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Y Tu Mama Tambien

 
 
Tamayyurt
23:30 / 09.04.02
This Mexican film is great. It's about two sex crazed kids who manage to convince a hot married woman to go on a road trip with them to a ( fictional i.e. they lied) beach. It's raunchier than American Pie and much more endearing.

www.ytumamatambien.com

I speak spanish so I was wondering if any non-spanish speakers have seen this (they've obviously got subtitles which even I had to use). What'd you think?
 
 
Saint Keggers
02:48 / 10.04.02
Well I speak VERY little spanish.."Quanto es los bluejeans?" having ditched most of my college spanish course to go pubbing. But I did read a good write-up of it on www.nerve.com and Ebert and Roeper really like it and went on and on about how it was the kind of sex movie kids should see but it would probably end up getting at least an "R" rating so they're stuck seeing trash like American Pie.
Im planning on seeing it eventually.
 
 
Tamayyurt
03:05 / 10.04.02
I think they were gonna give it an NC17 but they ended up not rating it at all.
 
 
Margin Walker
03:49 / 10.04.02
I don't mean to rot this thread before it even has a chance to start, but anybody care to comment about foreign films & the MPAA? For example, almost any domestic film wouldn't see a full-scale theatrical release without 1) a MPAA rating that 2) isn't NC-17 or under (Angel Heart in particular springs to mind). In comparison, it would seem that foreign films (especially the sexually explicit ones the MPAA is so prudish about) can somehow get shown without a rating (are Amoldovar & Greenaway's flicks even rated in the US?). Is this the influence of the studio? The indifference of the MPAA? Just satisfied with the $'s of payola they get from US films that they don't bother with foreign films?
 
 
The Strobe
09:19 / 10.04.02
This also happened with Requiem for a Dream. Arronosfky was told he could cut it and it would be given an R rating, or leave it uncut and they'd give it an NC-17. NC-17 is a kiss of death to a movie, really.

So there's a cut rental video version that says "EDITED VERSION" on the title screen.

But for the theatrical release, Arronofsky+distributers said "sod it. We'll leave it uncert and issue warnings ourselves". And thus let the public themselves decide.

The American ratings scheme really pisses me off; R is meant to have some degree of restriction but really means sod all, and what they will pass R and what they won't is VERY infuriating. They're certainly violence friendly... the British scheme, whilst not perfect, works better by ensuring legal bindings lower down the scale (even if "15" is becoming very contentious now, I believe... what can't you show?)
 
 
grant
14:02 / 10.04.02
Greenaway's "The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover" was the second movie shown in America under the NC-17 banner (the first was "Henry and June").

I've been *really* interested in "Y Tu Mama Tambien," but haven't gotten my act together to go see it.

Love road trips. Love older women. Love Mexico. Love sex.
What's not to love?
 
 
Utopia
01:21 / 16.04.02
Well, I thought it was good, but it didn't blow me away, I'm hard to imprees though, and I suggest that you see this rather than Blade 2.
 
 
The Dadaist
03:38 / 19.04.02
I saw Y tu mama tambien here in Argentina. And I liked it very much.
Impulsivelad: Hablas espaƱol? Yo soy de Argentina.
 
 
Tamayyurt
23:17 / 21.04.02
Yeah, I'm sorta Cuban.

niƱoimpulsivo
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
08:44 / 24.04.02
thought this was just okay.

some of the acting was a it ropey was it not?
 
 
grant
19:01 / 08.05.02
Just saw it last night.

Man, I like it. A bit slow, occasionally clunky, but it's got style. And spunk in the swimming pool.

A lot of sex and a lot of death.

I could tell, from the Spanish I know, that the subtitles weren't following what was being said very closely.

I've also camped on beaches in Mexico, so it brought back memories for me.

