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Crisis News Update

 
 
Ethan Hawke
10:34 / 20.09.01
Clerics urge bin Laden to leave country

Afghan Clerics recommend that bin Laden be asked to leave the country for the good of the Taliban.

This seems a positive development, but maybe not so much in light of this:

Bush deploys bombers, to address nation at 9 pm Thursday

US warplanes are being deployed to within striking distance of Afghanistan, and Bush is going to detail the "sacrifices" the US will need to make to win the "war" on terrorism tonight in a speech to Congress and the nation.

This is a particularly galling development, as the Bush administration has flat out rejected an overture from the Taliban to turn bin Laden over to a "neutral" Muslim nation to stand trial in exchange for diplomatic recognition of their regime. While I don't condone recognizing the Taliban as legitimate, and I wouldn't support such an action, deporting Bin Laden to another country besides the US, or to the UN, seems a perfectly reasonable solution to me. If such a thing were possible, it would be the best way for the US to show that they are concerned with maintaining global stability and not just interested in blood. But the Bush administration seems to have only one tactic: brinksmanship. Among other things, they refused to negotiate with China about the spyplane. While that tactic may have been appropriate for playing with the fate of US equipment, it isn't appropriate for risking civilians around the world.

Incidentally, the stock market dropped again yesterday and only made gains when it was announced that planes were being deployed to "forward locations." I guess the Markets want blood sacrifice.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
10:45 / 20.09.01
Money trail from all 19 hijackers leads to single man
quote:

FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS told NBC that hijackers used the money from the unnamed source to pay for flight lessons, rent and even cash withdrawals at automatic teller machines.
They said they were still looking into how the source
received the money, and whether that link in turn leads back
to Saudi-born dissident Osama bin Laden, the main target
of the widening investigation.
The FBI and the Federal Reserve have sent letters to banks throughout the country, asking for any records offinancial transactions involving the 19 suspects — including credit card receipts.
Investigators were hopeful that recent changes in international banking agreements would make it easier to follow the money back to sources outside the United States. If the source accounts can be identified, they are hopeful that they can be frozen, either by legal means or through diplomatic pressure, the newspaper reported.


The article also notes that at least two of the hijackers were operating under the identities of living, law-abiding Saudi Arabian citizens.
 
 
Magic Mutley
11:03 / 20.09.01
I'm not sure just how the Taliban were supposed to hand over Bin Laden anyway - last reports are that he said farewell to a crowd of supporters & galloped off into the hills on horseback. Seriously.
 
 
rizla mission
11:25 / 20.09.01
oh boy.
 
 
The Knowledge +1
11:28 / 20.09.01
On a horse?
 
 
Magic Mutley
11:36 / 20.09.01
Bin Laden heads off on horseback

Looks like the "Wanted" posters were getting to him...

[ 20-09-2001: Message edited by: Wheaty Goodness ]
 
 
Ethan Hawke
11:38 / 20.09.01
Paging Clint Eastwood...
 
 
Gypsy Christ
14:29 / 20.09.01
la la la rideing through the desert on a horse with no name..
 
 
The Damned Yankee
14:54 / 20.09.01
Was the sunset in evidence?

I'm just picturing this guy riding across the deasert to the tune of "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly."
 
 
Ierne
17:36 / 20.09.01
More to come...?

"Law enforcement and other officials familiar with the evidence said the FBI is investigating whether the terrorist network behind Tuesday's attacks targeted more flights for hijacking beyond the four that crashed.

Authorities have grown increasingly certain -- from intelligence intercepts, witness interviews and evidence gathered in hijackers' cars and homes -- that a second wave of violence was planned by collaborators. They said Sept. 22 has emerged as an important date in the evidence, but declined to be more specific."
 
 
Genie
18:19 / 20.09.01
Did Bin Laden ride out of Afghanistan through the tunnels built with CIA funds, so that he and his Arab Afghans could, errr, ummm, flee the country if they were ever in danger?

I love this movie. It's great.
 
 
Gypsy Christ
03:47 / 22.09.01
hmm, sounds like they pretty much know bout were the bases are..or something. i dunno i'm confused. my brain hurts i needa brake from all this war stuff
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
01:42 / 23.09.01
He rode off on horseback...

Anyone remember Rambo III and how we all thought the idea of him riding into a big battle on horseback was a dumb idea?

OK, it still is, but this story continues to get more and more surreal as time goes on.

Of course, I don't think the Good the Bad and the Ugly is quite right. Maybe Fistful of Dollars.
 
 
The Damned Yankee
04:16 / 23.09.01
Yeah, but "The Good . . ." has better music.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
01:42 / 24.09.01
quote:Originally posted by The Damned Yankee:
Yeah, but "The Good . . ." has better music.


OK you've got me there. ON the way home tonight I listened to a BBC interview with someone who spent year in Afghanistan as a travel writer, talking about how the people there dislike bin Lauden and actively hate the Taliban...

But they still have resentment for the US for abandoning them after they beat the Russians.

This keeps getting uglier and uglier...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
03:07 / 24.09.01
And I think "the bad..." is more apposite.
 
  
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