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X-Men: Did Scott and Emma do it?

El Gato Was Right: the t-shirt

14:24 / 07.04.02

This is an offshoot of X-Men: Year 2...

For the record, I think Scott and Emma hooked up back in the last Annual. If I remember correctly, there was Graduate-style panel in which Emma invited Scott in for champagne, and then -- cut away to something else. In a later issue (sorry, I'm too hung over to remember specifics) when Jean asks Scott about sleeping with Emma, there's some inference that -- ooh -- they NEVER SLEPT. Get it? Wink Wink, dear reader.

Trijhaos

14:33 / 07.04.02

The issue in which Jean asks Scott whether or not he slept with Emma was issue 118.

And actually Emma goes into Scott's room with the glasses and the bottle of champagne.

I'd like to think they didn't sleep together. I mean Scott is the ultimate boy scout. He wouldn't cheat on his wife, would he?

Batman

14:38 / 07.04.02

Who are these 'X-Men?' Do they live in Metropolis?

sleazenation

14:38 / 07.04.02

I imagine that scott probably poured his heart out about his mixed feelings towards jean while emma barely attempted to conceal her yawns, all the while making it quite plain that scott need simply to make a move and she would not be unwilling...

Utopia

17:06 / 07.04.02

even boy scouts fuck around sometimes. there's ao much that goes unsaid in this book, and i like to think that the scott/emma thing is one of them. the great thing about morrison's run on newXmen is that it gives the readers a chance to say "what if we could take this all the way. it's a shame it's so watered down (or is this his mainstream comics style? i've never read JLA).

Trijhaos

17:22 / 07.04.02

I think this is Morrison's mainstream style, but I'm not positive, I've only flipped through some of the JLA trades.

It is nice that so much is left unsaid. I, for one, don't miss all the thought bubbles, captions, and everything else that cluttered up the pages of previous runs on X-men.

I'd like to see why people assume they slept together. Sure there was the panel in the annual and Scott in 118 saying Emma kept him up all night, but I think that's streching it just a bit.

Utopia

18:04 / 07.04.02

it's 'cause we've got dirty, dirty minds

wow, i havn't even noticed the missing thought bubbles! i guess i've been away from the mainstream style of comics for some time!

troy

20:20 / 07.04.02

Hate to be a spoilsport here, but Grant (as well as editor Mark Powers) has stated on the record that Scott and Emma didn't do it in the aforementioned annual. So the question isn't "Did they do it?" The question is "Will they do it?"

Two comments about Grant's mainstream writing. On the one hand, I like it a helluva lot more than the work of previous X-men writers. On the other hand, I'm expecting "The Fifth" to blow his X-men work right out of the water (which, when you think about it, is as it should be).

troy

20:21 / 07.04.02

Er, that should be "The FILTH," not "The Fifth." Sleep take me now.

Utopia

20:37 / 07.04.02

i see mewXmen to be a sort of "holdover" until the filth and planetary 16 arrive...annny day now.

troy

21:11 / 07.04.02

Utopia, you took the words right outta my mouth.

Tamayyurt

04:41 / 08.04.02

Planetary 16? HAH, that's just a myth.

No star here laces

12:23 / 08.04.02

Mmmm. I actually think Xmen could go down in history as his best work, in some ways. The constraints of mainstream publishing have given it a tightness and polish that a lot of his work lacks. Plus the art now carries far more of his inventiveness - so much more interesting stuff goes down between panels in Xmen than ever happened in the Invisibles - Xmen is almost more of a comic per se than his usual work. I think it's a very subtle work, and a fantastic marriage of visual and textual artistry.

Except when Kordey fucks it all up, of course.

Matthew Fluxington

14:28 / 08.04.02

I sort of agree with Lyra - I think that Grant is at his best when he has to reign himself in and make things clear and concise - this works in favor of New X-Men, and it worked for Doom Patrol, and what I consider his masterwork, Kill Your Boyfriend.

The Invisibles is good, but it's a total mess. I prefer my Morrison 'tight', I guess...

quinine92001

20:29 / 08.04.02

I think that Emma and Scott participated in a mindscrew. No physically touching but a whole lot of fantasy roleplaying shit went on in the old Boy Scout's head.

troy

20:30 / 08.04.02

Interesting.

