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HELP: £70 Book Tokens to Spend

 
 
ephemerat
07:48 / 20.05.02
Having won 2nd place in Hampshire Libraries Literary Quiz I will soon have £70 worth of lovely book tokens to blow. And I couldn't imagine a more illustrious and alluring bunch of individuals to help spend 'em. So, any advice from the Barbebookworms on tomes that are necessary and imperative? I'm currently looking at some classics (Ovid, Hesiod, Euripides), some poetry (Swineburne, Rilke) and some random other stuff (e.g. Ulysses) but any or all suggestions would be gladly considered, please... bring 'em on!
 
 
lentil
14:08 / 20.05.02
This is, I guess, fairly arbitrary, because it's just what i'm reading at the moment. However - it is the best thing I've read for quite some time: "Blood Meridian" by Cormac McCarthy. It's a tale of a bunch of scalp-hunters in frontier America in the mid - 19th century. NOT a "Wild West" story. Its major theme seems to be the notion that the history of human progress is a history of murder and brutality, that the destructive nature of humanity is our destiny and greatest achievement. i think he uses the "Wild West" because of its mythical properties, which the book is dripping in, and to concrete the link between progress and bloodshed. It is as if the characters are perched at an apex of history and endeavour, the "blood meridian" of the title. The prose is wonderful, generally sparse, certainly never unecessarily embellished, but still uses incredibly vivid description, and occasionally reminds you of narrative voice in startling ways. Tight characterisation, reminds me a bit of what Hemingway writes about in "The garden of Eden", the idea that you don't describe why a character does what ze does, you just understand why they do it and then write it.
I couldn't finish this rant without mentioning: fucking brutal, unflinching descriptions of all manner of atrocity (perpetrated by both whites and Indians). Never gratuitous, but still shocking.
God, i have in no way communicated a fraction of the power of this book. I'm about four fifths of the way through, and the scalp hunting party who are the focus of the book have become ghastly everymen stalking some hellish landscape and the impacable murderous intent of some external force, be it the darkness within man or some tyrant god, is increasingly palpable. And I am now utterly convinved that one of the main characters is Satan. Not some symbol for Satan, but actually the big evil Devil himself.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
14:39 / 20.05.02
'Lipstick Traces' if you haven't got it already, nice though over-written.
'Surfing Through Hyperspace' by Pickover.
 
 
Naked Flame
19:30 / 20.05.02
Best thing I've read in ages: Murakami, 'The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle'- apologies if you've already read, I just have to keep raving about it.
 
 
that
21:20 / 20.05.02
Some of the best SF books ever: The Ender Saga, starting with 'Ender's Game' by Orson Scott Card
Some of the best fantasy novels ever: The Farseer Trilogy, starting with 'Assassin's Apprentice' by Robin Hobb.
Fun non-fiction: 'Snowblind' by Robert Sabbag - the funny and fascinating story of a genius cocaine smuggler, Zachary Swan.
'NASA/TREK' by Constance Penley - NASA, Star Trek, slash fan fiction, with naked fan art of a hairy chested Spock thrown in for good measure.
 
 
Trijhaos
21:49 / 20.05.02
I would like to second the suggestion of the farseer trilogy. Good, good stuff.
 
 
ephemerat
09:22 / 21.05.02
Cheers for all the responses. Especially lentil, you lovely, passionate creature, you: I now want to read Cormac McCarthy. Quite a strange sensation.

Can I get a bit more info on recommendations (sorry, I'm a pushy fuck when it comes to books)? Is Lipstick Traces the punk/glam biog? What the buggering nuns is Surfing Through Hyperspace? What's The Farseer trilogy like? What's it comparable to? What makes it so good? Have read the Ender trilogy and it was, indeed, bloody marvellous but, please, no-one assume for a moment that I've already read a particular work: I've read a lot of books (over a thousand?) but there are just so many, many more! Obviously. Which is why I need your cultivated and learned help.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
10:31 / 21.05.02
Banana Yoshimoto. I love Banana.
 
