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Spatula Clarke
23:01 / 20.05.02
Morrison's Flex Mentallo comics miniseries gets uploaded for the benefit of those 'Lithers who don't own the complete set. Morrison's webmaster expresses concern that this may lead to loss of earnings for the Esteemed One. Posts are moderated to remove links to Flex pages. Virtually everyone agrees that this is the right thing to do.

Hundreds of links are posted to songs uploaded to Audiogalaxy. Nobody bats an eyelid.

Double standards? Let's look at this logically: Morrison is currently receiving no money from Flex and won't do for a very long time, if indeed ever. If a TPB does miraculously emerge it's extremely likely that most people who've seen the story online will still go out and buy it, the differences in reading something on your monitor and in a paper copy (where you can take it to the bog, etc) being hugely important in this case.

Almost all of the Audiogalaxy tracks that have been linked to are still available to buy. Quite often those that aren't soon will be. Here the artists responsible are losing out financially.

What made the Flex Mentallo case any different from these others? If Jeff Tweedy told Tom that he wasn't happy with the links being provided on this site, would we take them down? And would it be done as swiftly as was the case with the comic?
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
03:26 / 21.05.02
I always wonder about the idea of downloading songs simply because it was something we got for free.

What the hell do I mean?

Radio.

Radio was free. We would listen to some ads and in return we would get our music for free. TV is like that for the most part, and no other foirms of entertainment are like that.

Is it wrong to download songs? Yeah. Do I do it? Yep. I do it to hear bands that aren't on the radio to "take them for a test drive" and I download songs onto my computer I have on album or cassette because I can't easily listen to them. I download songs that have never been released on CD and prolly never will (live versions and remixes).

But, to be honest, I would buy CDs of the stuff as well if it were available.
 
 
bio k9
06:31 / 21.05.02
Hmmm. I've been getting a lot of stuff from the library lately. I went and got a Merle Haggard box set before work this morning. Do I need four discs of Merle Haggard? Not really. Would I have ever bought it? Probably not. I probably wouldn't have bought the Johnny Cash box I returned this morning either. Those artists and record labels were never going to see my money anyway. And I'm not going to buy a Camper Van Beethoven CD just to hear Take the Skinheads Bowling. They didn't lose any money when I downloaded that song. I did download most of the Wilco record and loved it. And I bought it the day it came out.

Flux sent me some GBV tracks a while back. I didn't pay for them either. But I did like them. And I've bought several GBV CDs, a couple of Robert Pollard CDs and even a fucking Tobin Sprout record since then. So that bootleg I got from some guy Ive never really met, clear across the country, generated sales that all their advertising and record reviews in CMJ and Spin and whatever other rags Ive been reading couldn't. It made them money.

So, I guess the point is: I spend the same ammount of money on music, I just get to listen to more stuff.

P.S.

Say "Hi" to Lars for me.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
10:36 / 21.05.02
Well, I'm with Cathal Coughlan on this one; "Please remember that downloading MP3 files damages the music industry - so do it early, often and cheerfully..."

I agree with both of you and often do the same things. If I like a track that I've downloaded, then I'll go out and buy the album. I wasn't certain whether this should have been a Music thread or if it should have gone in Policy. It seems odd to me that people expressed concerns over the free distribution of one piece of work but not others.
 
  
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