear the other day, and I have very few self-condemnatory bodyimage things going on in my head (my self-image is an inch taller than I am, has higher cheekbones and sleek, rippling shoulders and abs) and I must say I thought the fare on offer for boys was either very expensive or disappointing. Whereas girls...well.

[ 11-02-2002: Message edited by: Nick ]

Less searchable M0rd4nt

10:45 / 11.02.02

Eeep! Clam down, everybody, calm down. Have some happy freindly lurve vibes, go on.

This whole "I'm too fat for fetish" thing is just depressing. Dr. Carnival prescribes a night out at the TG, where you will see people of all body types wearing latex, PVC, rubber, thier mum's frocks or whatever the fuck they like, and generally looking pretty damn good in it too.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

11:35 / 11.02.02

Oh, one thought strikes on the subject of clothes: Th' Teege has a theme for each do, like "sci-fi" or "medical" or whatnot. The last one I went to was "japanese", so you had everything from traditional japanese costume to manga to a bloke who'd come as a piece of electronic goods (he'd encased his head in a cage of expanded polystyrene. Took me ages to get the joke). Anyway, the themes are usually pretty broad in scope, so those of you who really can't face wriggling into a pair of rubber shorts (awww, shame!) might be able to interpret the night's theme in a way that suits you.

11:50 / 11.02.02

Even though I'm an ocean away and *sniff* won't be able to go to TG with y'all, I heartly second MC in that body shape should be no impediment in getting your fetish clothing freak on.

People like to wear leather, latex and assorted kinkwear for many reasons; how it looks to other people in a club is usually somewhere down the bottom of the list. If it feels good on your skin, wear it! If it turns you on, then that will show in how you carry yourself and you will indeed be perceived as sexy.

13:26 / 11.02.02

NB Unless you're Peter Stringfellow.

13:32 / 11.02.02

Ganesh: Who he?

If posting a pic is too terrifying, perhaps a link?

13:34 / 11.02.02

I'm sure someone more technically adept will oblige, Ierne. Suffice it to say he doubtless thinks he's the ultimate sex beast. He isn't.

pointless and uncalled for

13:36 / 11.02.02

Web-fu man to the rescue

Less searchable M0rd4nt

13:43 / 11.02.02

Re. Pete Stringfellow: Whilst we're all in awe of 'Nesh's mighty shrink-fu, I would venture to say this: Horseapples. Mr. String Man is possibly the most insecure person that has ever lived. I mean, all that media attention, all those pretty lay-deez, and he's still gotta backcomb that ferocious bleach job over the bald spot? Heh. The only thing Stringfellow has ever worn comfortably is his money.

13:45 / 11.02.02

Ah, but he actually looks okay in that tuxedo. I was thinking more of his ill-advised ventures into leather-trousered hell...

pointless and uncalled for

13:53 / 11.02.02

Yeah, I was going to get one of them but I didn't want to risk trawling through his mature content sites on my work computer.

Special web fu lesson for Ganesh.

Step one, through usual surfing practices find picture of intended reproduction victim on the net.

Step two, place cursor over the picture and depress the right most button. (depress in a physical manner and opposed to shinky term manner)

Step three, select the properties from the right click menu and from the pop up properties window copy the address.

Step four, close pop up properties window and return to our beloved homeland and safe haven that is barbelith.

Step five, prepare a reply in on of the many and delightful threads and by diligent use of the IMAGE button, place the address into the message.

Step six, bask in the joy of your wonderful picture posting goodness.

13:54 / 11.02.02

[off-topic] That method goes for cyber-cafe PCs too? [/off-topic]

The Return Of Rothkoid

13:54 / 11.02.02

As I asked in the other thread (but here, as Ganesh pointed out, is a better place) - what's the likely cost of new duds? As I doubt I'll fit into anyone else's here. Hideously expensive is really not an option.

13:57 / 11.02.02

Depending on the theme, Rothkoid, army-surplus can be quite a good option. You'd be amazed how many deeply pervy items (in la-a-arge sizes) are hiding away at the back. PVC wet-weather gear particularly nice...

pointless and uncalled for

13:59 / 11.02.02

[Apologies for the off topicry] that would depend on the controls that any given cafe decides to exercise over their computers. I would recommend that you try and see. Because of the nature of the given action and it's similarity to other actions, also of an un PC security threatening manner that you should be able to do this [please return to your normal occult sartorial discussions, thank you]

Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo

14:10 / 11.02.02

To clarify what I said, as it was quick and off-the-cuff, most male fetish clothing is made for Perfect men. Women get a vast variety of different types of fetish clothing, but for men it's fairly limited.

I have avoided fetish clubs, not because I am not interested, but because I personally would look like 15 pounds of monkey crap in a ten pound sack in it. And there is no way I would wear Nazi wear.

Maybe that's why I like my goth-y goth clothes...

