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grant
18:25 / 17.05.02
This should interest older posters.

They just got mentioned on memepool.

Not a bad little site, although the "mission statement" seems a bit overdue.
 
 
w1rebaby
18:30 / 17.05.02
bah, I got onto memepool, if I can, anyone can...

Having said that it looks quite interesting. I'm taking a look as I write this.

Why should older posters be interested?
 
 
Mystery Gypt
18:43 / 17.05.02
grant, aren't there members here who write for that site? i just recently read the technocult article on inculabula cuz someone here linked to what he'd done on it...

fridgemagnet: some years ago (!) there was a poster or two here with a technocult address who was a much more exciting troll than the knowledge and everyone went up into an almost psychedelically fragmented huff about it. ah, the day of a thousand elois, we miss you...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:59 / 17.05.02
From memepool: Shy Kids. Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong, but these are faceless childsized dolls that you stand in the corner, right? Does anyone else find the idea of having a faceless child doll as an ornament a bit... well... creepy?
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
19:18 / 17.05.02
This computer lab won't let me access the shy-kids. Anything like this?
http://www.zeppotron.com/unnovations/stumbleboy.html
 
 
The Sinister Haiku Bureau
20:11 / 17.05.02
For the benefit of us newbies, or at least not-oldbies, if such a term can be said to exist, any chance of a barbehistory lesson re: eloi? What was hir deal? When was this? Why did ze leave?

I'm developing a theory that, just as every village needs an idiot, every board/community needs a troll (and cannot avoid having one). A community can only support a certain number of trolls at any given time. That's why the greenland contingent and Knodge are rarely, if ever seen together- there's probably some territorial agreements within the troll community. The only way to get rid of Knodge is to get in a superior troll...
Would eloi fit the bill? There does seem to be a certain amount of nostalgia attached to the suit....
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
21:41 / 17.05.02
any chance of a barbehistory lesson re: eloi?

Yeah, do tell. I arrived shortly afterwards, when folk were still talking about it in hushed tones; I was curious but the pain seemed to raw for me to ask up front. Then I got distracted by the bright lights and pretty colours.
 
 
Jack Fear
22:15 / 17.05.02
I dunno, Grant: I think that Eloi's site was a dot-com, not a dot-net. Different site, I think.

For one hint of Eloi's perfidy, children, dig this: he's a cybersquatter. He registered the domain name www.grantmorrison.com before Grant himself did, forcing GM to either use the hyphenated grant-morrison name, or buy the non-hyphenated version off Eloi... or lt Eloi be his webmaster... hoping to force contact, either confrontationally or collaboratively. Creepy MISERY-like "I'm you're biggest fan" vibes, there.

He also ran a site with "technoccult" in the domain name, which was set up as invite-only, and gave off unpleasant more-revolutionary-than-thou vibes.

When Tom was having money troubles, Eloi "offered" to migrate Barbelith to his server... like Andy Calo, he had a thing about "saving" Barbelith--i.e., co-opting it, remaking it in his own image--and, like Andy, when crossed he engaged in ridculous, infantile shit-flinging, including the creation of multiple fictionsuits who agreed loudly with everything he said, talked down Barbelith and bigged up the obviously-superior Technoccult site.

Betty Woo busted him, as I recall, exposing his real name and mailing address...

That said, the no-hyphen grantmorrison.com address now points to the official GM site, and technoccult.com gives me a 404--which leads me to believe that Eloi is no longer active, and his former domains have expired and been reallocated.

More interestingto me: the name "Klint Finley." There is or was a Klint who used to post here. Uncommon name. Same person?
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:02 / 17.05.02
erm... I remember some of that stuff... ahhh the mameries
 
 
Mazarine
03:46 / 18.05.02
Wow, that was what, two, three years ago? Christ... all I remember is the guy was perpetually crowing about how the rest of us weren't invisible enough. And being made really paranoid by an upside down blackboard eraser with the number 1073 written in block print during one of my finals. ELOI.
 
 
klint
04:01 / 18.05.02
Re: members writing for the site: yep. I run it and write for it. I also post on Memepool occasionally, but this is a welcome surprise.

Someone else from the board used to own the dotcom, which I now own, and they never, to the best of my knowledge did anything with it.

The mission statement, and new content, is indeed long overdue. So is the new layout. But there's only so many hours in a day, and so many days in a week. If anyone's interested in contributing, I'm all for it, though I realize most people here would be more interested in contributing to the Barbelith zine.
 
 
klint
04:51 / 18.05.02
And, for the record, Technoccult didn't initially have anything to do with Grant Morrison or the Invisbles. In fact, part of why I got into the Invisibles was because I'd read that there was some reference to "technoccult" in it. Of course now I mention Morrison in the blog whenever something interesting comes up.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
11:51 / 18.05.02
Looks dead to me, the redirect to the main page doesn't work and from what I saw nothing has been written since about Feb 2001.

So were they mentioned on memepool recently then?
 
 
YNH
13:11 / 18.05.02
So that's where Brenden Simpson went: another suit identified as a troll. But, really, the most benign of all. Jack, think you could came up with more detail for a historical account?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:06 / 18.05.02
Originally posted by klint:
Someone else from the board used to own the dotcom, which I now own, and they never, to the best of my knowledge did anything with it.

Well, apart from that glowing skull. Kind of disappointed to find out for definite that technoccult.com wasn't a secret-password, behind-the-scenes type deal, but not particularly surprised.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
16:54 / 18.05.02
Don't get too excited about the history of Eloi, guys. It was so damn dull...basically, it was the standard adolescent More Invisible Than Thou thing taken to new lows.

Dull, dull, dull.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
17:28 / 18.05.02
but there was a very exciting moment when a bunch of various "non-troll" regular members all registered suit names that seemed to be "eloi" and posted really strange things in an attempt to add chaos, mystery, and psychedelia to the trolllish precedings. sort of ramped up to velocity on the troll life span so it destructed mcu hfaster in an identity smashing blaze.
 
 
Jack Fear
18:55 / 18.05.02
Yeah, that's true: back in the day when multiple ficsuits were all the rage, some of us staged the Night of a Thousand Elois, where "EloiTsabaoth," "Eloi.Tsabaoth," "Eloi Sabaoth" and other variants all showed up en masse and succeeded in making the original look very silly indeed.

After that, the suit took on a sort of mythic quality: he was our very own bogeyman.

Later on, after one of the purges, the username "Eloi Tsabaoth" was registered (by Bizunth, I think), and the password e-mailed to a bunch of us: this communal Eloi was sometimes useful for contrarian shit-stirring.

I used it a few times, and found it an interesting way to explore (to use a horribly cliché term) my "dark side": at one point there was an extended, adversarial "dialogue" between "Jack Fear" and "Eloi Tsabaoth."

It was retired by mutual consent when (a) it became obvious that the whole mutiple-fictionsuit thing was out of hand, and (b) I said some things "in character" that came off as genuinely hurtful.

Honestly, though, [YNH], Nick is right: there's not much to tell, really, about Eloi himself. He (like The Knowledge) wan't that interesting in and of himself.

What's more interesting, IMHO, is people's reactions to him, and the way he became a part of the mythology of the nascent Barbelith.
 
 
klint
21:47 / 18.05.02
Duprey- I guess it's possible that there was a secret page with a password to get in. But the domain name expired so whatever it was it's gone now.
 
 
Ganesh
22:39 / 18.05.02
That 'entry page' was fooling no-one...
 
  
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