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Flying

Cloudhands

13:30 / 12.05.02

I keep dreaming that I am flying and in the dreams it's as if I know exactly how it would feel to be able to fly. Is it possible that we have ancestral memories in our heads from the time we were birds?

SMS

17:25 / 12.05.02

It certainly isn't the only explanation for thinking you know exactly what it feels like to fly.

This thread probably belongs in the Magic forum.

The Natural Way

17:48 / 12.05.02

Yes, I remember, back when I was a ROC, the fat, juicy alangrubs. The size of a large snout. Mmmm...how we ROCs enjoyed flying and alangrubs!

Less searchable M0rd4nt

18:03 / 12.05.02

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "memories from the time we were birds", Cloudhands. Humans didn't pass through a "bird" stage of evolution (at least not according to any recognized theory I've come across). Are you referring to the possibility of having been a bird in a former existance?

Cloudhands

18:08 / 12.05.02

seriously!!!

I'm interested in humans and flying. Why do I feel as if I know exactly how to fly in the dreams? why is it a common motif in martial arts films? Is it just because they are so physically fit that they feel as if they can fly or is there more to it?
In my dreams I fly as if I'm swimming so perhaps its just a result of knowing how to swim.

Mordant - I don't mean reincarnation. Pardon my ignorance I don't know a lot about evolution but I did think that there was an evolutionary link between birds and humans. Oh well, perhaps I was thinking of fish

Our Lady of The Two Towers

20:19 / 12.05.02

WRT the martial arts thing. Isn't it something to do with the charactgers all being godlike or something. I read something somewhere explaining the flying in 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' but can't recall it exactly.

The general theories of evolution suggest that all land mammals evolved from fish-like animals (or that fish and mammals shared a common ancestry) but while birds and mammals share this common ancestry the birds didn't then evolve into humans, just the Hawkmen from Flash Gordon.

Mourne Kransky

22:56 / 12.05.02

Isn't the Freudian interpretation that flying dreams are all about sex? I dream about flying a lot. But then I dream about sex too. Strangely, never about both at the same time. Might be fun.

Mourne Kransky

23:08 / 12.05.02

Now off to bed to have a lucid dream about John Philip Law (and his big, bulging wings) in Barbarella.

[insert very smiley smiley]

Shortfatdyke

06:08 / 13.05.02

i thought the common interpretation of flying in dreams was that it's about how much you are or are not in control of your life.

Cat Chant

08:10 / 13.05.02

maybe, sfd, but even so - why flying?

Cloudhands

11:17 / 13.05.02

maybe it's because when you are flying you're holding yourself up in thin air, it's quite a feat! and there's always the danger of falling

Mourne Kransky

13:35 / 13.05.02

I seem to remember the dreams where I fly quite well afterwards, more so than others. Perhaps this is because I enjoy them so much. Often there's a whole thing of me "discovering" how to fly and then I teach other people how to do it too. I remember vivid details of looking down from on high on various landscapes, mastering landing techniques, but never falling or feeling particularly endangered.

There is always an issue of having enough confidence to do it being essential to taking off and sustaining flight. That chimes with both shortfatdyke's theory and Freud's I guess but I really like Cloudhands'. I suspect my avian ancestors were Kakapos however...

It's a happy thought thast

Mourne Kransky

13:36 / 13.05.02

thast?

that

13:41 / 13.05.02

I don't exactly fly, but rather I kind of float directionally in my dreams. I can do it a lot, instead of walking - it's quite tiring and hard to control though. I often think I could do it 'in real life' too, if I could only remember how. But damn, I've been having some fantastically sick dreams lately though. Thast also a happy thought

The Natural Way

13:44 / 13.05.02

Flying, for me, often marks the beginning of a lucid dream - the point where I begin to realise that the rules of the space I'm in can be bent or broken. And that's only a hop, skip and a jump from "Hey...so this is a dream..."

Shortfatdyke

13:55 / 13.05.02

i'm pondering here whether flying could be the beginning of something else.... not 'just' a dream in itself. would be nice to have the control to take it further.

i've sometimes dreamt about flying and then dive bombing deliberately towards the ground, but the dream stops before i hit.

Mourne Kransky

18:40 / 13.05.02

Excellent! Doodlebug dreams. Gonna try to have one tonight.

Ierne

19:26 / 13.05.02

Now off to bed to have a lucid dream about John Philip Law (and his big, bulging wings) in Barbarella. – ZoCher

In the nest, of course – it has to be in the nest!

invisible_al

20:04 / 13.05.02

Hmmm last flying dream I had wasn't so much birdlike as jetpac, and yeah it is quite hard to do, lots of run ups and getting up to speed and less swooping majesticly :-).
Falling dreams now they're easy, just hit the bed not the ground and you'll bounce.
Anyone here lucid dream a lot, with me its very rare and just on the edge of my conciousness and when finally realise I wake up, fun while it lasts though.

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