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HELP ME CATCH MY PIG!!!

 
  

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SMS
05:58 / 05.05.02
I really enjoy the Powerpuff Girls.

My favourite episode, I think was the one in which Blossom and Buttercup argued over how to defeat the monster.
"Brains!"
"Brawn!"
"Brains!"
"Brawn!"
"Brains!"
"Brawn!"

And each time they went to fight him, Bubbles went along with the plan. And after it all failed, and her sisters were doing more arguing than anything else, Bubbles flew cutely into the air, and asked
"Excuse me, mister monster, sir? But We love out town very much and we would appreciate it if you would just ... leave. Pretty please with sugar on top?"
[Monster leaves]
"Thank yooou!"
 
 
rizla mission
16:07 / 05.05.02
The Powerpuff Girls absolutely rock my world. And I've only managed to see it about 3 times.

It's, like, the best cartoon ever. Mojo Jojo is the funniest monkey on TV since .. ever. And that's saying something.

I bought the soundtrack on import.

If anyone in the world is making Powerpuff Girls T-shirts in grown-up boys sizes, I will be very happy indeed.
 
 
Trijhaos
16:11 / 05.05.02
I like the episode where the girls take on different personas. You know, Harmony Bunny, Mange, and Liberty Bell. I think its cool how the monster berates them and tells them how things are supposed to work.

Have you tried Hot Topic for shirts like that? I don't venture into the place, so I wouldn't know, but I can't see why they wouldn't have something like that.
 
 
Saint Keggers
16:21 / 05.05.02
THE PPG's rock. My favorite episode was the one where all the dialog was ripped from Beatles lyrics. And the bad guys were called the Beat-alls. And Mojojojo was Yokojojo! Sooo amazing!!!

And they're doing a movie:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/powerpuff_girls.html
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
18:20 / 05.05.02
And did you notice the name of the reporter in the middle of that episode was Stuart Sutcliffe?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:18 / 05.05.02
The only episode I've ever seen was where the girls got body-swapped with the professor and a couple of other adults. It was fantastic.

Must buy videos.
 
 
_pin
22:04 / 05.05.02
Why, oh why, oh why, oh WHY must circumstances dictate that I have never seen this, and nor am I likely too?!

Gah!
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
22:12 / 05.05.02
Video available in your local retailer, or even supermarket.
Go and buy now. The Powerpuff Girls totally redefines the superhero concept. And is extremely funny. And brilliantly written.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:37 / 05.05.02
Four region 1 DVDs out, too.
 
 
Persephone
22:12 / 15.05.02

Which PPG are you?
 
 
_pin
07:46 / 16.05.02

Which PPG are you?


So yeah, HMV is evil and will die for not stocking this. I can't raelly afford the money/the time out from exam revision tro get a video of a show I've never seen, so it's probablly just as well, but I trust the people recomending this to me and my good God does this sound cool...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:01 / 18.05.02
After massive exposure to the PPGs in a very short time, my brain's going all wibbly from thrill-power overload. Just watched Meet the Beat-Alls and completely fallen for this series. Beat-Alls/Beatles references list here. The brilliant visual, event and dialogue references

(best dialogue ref: "Michelle"

(Moko's real name is Michelle (French pronunciation, as in the song).)

Judy: Someday monkey won't play piano song, play piano song.

(This is a syllable-by-syllable rhyme of the French lyrics: "Sont les mots qui vont tres bien ensemble, tres bien ensemble"—"These are words that go together well.")
)

are one thing, but it's the fantastic use of musical winks in this episode that proves the series' genius.

I've even gone all anal and got myself a Bubbles cursor for my desktop.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:06 / 18.05.02
And I've finally realised what it all reminds me of. Mr Morrison & Mr Hughes' Ecstasy-fuelled 2000AD mini-masterpiece, Really and Truly.
 
 
rizla mission
11:49 / 19.05.02
The last few weeks I've actually managed to get up early on Saturday's to watch Powerpuff Girls on Channel 5. It's on a bit later now - 8.55. Woo!
 