Flame away, but no one wants to see me in see-through anything.

14:14 / 11.02.02

Flame away, but no one wants to see me in see-through anything. – Solitaire Rose
Aww, now you've got us all curious...

14:15 / 11.02.02

*coughs deliberately and looks away from Rose*

I have to agree with men having it more difficult for fetish clothing. For women, all you really need is a corset. ANY size woman can wear a corset. No, you shouldn't have to worry about body size at fetish events, but at the same time, realistically, that's not going to happen.

14:18 / 11.02.02

But men can wear corsets too...

The Return Of Rothkoid

14:21 / 11.02.02

WOI: Or just use a proxy service, like this one to surf anonymously. Seriously.

[ 11-02-2002: Message edited by: The Return Of Rothkoid ]

14:27 / 11.02.02

I will just say that I've seen some things at fettish clubs/balls that just should not have been. When it makes people wince, look away, and seek punishment to purge the memory of the sight from their mind, you probably shouldn't be wearing only a gold lamay g-string

14:28 / 11.02.02

quote:Originally posted by Ierne:
But men can wear corsets too...

That's true. Men's corsets are harder to find, however, and there are still many men out there who consider corsets to be a thing for girls, not men.
I don't think I could PAY Solitaire Rose to wear a corset. Although it would be quite funny

14:39 / 11.02.02

Just a quick response to cusm: taste, especially perverted taste, is a very individual thing. You may indeed find it distasteful to see a voluptuous large individual in a gold lamé g-string. The point I'm trying to make is that the person in the g-string is not wearing it for your benefit, but hir own pleasure/desire. Quite often there will be some other folks there that will get off on it – something for everyone!

At such clubs there is often a smorgasboard of various looks and outfits, so there's bound (heh!) to be someone there dressed more to your individual taste that you can check out.

[ 11-02-2002: Message edited by: Ierne ]

14:45 / 11.02.02

quote:most male fetish clothing is made for Perfect men. Women get a vast variety of different types of fetish clothing, but for men it's fairly limited.

I know I'd look pretty appalling in any of the male fetish stuff that consists of basically a number of thongs and pouches, studs optional. However I'm sure there are other options available which are better suited to body shapes other than "gym bunny".

I don't know the scene well enough to be able to get specific, non-nazi examples, but while having a quick google for bodies onto which I could photoshop Mr Stringfellow's head, I did see some decent-looking goth/fetish crossover stuff.

14:50 / 11.02.02

Although they can be quite expensive, a number of places do 'normal' clothing (ie. not adipose-tight) in fetish materials - y'know, leather shirts, rubber bike jackets, etc. They're a little more 'forgiving' of the Fuller Figured Male...

14:55 / 11.02.02

quote:You may indeed find it distasteful to see a voluptuous large individual in a gold lamé g-string. The point I'm trying to make is that the person in the g-string is not wearing it for your benefit, but hir own pleasure/desire.

It must be nice to have got to the stage where you're utterly comfortable in your own body, but for those of us who aren't yet there, and would like to dip a toe in and not look in the mirror and think "ugh, that's disgusting"... there's a limited amount of stuff. You have to start somewhere.

15:08 / 11.02.02

Wish I was nearer to London. I'd get to wear my (female) corset in public. Here at home I haven't frequented the KinkClubs, due to the probable and very likely embarassment of running into relatives. They'd just start showing me off to all their friends: "look, here's my nephew, SHe's a perv too!" I'd rather die.

15:24 / 11.02.02

It must be nice to have got to the stage where you're utterly comfortable in your own body, but for those of us who aren't yet there...–w1rebaby

Hmmm...I might not be expressing myself correctly. Also, my experiences are from clubs in NYC – although I suspect things are similar over in London, I don't know for sure.

Whenever I've gone, the general vibe has been "Okay, we're all pervy, we're all here to be the freaks we can't be out in the street/in the office/wherever else, this is our time and we're gonna make the most of it and have fun." So there's already an understanding and/or expectation that people will be more accepting, because by and large the folks in the club can't wear their fetish clothing – be it diapers, saran wrap, army/navy gear, corsets, whipped cream, leather chaps, or indeed a gold lamé g-string! – anywhere else without getting hassle.

Of course there will always be someone who will say nasty things...but they usually get introduced to people who are into verbal humiliation, so it tends to work out alright in the end!

Also, most people will be too busy looking at–or participating in–the various bdsm scenes to be critiquing everyone who walks in the door.

16:05 / 11.02.02

In the case of the G-String, it really was quite unbearable. But Ierne has it right. The point of clubs like this is for people to be able to display whatever kink they are in to. To police it would defeat the purpose.

Now granted, this is different from a high profile show where a strict dress code can be enforced, not on the basis of style, but rather on quality. The point there isn't to make a happy place for everyone, but to strut with the elite as defined by the folks running the show. That's where the $2000 PVC assless ballgown is for.

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