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The Anti-Fuckbake Talisman

Less searchable M0rd4nt

12:21 / 05.05.02

This started as a throwaway joke, regarding the utter nonce I ended up sat next to in the pub after our little May Day jaunt.

However... I got to thinking about all the energy that I and plenty of others waste on guys like this: people so far up their own arses that they are beyond reach, but who won't just fade away and take their boolsheet to another table when advised to fuck off. And I got to thinking, How might one avoid this kind of interaction? (Apart from glassing the little fucktard in the chops, which would invite comment.)

Obviously, cocksmoking morons with delusions of intellect will always be with us. So, how about a spell to help identify the channels that they use to get under our skins, and block those channels?

This might seem flippant, but I'm sure if everyone thinks back they can spot at least one such interaction in their past.

Any thoughts?

The Knowledge

12:30 / 05.05.02

Ummh....Ignore them? Or move tables!

Less searchable M0rd4nt

12:38 / 05.05.02

Only works if they can be persuaded to let go of one's thigh. And not follow you to the next table, etc.

12:56 / 05.05.02

actually i've got rid of these types by holding my hand, palm up as if to say 'stop' and saying, very assertively but not aggressively, 'please leave me alone'. another way, of course, is not to drink in straight pubs....

12:58 / 05.05.02

Neuroliguistic programing with nonverbal language might function... it works when I want to shoo away book sellers. Another way might be to do a psychological agresion directed to the weak part of their egos, but that might have adverse effects sometimes. Probably trying a protection ritual or a good lock ritual at the begining of the day.

The Knowledge

13:11 / 05.05.02

Quote:

"Only works if they can be persuaded to let go of one's thigh. And not follow you to the next table" (Mordant "Bastard" C@rnival)

He was following you? That is creepy. Maybe you should have glassed the wanker.

13:22 / 05.05.02

i've something to add: mordant carnival - you're a powerful woman - be aware of this. as soon as someone like that bloke from mayday starts, be assertive. you have no obligation to spend/waste time with him. if he puts his hand on your leg, remove it or tell him to do so. a protective talisman might help, though - i feel much more able to do this kind of thing since i go my helm of awe/eye tattoo.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

13:42 / 05.05.02

Well, perhaps the pub thing is kind of a limited scenario. I'm thinking in more general terms here.

13:43 / 05.05.02

Why must there always be some sort of magical solution?

I would think the more mundane solution of a steel-toed boot in the groin would be much more satisfying.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

14:09 / 05.05.02

Well, (apart from the fact that I'm not exactly Red Sonja over here) in the pub scenario, I'm likely to be with blokes. If I get physical or threaten a man, who do you think he's going to start on? Almost certainly the guys.

I'm thinking of magick as a way of changing the behaviour patterns that put you in this kind of position in the first place, rather than the face/glass interface solution.

14:36 / 05.05.02

I was thinking more along the lines of Xena.

Whatever.

What about a servitor type deal that kind of warns you when you're about to go down a path that'll place you in a position you don't want to be in?

14:56 / 05.05.02

Invoking Kali? Bet she rarely had problem with fuckbakes...

17:37 / 05.05.02

Steel -toed boot is assault with a deadly weapon, anyway...or do they have that in the UK? Well, I'm guessing they have the equivalent.

Kali doesn't suffer fools, but there's also the strangeness that is her marital relationship with Shiva and her tendency for overkill. I mean talk about overprotective mothers. Perhaps a different aspect of MA (there are thousands) would be a better fit.

So what we're talking about is creating a screening process in ritual, either in the external, warding, sense, or the internal, don't-go-there-alarm sense. In either case you need a servitor/spirit/deity capable of fuckbake discernment, and let's face it, most deities have very, very low standards. If one were elect to go the invocation route, I'd say choose a god/dess of craft or other specialized knowledge...Hephaestus, Thoth, Hermes. I know in Daoism there's a cadre of deities presiding over students and scholars.

12:13 / 06.05.02

Perhaps some kind of karma check. What things are there in one's life that lead to living what one lives? Or paraphrasing it, What are these fuckbakes looking for? (beyond the obvious, on the karmic way). On your first post you spoke of channels. I weould check on the causal or in the psychological.

16:35 / 06.05.02

Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be aneffective invocation. If you freak them, you've chased them off just as well. Wave a chicken foot, make scratchy gestures and growl in a gibberish. They'll curse themselves for you.

Actually, the chicken foot thing is for real, so might be worth a shot anyway. I like that one cause its freaky looking, so people do the work for you. Side effect is that they'll call you a witch and might make more trouble that way. But it'll get his hand off your leg.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

17:59 / 06.05.02

The idea was more to use magick to address the personality traits that land a person in this sort of situation in the first place- proactive, rather than reactive. (Plus I don't actually own any steel-toecapped boots).