 
Jack Fear
13:05 / 21.05.02
The PPG franchise works so well, on so many levels.

The cartoon is indeed aimed squarely at grown-ups, but (and I say this from intimate experience) kids really dig it. Little kids, I mean—my Claire is five-going-on-six and she's a huge PPGs fan. She gloms onto the surface, while I laugh like a loon at the more obscure jokes.

Interesting, though, that in the merchandising and licensing there's been a conscious decision to aim at the kids almost exclusively. I pick up DC's PPG comics and read them with Claire: they're printed on snotrag paper, and are cheap and ultimately disposable, the way comics used to be. The letters page is all letters and drawings from kids 10 and under, and the stories focus much more on the Girls' home life with Professor Utonium—it's like ARCHIE with occasional fight scenes: easy for children to relate to.

I think this is a very, very savvy move.

And the naive craft of the concept's surface is very empowering for kids. The simplicity of the character design makes the Girls easy for little kids to draw, and the well-defined ground rules of the concept (single color, name that starts the "B") positively encourages kids to make up their own Powerpuff Girls. Indeed the aforementioned letter column almost invariably includes a new, reader-created Girl. When Claire plays Powerpuff Girls at recess with her friends, there's no argument about who wants to be Blossom—if someone else wants to be Blossom, Claire can be Bumblebee (long blonde hair, yellow eyes and dress: many pictures lying around the house): and if more than three girls want to play, well, that's no problem either.

And I know this sort of things plays itself out in playgrounds all across the Anglophone world: little girls imagining themselves as superheroes, superheroes they created themselves from the Tartakovsky/McCracken template: Bell, Beauty, Binky, Buttons, Bombshell.

I find that lovely.
 
 
_pin
09:51 / 04.11.02
Anyone see the film? I loved the film. It had stupid jokes and monkeys and THEIR HEADS MOVED. It was ace.

And there was a Sugababes music video all Powerpuffy at the start, and tho I didn't like the song much, that was quite cool too. And possibly made only for Randy.

Thoughts? Feelings?
 
 
videodrome
13:05 / 04.11.02
Haven't seen the film, but one of the DVDs has an episode, with audio commentary by Mojo Jojo. That rocks.
 
 
Persephone
16:08 / 06.11.02
*enter P darkly*

So I finally talked Husb into renting the PPG Movie DVD. Which he liked very much (btw the best part are the sets, so to speak. I love the Professor's Frank Lloyd Wright living room! I also love the whole color palette... must not steal color palette...)

Except...

Husb, carefully controlling his face: So you think that you're Blossom?
P: I don't "think" that I'm Blossom. I took a test, and *it* said I was Blossom.
Husb: But you always cheat on those tests.
P: SO WHAT?!
Husb, looks at Blossom. Looks at Buttercup. Barest hint of a smile.
P: YOU BETTER NOT BE THINKING WHAT I THINK YOU'RE THINKING.
Husb: So you want to be Mojo Jojo?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:03 / 07.11.02
Saw it. Loved it. The game of tag went on for a bit too long, but that was more than made up for by apes with giant brains and huge robot suits, the recap of Mojo Jojo's origin in the title sequence and the way the whole film worked as both an introduction to the series and a fleshing out for current fans.

But... it wasn't as a brilliant as the best of the individual episodes and Mojo was a bit subdued throughout.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:48 / 12.08.04
Resurrecting this thread in light of an interesting development—PPG Style, a re-branding of the Girls for the tween/young teen market. On the one hand it’s crassest commercialism—it’s a synergistic strategy with Delia’s and ElleGirl, among others—but by re-imagining the girls as teenagers, it makes them a focus for all sorts of issues of concern to teenaged girls: sexuality, body-image, fitness, self-esteem…

My thoughts on this are still unformed, but this is part of a trend that I find intriguing—that of age-accelerating icons of children’s media in an effort to remain relevant to the original demographic as it ages. I’m thinking of All Grown Up, Nickelodeon’s spin-off from its long-running series Rugrats, which imagines that show’s cast of infants as middle-school students. It’s the reverse of trend of the late 80s/early 90s, beginning (probably) with Muppet Babies, where characters enjoyed by adults and older kids were dumbed down—literally infantilized—to create “appropriate” entertainment for the very young.