 
Not Here Still
17:57 / 21.05.02
A second vote for Snowblind, plus there's a newie by Sabbag, Smokescreen, which is out in hardback. I got it in a two for £20 at Waterstones, but the book I got is The Dirt, the Motley Crue autobiography, so I'm probably not a reliable witness.)

I've also been reading Bliss To Be Alive: The collected writings of Gavin Hills, which is wonderful. Hills wasa journo for the Face, teh Idler, the Guardian, and many other magazines before he drowned in Cornwall in 1997. The book is a collection of his articles and writings, and it's absolutely brilliant. He writes on everything from dance culture to teh war in Kosovo, from depression after this wife left him for his best mate to Trainer Culture, and it's all top class work and highly worth reading. I certainly ended up with an impression he would have been one of the writers of his generation had he lived.

And John Pilger has a new book out, The Hidden Rulers of the World, which is very very good so far, but I'm only on page 35, so I'll let you know how that goes...
 
 
Not Here Still
17:59 / 21.05.02
Fucking hell, I've got to start slowing down on the the's...
 
 
Grey Area
19:31 / 21.05.02
Murakami's "Norwegian Wood" is a classic. For an interesting/funny read about the United States and their current government, Michael Moore's "Stupid White Men (and other sorry excuses for the state of the nation)" can be heartily recommended. If you're into graphic novels, I've just finished "V for Vendetta" and give it two thumbs up.
 
 
that
19:45 / 21.05.02
thread rot, sorry... but Grey Area, I just have to ask - is your namesake a ship mind from an Iain M. Banks book?
 
 
Grey Area
20:06 / 21.05.02
(apologies for continuing threadrot)

...yes it is. Was wondering how long it would be before someone spotted that. Congrats!
 
 
that
20:24 / 21.05.02
Cooool.
 
 
ephemerat
08:01 / 23.05.02
Re: Grey Area.

Arse. Always thought that was a Will Self reference. Never mind.

Read (and bought) V for Vendetta some time ago (and read what was of it in the original b&w in Warrior) - great stuff in that LSD orwell LSD orwell LSD kinda sense. Not that that is in any way bad.

Noticing loads of votes for Murakami. Feeling a purchase frenzy coming on.
 
 
Grey Area
13:30 / 23.05.02
Check out "A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius" by Dave Eggers. It's a bit like Marmite, you either love it or hate it, so I'd definately recommend reading into it before you take it to the cash desk.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
13:17 / 29.05.02
You know, I wouldn't bother with Swinburne. He's a bit florid for my taste, and all those bloody anapaests... bleh.
 
 
Ma'at
15:44 / 02.07.02

Some of my latest slash which should be sitting in your inbox and which will make me sulk appallingly until I have your critique!

The Just So Stories by Rudyard Kipling

The Moon of Gomrath/Weirdstone of Brisingamen/Elidor by Alan Garner

Perdido Street Station : China Mieville (probably spelt wrong)

Justine : Marquis De Sade

Macho Sluts: Pat Califia

Oh and I can think of a few more suggestions but then you'll probably hit me next time I see you in RL.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
17:33 / 02.07.02
HEALTH WARNING: Ma'at's slash may well give you retroactive childhood trauma, if you ever loved LOTR, Batman or Star Wars as a nipper. Personally, it gave me warm mushy feelings, but there you go.

Luke Rhinehart - 'The Diceman' and 'Adventures Of Wim'.

G.K. Chesterton - 'The Everlasting Man'.

Bill Drummond - '45'.

Umberto Eco - 'The Name Of The Rose'.

Peter Ackroyd - 'Dickens'.

David Conway - 'Metal Sushi'.

Woody Allen - 'Getting Even'.

...which I own so you might as well pop over and borrow them and this hasn't helped at all...
 
 
Ma'at
15:21 / 11.07.02
Oi Jack my slash is perfectly harmless unless you happen to be of a delicate and fragile nature!

I am deeply honoured that you found it gave you warm and mushy feelings...I was really looking for hot and sweaty but hey you win some you lose some!
...At the very least reading my slash should result in an inexplicable obsession with tall irish men with long hair!


Ahem before I kill this thread....how about anything by James Ellroy Ephemerat? Seeing as I have now shown you the wonder which is he!
 
  
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