The soundtrack was surprising too. I stayed through the credits... Brian Eno? Senor Coconut? Frank Zappa.
Coool.
 
 
captain piss
21:52 / 08.05.02
I liked it- it's poignant but still has you leaving the cinema with a yearning for a bit more life, and things.
Yeah, the spunk in the pool provoked prurient chuckling and aah-ing in my London cinema- sounded like there were lots of Spanish speakers in there, though.
I dunno- it was definitely funny, even with subtitles.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
00:55 / 31.05.02
Just saw it last night and thought it was very clever, on several levels.


Not only was the teen road trip story fun but it also did a nice job on commenting on society in Mexico - the president whose party had been in power for 71 years (and who went up to the battle in Seattle!) - the poor folks pulled over on the side of the road by the military. Also the circular time element (a year from now, five years ago.. in the narration).

Went with a friend of mine who is fluent in Spanish and she said it was too bad not all of the jokes were translated. I still enjoyed it and although I don't speak too much Spanish I could differentiate between the Spaniard's accent and the Mexican one (probably from living in Chicago, who knows?)

Very god stuff however!
 
 
Mr Tricks
21:42 / 31.05.02
Yeah... the subtitles tomed down lots of the dirty language as well...

great stuff though...
 
 
Disco is My Class War
06:15 / 02.09.02
I'm bumping this back to the top, 'cause I saw this movie on the weekend and wrote a review of it, sliiping into other stuff, on my livejournal. Which I think I'll just quote...

(Could start a whole new thread about sexuality and whatever in the Head Shop -- moderators please do so if you wish.)

"Saw Y Tu Mama Tambien on the weekend. I think it's possibly one of the best movies I've seen all year and okay, maybe that's 'cause it was all about sex, which was fitting given the mood I was in. Or maybe it was because it's a summer film, and the Mexican beaches reminded me of beaches I've inhabited here, something about the way the light fell.

But there's a kind of critical point there too, reminding me of Craig's June rant on make, suggesting 'interesting stuff' about sex/sexism, gender and class. It was dirty, a fun kinda dirty, and yet the prevailing mood by the end of the film was sadness and nostalgia and denial. Because learning about sexuality when you're young is all about the learning of a code. For boys, this code is almost always about gaining sexual experience, like the boys' Charolastra manifesto, which will make no sense unless you've seen it but here's a few items: 'Wanking is good and must be done as often as possible.' 'Don't fuck your friends' girlfriends.' 'The truth is really amazing but totally unattainable.'

But if your sexuality spills out of the learnt code, implicitly or explicitly, there's a moment of shock and isolation and pleasure. Like the moment when the kids both realise they're really bad in the sack, and no-one had ever told them. Like the moment when Luisa says, 'Have you ever wiggled your finger... up someone's ass?' and they simultaneously inhale all shocked. And the moment when they... (Go and see the movie.)

But isn't that the way of the world? You get drunk, you fuck people you weren't supposed to and do things you never thought you'd do. In the morning you pretend it didn't happen. And so 'thinking-about-sex' becomes a constant recuperation of false innocence, heterosexuality, non-perviness, masculinity (or femininity): the continual remaking of a shell to protect the slipping, crazy desires/pleasures you and everyone else experiences, all the time, everywhere. The codes 'change', or maybe they were never really about 'getting experienced': maybe they were always about containing those experiences into something recuperable, containable, taxonomical. Which is perhaps why my hackles always rise when I hear someone protest disingenously that anything sexual is 'too much' -- too much information, too crazy, too weird, too slutty/pervy, too much sex with too many people. It's a microfascism; it's all about self-regulation, and hasn't the 'too much' always/already infected you anyhow? It's all a matter of border protection, baby, but you make the borders by pretending they existed in the first place.

And I'm not saying that Y Tu Mama supported this status quo; actually, I think the film worked worked in a subtle way to reveal it, show it for what it is. Amongst all those nice asides about class and ethnicity and Mexican politics, that great busted-up brown station wagon with the anarchist symbol on the window, tequila consumption and naked girly bottoms."

Um, discuss.
 
  
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