Now we’ve got shows like Powerpuff Girls which are enjoyed by both young children and adults, but which older children might feel they’ve outgrown—while still lacking the necessary cultural referents to enjoy the homages and in-jokes as an adult viewer would.

Ordinarily, a tween viewer would move on to another show to which she can better relate, with another set of characters: but Nickelodeon’s innovation (copied, as with so many other things, by Cartoon Network—the way CN has been chasing Nick’s tail for the last couple years is a thread in itself) has been to tell kids, Hey, there’s no need to stop watching these characters you’ve grown to love—now there’s a Rugrats just for you.

It’s an interesting experiment. But the end product, so far, has been mediocre—overly-careful, overcalculated and second-guessed. The success of these enterprises is contingent upon the willingness of tween kids to be marketed to—to be patronized, really. I dunno—it's all pop, the artifice is part of the fun, yadda yadda: but when the adolescent hunger for "authenticity" hits full-blown, there's gonna be a backlash...
 
 
FinderWolf
17:23 / 12.08.04
I. LOVE. THE POWERPUFF GIRLS.

Just let me say that right off the bat. The show is amazing, pure fun, witty, terrific, all those things.

This 're-imagining' them as early teens and the contest on the site you linked with young girls become fashion models...yuck. Sounds kinda stupid to me. Why does PPG need re-branding? I know early teen girls who love the Classic PowerPuff Girls (so sad that I even need to add the "classic"). I know college girls who love the Powerpuff Girls, the FIRST PPG. Why, merchanidising people? Why?!?! Wouldn't Craig McKraken, series creator, put a stop to this???

At least their bodies as the young teen PPG seem not sexualized in the least.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:21 / 12.08.04
Thank God. Because boobies and ladyparts are icky.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:39 / 12.08.04
Check out the site and see the modeling, super stylish & mainstream attractive, Dolce & Gabbana 'in crowd' girl mentality that it seems to be about; that's my concern, not the 'ickiness' of 'boobies' and 'private parts.'
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:59 / 12.08.04
What are you talking about when you say "mainstream attractive"? The visual design? If so, I'm going to disagree big time. The redesign seems to shun most of the current CG trends - there's a complete lack of shading, characters are kept to a few shapes and simple lines, and so on. While it's a fairly straight transfer of the cell artwork into three dimensions, it's not something that's exactly par for the course as far as CG cartoons go (it does seem to owe a little to SNK's Cool Cool Toon, both in terms of the CG stuff itself and the accompanying 2D art).

I've not seen any of the new episodes, but I like the idea. PPG is a kids' cartoon that adults can enjoy - we're not the primary target audience there, and I think that's what you're forgetting. PPG meets Cosmo seems like a fun idea to me and a logical progression of the series (as in: if you *had* to age the characters, this would be the only sensible direction to take them in). Whether the writing holds up to the best of the original series, I've no idea. That's the important bit - that it's still going to refuse to patronise its main target audience.

And "not sexualised"? Dude, have you seen the look in Buttercup's eyes?
 
 
Liger Null
23:45 / 12.08.04
Well, I checked out the PPG site. I don't like the design of the girls at all. They don't look any older, just more "made up". It's as if Patsy Ramsey was suddenly hired as their hair and make-up artist, and she put them all in bright-red lipstick and ridiculous wigs.

There was an episode a while back that had the PPGs as teenagers and they actually LOOKED like teenagers. Why didn't they just go with that?

