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Prolific - topic includes Film, Books, Art, Comics

 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:32 / 17.04.02
As stated in the title, this thread is not just about music, it is only located in the music forum. This topic is open to discussion of any and all art.

Videodrome wrote:

Another thing, worthy of its own thread: In ten years, Fincher has made five pictures. (Not including videos and that BMW stuff.) From 1950 to 1960 Hitchcock made 12 pictures, and that's fairly comprable for many of the golden Hollywood directors, and even those of the French New Wave, though Hitch may have been slightly more prolific than most. So today the best directors are signifigantly less prolific than the greats of 50 years ago - how does that change the way their careers are developed, and how do we assess them differently? Many pictures now are more technically accomplished, but on each one rests a proportionally greater career percentage. If Hitchcock made a picture like Panic Room (and he did - many) then you just figured there'd be another one in nine months. From Fincher, we may have to wait three years. Discuss.

The issue of the prolific artist and the popular perceptions about what a prolific or non-prolific artist's body of work means is obviously something which is changing all of the time - it seems that overall, the demand for prolific artists has diminished greatly, placing greater emphasis on 'event' works of art that arrive every few years, making that work easier to market to casual consumers because it requires less attention and the artist does not need to compete with themselves in the marketplace.

Still, as a result, popular perception of that artist can be hurt greatly by a mis-step that it takes the artist a few years to back up on, facillitating a fickle audience who is unforgiving of mistakes and flights of fancy. I think that working in a marketplace like this allows cynical calculation and conservatism to thrive - many artists become terrified of taking risks or being playful with their art.

On the other hand, prolific artists who allow the public to bear witness to their continuing evolution by constantly creating/releasing new material tend to be put down by the general concensus of the public and the media - one big example that comes to mind for me is Guided By Voices, who put out an average of 5 records per year. Obviously, not all of this material is first rate, and it's not easy to be a dedicated fan (it gets really confusing), much less create new ones. GBV's individual albums and eps tend to be criticized for being relatively minor and lacking in quality control, but I think that a lot of the time it's because most people are missing out on the context, and can't see how things fit into Bob Pollard's ouvre. It's not exactly their fault, but I really don't think it's Pollard's either.

So........how do you relate to prolific artists? Do you favor them? Disrespect them? Is it a question of quality control, or openness?
 
 
kid coagulant
18:52 / 17.04.02
A few people spring to mind. Prince, Woody Allen, Stephen King, and Ani DiFranco. What do they have in common?

- They’ve been around forever (or at least it seems that they have) , have either been prolific for their entire career or have had specific periods of prolificacy.

- They all take a more or less do-it-yourself approach to their work (Prince and DiFranco have ventured into self-publishing their music, King’s experimented w/ e-books, and Allen eschews the studio system) .

- This may be something of a stretch but they also seem to be solitary people who do not seek the spotlight, that they are concerned w/ their art more than their image, though one could say that they are constantly seeking approval through their outpouring of work.

- They’ve established their own 'scenes' : Allen’s Upper East Side, King’s rural Maine, Prince’s Minneapolis, DiFranco’s Buffalo (not sure about that last one) .

- Aside from King and parts of Prince’s career, they are more critically acclaimed than publicly. King would be the odd person out of this bunch in that he has received a great deal of public acclaim but not too much critically.

- Some could argue that Prince peaked w/ ‘Purple Rain’ , Allen w/ ‘Annie Hall’ , that King has been recycling the same stories for the past 20 years, etc.

Obviously these aren't hard and fast rules, and looking back it doesn't even really address what Flux was asking. But anyway. How do they do it? How are they able to produce as much as they do? Why do we care?
 
 
Cop Killer
17:55 / 19.04.02
I love prolific artistry. GBV are a prime example of this love, some of their stuff ain't that great, but there's at least one oddly beautiful song on each EP they put out, which is more than can be said for some bands that take forever to put out shit. The other prime example of this type for releasing music is Billy Childish, who, under different bands and through his own name, has put out god knows how many albums and probably around ten times as many EP's. Granted, they all sound similar, but if I was that good at writing garage rock type stuff, I'd put out stuff non-stop.
 
  
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