Regarding "tight" Morrision stuff, Zenith (what I've managed to get ahold of so far anyway), Doom Patrol, and Animal Man work better for me than the messier Invisibles. On the other hand, JLA, Marvel Boy, FF1234, and X-Men don't really float my boat. Parts of them are brilliant (I love how Morrison skipped over Cassandra's takeover of the Shi'ar empire), but overall they fall flat for me. I suppose X-Men's the best of this lot, but it still doesn't hold a candle to Doom Patrol, as far as I'm concerned. Apples and oranges in a lot of ways, though, so I may just be stating my preference for oranges over apples.

On the other hand, I love the messy Flex. Or maybe Flex isn't messy at all, just tight in a messy kind of way.

Hmm, we're not really talking about Scott and Emma now, are we? Any predictions as to when/if/how/where they'll do the horizontal mombo? I prefer they'll do it with Colonel Mustard in the study with a candlestick.

troy

20:33 / 08.04.02

Predict, dammit, preDICT! Not preFER. Believe me, I'd prefer it if Mustard kept himself out of the affair entirely.

troy

20:45 / 08.04.02

By the way, Quinine, I like the mindscrew theory. I like it a lot. You think it'll get physical, though? And do you think Jean would still consider that cheating?

Utopia

00:34 / 11.04.02

[dirty dirty thread rot]

yes. the world needs mindscrewing. i need mindscrewing. would anyone like to mindscrew me? the doors are open. if i feel...funny later on, thank you.

[/dirty dirty thread rot]

glassonion

10:35 / 11.04.02

o really, no-one still cares about planetary do they? that idea's got 'fin de siecle' written all over it and Wellie should go back to doing more speed so his substandard cyberpuke rubbish can be done on time. Planetary had a very good chance with me, but that was after all, three years and four issues ago. cassady's doing cap-am now, and if there was ever an artist who couldn't fir two books a nonth into his schedule...

glassonion

10:36 / 11.04.02

what kind of post? do you want me to swear more?

Tom Coates

11:22 / 11.04.02

I miss Planetary. It had zeitgeist defining potential.

troy

17:01 / 11.04.02

Agreed. Due in large part to its meta-fictional musings, I found Planetary more interesting than most, if not all, of Ellis' other work. As for Transmet, "substandard cyberpuke rubbish" may be a little harsh, but I concur that, for me anyway, it didn't hold a candle to Planetary. And by the by, I thought Planetary kicked ass on X-Files too.

yawn - thing's buddy

19:17 / 11.04.02

no.

planetary is tired, hum-drum, drawn out shite.

cumon. I've never understood the praise.

Early trans was indeed pale cyperpuke, but was probably the better of ellis' stuff. Now, I imagine its just crap.

He talks a good game, does that fat bearded crunt, but he sure doesn't write it...

Ganesh

19:25 / 11.04.02

Hmm. Suspect you may soon have some fat bearded hatemail to add to your collection, yawn...

that'd be nice.

Warren Ellis has a dust allergy.

troy

17:17 / 12.04.02

I agree that Planetary is over-hyped and overpraised, but I still miss it. I admit that entire issues fell flat for my because I had no fondness for the genre being examined, but I enjoyed other issues greatly. I loved seeing the Constantine avatar change into the Spider avatar. (And by the way, saying Planetary kicks ass on X-Files isn't exactly high praise coming from me, as I've never liked X-Files - though the recent episode with Burt Reynolds was fun).

But the big question is, will Ellis and Emma do it?

troy

21:18 / 12.04.02

Or will Ellis just screw his fans instead? (after, of course, talking a really good game).

Utopia

23:37 / 12.04.02

posted by yawn:
planetary is tired, hum-drum, drawn out shite.

yeah, and x-men is fresh as a newborn's ass, isn't it?

i mean, it's fun seeing what morrison is doing with the characters, but does anybody really give a shit if scott and jean renew their vows, fuck like dirty animals or kill each other with blunt rusty objects? (heh, i'd like to see those last two though.)

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