I was thinking of a twofold working, firstly to enable the caster to identify problematic individuals, and secondly to create a defensive barrier.

19:05 / 06.05.02

Invisibility works.

22:07 / 07.05.02

Mordant I understand what your saying.
As a magic user the physical realm oftens asks for a steel toed
boot but also the fine tuning of will over situations.
I have found myself in many situations that are not neccessarly
negitive but not the energy I want any where near me.And I would be needlessly
cruel to summon Kali on the poor sap that thinks I am cute on a bad day!
So what I have found very useful is Thorn Or Isa . I will quickly start
scribbling on my hand and visualizing rich red into the air before me.
The intensity alone of focus generally frightens them off. But some will
call energy vampires see a feast a brewing. For them there is a little talisam
I have been working on which is once again the runes in a bind rune. This so
far has abled me to keep my energy from being too effected by the outside world.
Kinda my secret detachment ring. Maybe these ideas will help? I used to gather
little peices of clothing buttons, wire , string and imagine all the peices mangled in my pocket were the next idots physicality. Crunching heehehee your in my pocket fucker!!!!!!!(Little vodoo trick)
unfortunatly for me there were not so fun side effects.

23:21 / 07.05.02

reply with enthuasism in a made-up language. hit the social reset button.

"nuy!" (nods head as if agreement.) "hek no mamo. mamo hu neza. ru fo lele."

etc.

12:58 / 08.05.02

If I recall correctly, Mordant doesn't have a strong interest in dealing with deity/deities, so that's not exactly the direction to head in. Science is her bag.

I was thinking of a twofold working, firstly to enable the caster to identify problematic individuals, and secondly to create a defensive barrier. – Mordant C@rnival

For the first part, I'm thinking of the chemical property of corrosion – the ability to wear away at an outside surface to see what's really underneath. Certain chemicals only work this way with certain other chemicals; perhaps in your ritual you can concentrate on focusing a type of energy that only works in this manner with the type of individual you are trying to avoid. Moderation is the challenge here – you don't want to corrode the person to nothingness, you just want to make sure you know what you're really dealing with.

For the second part – magnets can attract but also repel, depending on certain circumstances. (Mordant will know better than I how that works – Cheers to the NYC educational system!!!

) Perhaps if you carry a magnet in your pocket, and whenever a fuckbake makes an attempt to bust a move, you reach into your pocket, feel the magnet there and take on the repellent properties of that magnet. (Again, moderation & focus is important – you don't want to repel everyone, just a particular type of person with a particular type of energy.)

Wednesday morning 2¢.

13:33 / 08.05.02

So I read through the thread, then think "hey I've got an idea, magnets" that when I get to the last message

I'd work with the magnet idea

15:01 / 08.05.02

I like the magnet idea too Mordant. Perhaps, simply charging a magnet with your intentions initially, would help to focus the active properties of the piece. One could always paint a sigil/symbol on it too, something that enhances the magnet's fuckbake-repelling action.

I am also partial to the invisibility idea. I sometimes use different astral cloaks. Well, they are more like eggs really. The one I have used for repelling idiots is mirrored. The hope is, they will catch a glimpse of themself and just go away, perhaps embarrassed a bit. Sometimes, I have found, the use of the mirror simply irritates the irritant because they are so upset by what they see in themself. This has been the only drawback I have had, that and keeping an eye out for fast moving trucks! Invisibility does have some fatal drawbacks if one is not careful!

As Ierne pointed out with the magnets...
"Again, moderation & focus is important – you don't want to repel everyone, just a particular type of person with a particular type of energy" ~Ierne

The same care would have to be placed in using a cloak or you might get the sense they people are ignoring you (at best)or wind up in a car accident because the driver didn't see you. (I think the third time it almost happened I started to decloak when I crossed the street.)

I have not found a fool-proof way to deal with all idiots (Pun somewhat intentional), I still have to deal with my own idiocy obviously...hehehe. I know sometimes I am sent annoying or trying people to polish the spots on me that are a little rougher. Just like a carpenter would first use a coarse grit before the fine sandpaper to buff the surface of a table, so is the irritating, little, know-it-all, fuckbake that rubs us the wrong way. Sometimes, just thinking about that can help me but honestly, I do not think that I have thanked one yet!

~May Tricks

Less searchable M0rd4nt

14:54 / 15.05.02

Yeah, I like the magnet idea too.

A magnet has two 'poles', called North and South. You know the old saying, "opposites attract"? Well, that's where it comes from- if you put the North pole of one magnet to the South pole of another, they'll attract each other. If you put two like poles together, they'll repel and the magnets will push against each other.

Now, that's interesting, because it chimes with the old idea that dislike is an attractive force. Which brings me back to the idea of my own behaviour being the attractive force for Mark the Racist Nonce Courier, and looking to my own behaviour patterns for a solution.