On the positive side, I highly dig the intro song
 
 
Spatula Clarke
00:16 / 13.08.04
I don't like the design of the girls at all. They don't look any older, just more "made up".

Well, maybe as far as their faces go, but how else would you show them to be a few years older while keeping them recognisable, given that those faces are made up of so few identifying features (two boogly eyes and the hair, and that's it)? There's very little material to work with there.

What's changed (other than the introduction of lips and glossy teeth) is the body shape - limbs that build up to a rounded end are out, sharp curves that form a point are in. If anything, I'd say the way the body's been altered makes them look nearer to adults than teens.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:42 / 13.08.04
So are they gonna make new actual, full episodes on Cartoon Network of these Teen PPG, or just little webisodes for the site?
 
 
Triplets
17:29 / 13.08.04
I just hope these girls solve everything with the power of fashion. Possibly by throwing shoes at everything. Makeup makes everything okay, girls!



Please. To. Fuck. Off.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:12 / 13.08.04
Why is 'help me catch my pig' the title of the thread, by the way? Is that a famous line from one of the 'classic' PPG episodes?
 
 
hachiman
21:55 / 13.08.04
Yes it is. Its from the kick ass episode where Fuzzy Lumpkins accidentally runs for Mayor of Townsville and beats Mayor Mayor. He then instigates a reign of terror forcing miss Bellum and the girls to pander to his redneck sensibility, turning the mayors office into a farm and making the girls do chores instead of fight crime. At their last nerve, and damned tired of chasing that pig, the girls convince the old mayor to wrestle Fuzzy for the position of Mayor of Townsville, with hilarious results. Not my fave episode but its up there.
 
 
Liger Null
02:32 / 14.08.04
how else would you show them to be a few years older while keeping them recognisable, given that those faces are made up of so few identifying features (two boogly eyes and the hair, and that's it)? There's very little material to work with there.

I would change the proportions: lengthen the bodies and limbs and make the eyes and heads smaller. I would certainly not give them those freaky little pointed feet.

My predicton is that the whole campaign will be a flop. They're trying to appeal to an audience that simply doen't exist. Girls who are old enough to be heavily interested in shopping and fashion generally consider themselves too "mature" to watch cartoons, at least for a few years. And from reading the accompanying text, the whole thing looks like it would be very patronizing to the smart kids-the ones who still enjoy original PPG episodes because they suddenly understand the more obscure references.
 
 
Triplets
11:05 / 14.08.04
I still love the episode that revolves around Mojo's average day, ie. going to the shop for more eggs/destroying the girls.

CURSES!
 
 
Liger Null
11:52 / 15.08.04
Do monkeys eat eggs?
 
 
Jack Fear
22:34 / 15.08.04
To paraphrase Samuel Johnson: If you can imagine a monkey transformed by infusion of a mysterious chemical into a green-skinned supergenius with an extracranial cerebrum, who dresses in high-heeled boots and little capes, and who has constructed for himself a fortress atop an active volcano that happens to sit in the middle of a bucolic public park--having imagined all that, then surely you can imagine him eating fucking eggs.
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
05:48 / 19.08.04
The idea of trying to glamorize the PPG seems a miscalculation to me. Granted, the franchise does seem to have lost some steam since the movie which, while a worthy effort, did crap box office numbers, so t'were inevitable that it'd either fade off the radar or otherwise morph. But the whole pastel palette doesn't do it for me, nor does sticking their familiar features onto slightly elongated bodies. I think this should serve as only an in-between point, and the next logical step should to take them into high school, and have them do more epic fights alongside the Justice Friends, Monkey, Action Hank, the Teen Titans, Samurai Jack, some sort of Cartoon Network cross-pollination effort, even if only as a one-time event. If nothing else, it'd be a helluva way to send off all these great series that put the Cartoon Network on the map as a force to be reckoned with in the '90's.

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