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Gamers? Geeks or Sexy Studmuffins? You decide!

 
  

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Trijhaos
20:58 / 29.04.02
So are people who spend all their time in front of a TV screen playing video games or down in their parent's basement pretending to be 17th level elven mages geeks or sexy studly stallions?

I think gaming is a horribly geeky hobby. It is a refuge for the trollish, the pimpled, and the freakish social outcasts.

 
 
w1rebaby
21:44 / 29.04.02
Except when I do it, when it's a sign of world-conquering masculinity.
 
 
netbanshee
21:49 / 29.04.02
definitely trolls...usually with bad taste in games too. Most people who know what's up try the real world ocassionally...
 
 
The headmaster
22:05 / 29.04.02
Yes. Creating a fictional name for youself is ridiculous. I quite agree.
 
 
Captain Zoom
22:17 / 29.04.02
I play AD&D every week. I play the Star Wars RPG every couple of weeks and will be running a Call of Cthulhu campaign this summer. Plus I own a store where I sell all this stuff.

I have it on pretty good authority that I'm relatively attractive, and I also go out and see bands and movies and take my son to playgrounds.

It's a good thing, I suppose, that all of my friends are social outcasts too.

Zoom.
 
 
Trijhaos
22:36 / 29.04.02
Don't take this thread so seriously. I mean who in their right mind uses the word "studmuffin"?
 
 
The headmaster
22:40 / 29.04.02
Not your girlfriend gamer-geek, thas' for sure.
 
 
w1rebaby
22:44 / 29.04.02
I'm going to do all I can to introduce my girlfriend to the pleasures of the d20. As well as being interestingly knobbly, it can produce all sorts of entertainment beyond the physical.

All I need now is some studmuffins to proclaim their support. Calling all studmuffins. We have Mr Zoom already... join us.
 
 
Trijhaos
22:47 / 29.04.02
Not your girlfriend gamer-geek, thas' for sure.

See its this attitude I have problems with. You admit you play games and suddenly you're some sort of freak with no social life.
 
 
The headmaster
22:59 / 29.04.02
Who said that? If I wanted to say that I wouldn't have suggested you had a girlfriend.

Have you got a girlfriend?
 
 
Utopia
23:37 / 29.04.02
hey! guess what! we're all playing a fucking rpg! welcome to life!

btw, first person who sez "life is a board game, not an rpg" gets a swift kick in the bollocks, boy or girl.
 
 
Trijhaos
23:42 / 29.04.02
Life is a board game by Milton Bradley
 
 
w1rebaby
23:48 / 29.04.02
life is a simulation of cellular automata, processable physically on a board but equally valid on a computer
 
 
Kopi
00:17 / 30.04.02
I think gaming is a horribly geeky hobby. It is a refuge for the trollish, the pimpled, and the freakish social outcasts.

I am neither trollish, pimpled, or freakish. Okay, maybe I'm freakish.

I play in 6 different rpg campaigns.

I bathe, shave, and even go out into the sunlight occasionally.

I am studying to become a computer programmer for businesses.

I have had my heart broken, my mind opened, and my life changed by my experiences.

So if you think that I am a freak, loser, or some sort of mushroom (kept in the dark and fed full of shit), you can kiss my ass.

If it was meant to be sarcasm, my apologies. I'm just tired of explaining my love of gaming to those who think I belong to a Satanic cult or have no idea what the real world is like.
 
 
Trijhaos
00:25 / 30.04.02
It was meant to be sarcasm. Look up there again. There's a nifty . Unfortunately, they don't have a smiley that denotes sarcasm.

Hell, I love games. Who in their right mind is going to insult themselves? Oh sure, some people will do it to help get their point across, but I'm not one of those people.
 
 
Utopia
00:37 / 30.04.02
how'd you like a kick to the bollocks, dog!? *wham*
 
 
Trijhaos
00:39 / 30.04.02
*clang*

Luckily I'm wearing my plate mail codpiece.
 
 
fluid_state
01:03 / 30.04.02
I just got back from a trip to the cottage. Me and three other people loaded 5 computers into a van and had the cottage wired for netplay in 20 minutes. We didn't go outside all weekend (due in part to the wind, rain, and snow). Yes, it is a little sad. And I love it. Now that we're back in the city, each of us will go out and be social (we have little choice)... until our next opportunity to travel 2 hours, bunker ouselves in the same room, and eradicate the scourge of friendly conversation from our vacation.
 
 
MaximusOverdrive
02:07 / 30.04.02
i can upstage all of you in your geekiness! i not only game regularly, but i am also a game designer! haha! i'm not sure if i should be proud of it, but hey, i do self-publish and that has its own indie cool sheen to it. i also am an artist, go to shows regularly, girls like me, i have had sex, enjoy taking showers and have a rather fashionable wardrobe. I'm also a very picky music snob at the same time. wow. zoom games and he's cool. i'm guessing so does Trij, kopi and tope, and they're all cool. i guess the archetype of a geek doesn't really fit geeks anymore. ;-)
 
 
uncle retrospective
05:52 / 30.04.02

i guess the archetype of a geek doesn't really fit geeks anymore

Oh, god yes it does, Burr, was at a Con 2 months ago and I had to leave on the first night. I never though I'd be a Gamer snob, I've been roleplaying 11 years now but god!
The bearded 20stone unwashed gamer still lives and is still playing magic.

puttup!
Of course in Uni we were the good looking geeks who got the girls.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:25 / 30.04.02
Rather like Warren Ellis' (?) classic "We were the sexy guys getting all the girls down the disco. Not like the American comics writers, who are geeks". Or indeed the lovedly Cameron Stewart's "Hey, I draw for comics and I've got the looks the ladies love!".

