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Israeli Refusniks

 
 
Big Furry Bear
12:05 / 05.04.02
People might be interested in this site set up by Israeli refuseniks, that is reservists in the Israeli Army who have refused to fight in the occupied territories. 21 conscientious objectors are in jail so far for refusing to serve.

Courage to Refuse

(Hope that html works)
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:43 / 05.04.02
Yes, I'd seen a little (and I stress that "little") in the press (mostly just a couple of lines in the Guardian)- funny how they don't get much coverage, eh?
 
 
Big Furry Bear
12:51 / 05.04.02
Absolutely.

As this article on their site argues it's incredibly important because their (very brave) refusal to serve absolutely undermines the authority of the Israeli army and government to carry out their policy especially if the momentum grows.

The press repoprting generally seems to have been shockingly one-sided here in the UK with no Israelis that I have seen interviewed condemning Sharon's policy.

It is really important to show that by no means all of the Israeli people support Sharon's policy.
 
 
Lurid Archive
03:34 / 06.04.02
I stumbled on this a little while ago in a Guardian article. I did start a thread on it, but nothing was really said, so no real point linking to it.

I took some real hope in thinking about these protesting soldiers. After all, they are patriots who can't be accused of being self hating Jews. The recent events have made me think that I was being over optimistic.

As for press coverage. I may have this wrong but I think that until recently these refusniks haven't been giving interviews to the foreign press. I know that this has now changed since I saw a report about these guys, with interviews, on Channel 4 news recently.

I don't read a wide selection of papers (I know I should) so I'm not sure about the pro-Israeli bias. A random sample suggests it is predictably present. The exception in the main stream is, of course,
the Guardian. If anything, they can be a little pro palestinian in their emphasis if not their articles.
 
 
seamonkey
16:16 / 06.04.02
Anyone catch Bill Moyer's "Now" on PBS the other day? They did a segment featuring interviews with the refuseniks that was very well done. The soldiers explained how they felt manipulated and used as an extension of settler policies. Apparently their numbers are growing, and about a dozen of them have been jailed thus far. Also, there was a segment on the settlers themselves; most of them are orthodox Jews from the US who emigrated under Israel's "Law of Return" that grants automatic citizenship to anyone who is Jewish. Also, the Israeli govt.grants massive housing subsidies to the settlers as a form of encouragement, land can thus be bought and built on on the west bank for a pittance. Many of the larger settlements are right between two major Palestinian areas, cutting them off from each other. The way the settlers talk of their right to inhabit the land there is truly stomache-churning, every thread of conversation winds up inevitably back at the bible as the sole reason for their right to maintain a "manifest destiny" style approach to what is effectively colonization. The occupied territories were originally captured in '67 to be used by the Israelis as "bargaining chips", the settlers movement came later with the full backing of many in both the orthodox Jewish communities and the Israeli right-wing, which only further complicated an already fucked-up situation. The settlers may have to be removed by force one day, if not by the Israelis then by an international peace-keeping force, either that or the Palestinians will do it simply by population growth. Apparently the Palestinians have a much higher birth rate than the Israelis, and will outnumber them 2:1 by 2010. As one of the refuseniks put it: "If people think things are bad now, imagine how they will be in ten years...the Israelis in the govt. will shake their heads and say, what were we thinking?"
 
  
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