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The Natural Way

09:56 / 21.05.02

Regardless, he's on the money and has the sales figures/general acclaim to prove it.

No-one begrudges Alan Moore for saying essentially the same stuff about DC and Marvel.

sleazenation

10:15 / 21.05.02

So did Rob liefeld for a while... though that ended up being very short lived indeed.
I think the comparionson with Alan Moore doesn't really work, since while Alan Moore has written politically engaged tales of revisionist superheroes he has actually done other things too. Millar thus far has not.

Its also worth noting that when Alan moore downs tools on a publisher he does by and large stick to his guns. The ABC stuff was planned with wildstorm whilst it was still a seperate entity - the beef he had with Marvel was resolved amecably in his favour (and after most of the personalities that had clashed with him had left marvel)

The Natural Way

11:02 / 21.05.02

Yes, but the essential situation is still roughly the same: writer makes money for company, gets them all popularlike and then gets pissed on by company.

sleazenation

11:35 / 21.05.02

The difference is the way in which Millar, Moore (and Ellis for that matter) have dealt with and or resolved these problems with theior publishers

The Natural Way

11:44 / 21.05.02

You know, we're talking about very different things. I was simply doing the apologist thing re Millar's vanity. The comparison between his stressyness and Moore's works, I think. They got pissed off about similar things and bitched about the company that got them riled in the 1st place. That's as far as I was going - I don't need correcting. Yr confusing me and the carpet's all soiled.

We're The Great Old Ones Now

13:21 / 21.05.02

Regardless, he's on the money and has the sales figures/general acclaim to prove it.

Yah. 'Cos, you know, sales figures are a reliable index of what's good. I mean, look at Phantom Menace. And Gladiator. And MacDonalds. And...

The Natural Way

13:33 / 21.05.02

I'd be happy w/ myself if I'd managed to sell as many funny books as Millar. Why shouldn't he be allowed to blow his own horn? Modesty can go fuck itself.

But, yeah, you don't have to like it, I suppose.

troy

01:55 / 22.05.02

Not to beat a dead horse, but my opinion of Authority #29 remains the same. I enjoyed it. I didn't mind the secret word thing. And I didn't mind the fact that we humans saved ourselves off-panel. What interested me was the fact that they made us fend for ourselves; I honestly couldn't care less exactly how we did it.

As for the self-congratulatory stuff, it didn't bug me either. Authority did have an impact, that's hard to deny. Maybe that impact was just a bunch of cheap imitations, but that's what ALWAYS happens.

I'm sure it would've have been a better issue (and arc) if DC hadn't started fucking with it, and it's a shame that they did. But, all the same, I still enjoyed it. Not a GREAT, revolutionary comic (it never was), but still fun for me.

Sandfarmer

01:38 / 31.05.02

I agree with both Ellis and Millar on this. As a fan, I'd rather the comic have not been finished than to have seen it turn to shit. However... I can see Millar's point. I myself aspire to get paid to write comics one day and If I were in his same position, I would have writen what they paid me to write. I would have been professional, fulfilled my commitment and then walked away. It's not Millar's comic. It's DC/Wildstorm's and if they want to fuck it all to hell and piss away their profits, so be it. Everyday in every genre, publishers pay good writers to write material for them and then editors throw it away and pay kill fees. It happens in magazines, comics, movies, everything.

Sandfarmer

01:39 / 31.05.02

Oh, and I thought issue 29 was horrible. I wish I never read it.

Axel Lambert

16:23 / 31.05.02

Um, wasn't it crap ever since Quitely left for Marvel? Parts 2-4 in the last arc, and that dull story about the new AUTHORITY (yawn).

Come to think of it, it was crap when Ellis did it, too.

troy

22:28 / 31.05.02

Thankyou thankyou thankyou World of Liars. I may never find someone who agrees with me that issue 29 wasn't so horrid. But at least you agree with me that Ellis' run was nothing to write home about either.

quinine92001

04:05 / 02.06.02

Poor ending to a great run.

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