Which he has, clearly, but the point is that he also had to specify that he bathed, shaved (looking familiar here?) - as if this was other than entry level.

I think Captain Zoom hits the nail on the head with "relatively attractive". If you are competing with gamers, you only have to be *relatively* attractive. Specifically, attractive enough to beat the other 25 gamers in the race for the one woman in the E-Z Stretch Dragonriders of Pern outfit.
 
 
Kopi
07:30 / 30.04.02
Specifically, attractive enough to beat the other 25 gamers in the race for the one woman in the E-Z Stretch Dragonriders of Pern outfit.

Ooooh. Dragonriders. I remember being sucked into an online game once. That was fun. Until my weyr folded. Wonder what happened?

And Trij, no harm, no foul. Just caught me wrong, is all.
 
 
that
07:32 / 30.04.02
My parents haven't got a basement. Is a parental basement absolutely vital if one wishes to convincingly pretend that one is a 17th level elven mage?
 
 
The Natural Way
08:11 / 30.04.02
Well, most (tho' not all) gamers I know probably fit the definition of geek quite nicely. But that's okay - I like geeks as much as anyone.
 
 
uncle retrospective
08:25 / 30.04.02

Haus,
Rather like Warren Ellis' (?) classic
Sorry I was being trying to be all clever and paraphrasing in a piss talking kinda way, obviously not clever enough.

that he bathed, shaved (looking familiar here?) - as if this was other than entry level.
Oh how we wish that bathed and shaved were the norm it is in real life (as opposed to geek life) but it's still a very sad fact it's not.
Uncool will not be the new cool till it learns that soap is not the enemy.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:40 / 30.04.02
Hey. I was dead cool when I used to play Call of Cthulhu. Apart from the whole "playing rpgs" thing, of course.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:46 / 30.04.02
But seriously, folks...

I remember having a conversation vaguely relevant to this with Biz once. Essentially, if you are an anorak about football, or an anorak about automotive repair, nobody hassles you for it. If you are an anorak about fantasy role-playing or comics or the much-underrated Star Trek novels of Peter David, you are.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:51 / 30.04.02
And sorry, uncle R. - that one sailed over my simple head. See what you mean now.

Humperdidoo!
 
 
Ganesh
08:52 / 30.04.02
Mmm. Even other anoraks. Especially other anoraks.
 
 
w1rebaby
11:15 / 30.04.02
Essentially, if you are an anorak about football, or an anorak about automotive repair, nobody hassles you for it. If you are an anorak about fantasy role-playing or comics or the much-underrated Star Trek novels of Peter David, you are.

Football and cars are popularly-understood interests, so being a football anorak doesn't make you intrinsically weird, just extreme. In fact it can be a means of appearing more normal to be interested in these things.

On the other hand, being an anorak about something nobody else has heard of and doesn't have a subculture means you're weird but not necessarily sad - you're not a member of a group that can be stereotyped, you don't have weird outsider rituals, you're essentially "one of us" but a bit odd.

Being a comics or star trek anorak or a gamer, though, means you're identifiably part of a subculture with its own strange behaviour patterns. You're also associated with childhood - sad culture that we live in, the idea of playing and fantasising is seen as immature. So you've got not only outsider status but also are apparently unwilling to grow up and be a proper adult.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
11:59 / 30.04.02
There is no denying that gaming is geeky and I am by no means the least of the geekiest.

Like any sub-social culture there is an internal cool which is missed/misunderstood/ignored by those outside of the culture. Refering to something that you don't do as geeky in a derrogotary manner is just an example of human nature and it's inability to reconcile itself to difference.

I'd have to say that derision of a gamer for lauding the merits of their favourite gaming system is the same as laughing at a B-Boy for wearing low riding jeans.

In a strange way gaming culture is like a smaller version of music culture. Like CD people and vinyl shifters there are the computer players and the paper. Versions of games equating to different genres.

Another missive from the desk if IMHO.
 
 
BioDynamo
12:04 / 30.04.02

Used to be a gamer, but don't have the time anymore. Used to be a geek, but cut the hair, washed enough and started having sex. All changes for the better.
 
 
The headmaster
12:06 / 30.04.02
Anyone ever play-by mail? Guest, it's crime, Monster Island?
 
 
Captain Zoom
12:18 / 30.04.02
I think Captain Zoom hits the nail on the head with "relatively attractive". If you are competing with gamers, you only have to be *relatively* attractive. Specifically, attractive enough to beat the other 25 gamers in the race for the one woman in the E-Z Stretch Dragonriders of Pern outfit.

Ah, but Haus, when I said "relatively attractive", what I'd meant was "completely irresistable. Of course.

Zoom.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:25 / 30.04.02
Yes. Relative to the 38-stone man with the milky stains on his stretched-out Robotech T-shirt. And, relatively, to the 25-stone dragonriderette with the unwise leather trousers.
 
  

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