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alas
02:30 / 04.04.02
this morning the question of whether "fetus" and "fetish" share a common root occured to me.

i haven't bothered to look it up, but I think, personally, that anti-abortionists fetishize the human fetus.

which potentially explains a lot. i respect fetishes.

mine? well, fountain pens. ooh.
yours?
 
 
Margin Walker
04:54 / 04.04.02
I know it's hard to believe that nobody talks about fetishes on the internet, but....

The "What's Your Kink?" Thread
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
06:32 / 04.04.02
Well, no, they don't. Fetus (or foetus) is latin, meaning "child, offspring" or similar, whereas fetish, IIRC, is from the Portugese feiticio (fr. "fetiche"), meaning a charm or magic item.

As for mine - actually, fountaion pens are good. But I'd probably want to extend it to stationery in general.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
07:53 / 04.04.02
stationery is one of mine. but pales in comparison with timetables and bus maps - nothing compares to the thomas cook european rail timetable.

and i thought anti-abortionists mostly hated people fucking for fun.
 
 
Sax
07:56 / 04.04.02
It's a known fact that anti-abortionists can't get laid.

I'm more of a magic marker man, myself.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
08:06 / 04.04.02
Glass marbles, among other things.
 
 
Cavatina
08:17 / 04.04.02
Yes - the French with an acute over the first 'e'. Haus, there's a link to the Latin, 'factitius' (factitious) as well, according to the OED.

It's interesting, isn't it, how the word has become inflected differently in different discourses: from the early, anthropological meaning of an inanimate object regarded with dread, or worshipped as having having magical powers, or as being animated by a spirit, to the everyday figurative meaning of something irrationally reverenced, the psychoanalytic (Freudian) meaning of a security prop (disguising the actuality of a lack), and the Marxist meaning of a commodity that supplies a human want.

As for what's my fetish (which I don't equate with 'kink'), I'm not really sure. I've kept a couple of my father's old fountain pens, but very rarely use them. And I do really do like fresh stationery. But... books, perhaps. And candles. But not bells.
 
 
m. anthony bro
23:15 / 04.04.02
left handed people give me the horn.
and, stainless steel, except cutlery.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:18 / 04.04.02
Stationery? Compasses. Definitely compasses. Just cos.
 
 
Persephone
23:29 / 04.04.02
I would have a fetish for fountain pens, if I weren't in the grip of my fetish for the one fountain pen that I own & use.

I am otherwise obsessed with notebooks. I have lots more than one of those. And now I must go offline lest I tell you about all of them & their lovely features.
 
 
Mazarine
01:01 / 05.04.02
I have a fetish for the better drawn webcomics.
 
 
Utopia
02:29 / 05.04.02
ooh, lets all go into staples together and get off on the smell of paper!

we're all crazy, but in a good way.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
06:28 / 05.04.02
Cav - "facticius", akcherley.
 
 
Sax
06:32 / 05.04.02
I have a green Stabilo Boss Original highlighter pen on my desk at work. If I hold it in my left hand and twist the top ever so slightly with my thumb and forefinger, it makes a highly satisfying clicking noise.

I'm doing it right now.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
06:45 / 05.04.02
I like scraping the side of a biro rapidly back and forth across the front of my desk so it makes a noise like the fairground organ-y bit at the beginning of Nick Cave's "Curse of Millhaven".
 
 
that
10:34 / 05.04.02
I love notebooks also. Notebooks are goooooood. I have gone on at length about notebooks in an earlier thread, so will not do so again now, but I thought this was an appropriate thread in which to lose my new Barbelith virginity. I seem to be developing a little bit of a bag fetish too, but I can control it... and I am ve-ery picky.
 
 
Cavatina
11:03 / 05.04.02
[threadrot] Not according to my OED, Haus. You may well be right, of course. But proof, man ... I want proof. Your source?

(P.S. Have to say I remain interested in your many & varied appellations. But don't you think 'where first we met' would sound better than 'where we first met'?). [/threadrot]
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:15 / 05.04.02
Source: Lewis and Short, a Latin Dictionary. Big black hardback thing. Fabric covers. Factitius is a variant of facticius, but I believe from memory that facticius is (a) the root usage and (b) the more likely origin of "fetish", also variantly spelled "fetich" (a connection w/ the gaelic "fetch"?).

I see your point about "the Haus when first we met" - it is more mellifluous - but it has a kind of c19th feel about it - with your own connection to the Gothic, I can see the appeal. I was aiming more for a Stephin Merrit vibe.
 
 
Cavatina
11:24 / 05.04.02
Haus, ta - interesting.

And, so be it.
 
 
Persephone
12:17 / 05.04.02
A fetish isn't the same as a kink, right? Not to sound boring, but I didn't feel like I had anything to contribute to the kinks thread. I have lots and lots of fetishes, though.

Plus I get to be a fetish sometimes, that's so fun!

Soooo, Cholister... about those bags... paper bags or handbags? Do you like boxes as well? I love boxes...
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
12:19 / 05.04.02
Developer, gotta love the smell of developer.
 
 
bitchiekittie
12:38 / 05.04.02
the blindness of the darkroom: relying on your fingertips, quick with experience, your ears, adept over time
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
12:41 / 05.04.02
That's obscene.......









And completely delightful in the erotic sense of the word.
 
 
bitchiekittie
12:45 / 05.04.02
well, you like developer. whats more perverse than that?


...not that Im knocking it, mind you.
 
 
angel
14:18 / 05.04.02
Persephone: Do you like boxes as well? I love boxes...

Oooooooooooooooooh! Boxes!!!! [shiver and shudder]

Love boxes. All kinds. Big ones, little ones, paper, wood, metal, woven, plastic - well, OK not so much plastic ones - I just have to have and open them all. --- I can control it, no really ---

It's that and locked/closed doors - they drive me nuts. Always got to know what's going on behind the door. It's gonna get me in trouble one day.

Oh yeah, old wood and wrought iron, especially in doors and boxes ...

Aaaaaaah!
 
 
alas
14:21 / 05.04.02
i also remember fondly the "what's yr kink" thread, but feel too that fetishes is not the same as a kink--

and i'm also of the office supplies generally fetish.

thanks, haus, for the etymological clarification. i still, however, think that antiabortionists carry western commodity culture's fetishization of "childhood innocence" (Peanuts cartoon characters, precious moments figurines, etc.) to it's absurd conclusion . . .

(but i also have a "head shop" fetish . . . is it possible to have a virtual fetish? or is that an oxymoron?)
 
 
Utopia
15:04 / 05.04.02
oh yeah, i always wish that i'd of had sex in the darkroom. anybody have access to one at the moment? could be fun...

i now return you from this fucked up personal ad to your regularly sceduled discussion.
 
 
Strange Machine Vs The Virus with Shoes
15:12 / 05.04.02
Would the sound of breaking glass classify as a fetish? Or even the whole process of glass being broken/smashed? Or does this come under thrill?
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
15:21 / 05.04.02
If it involves your boat and the floating there of, go for it.
 
 
grant
15:34 / 05.04.02
Persephone: Plus I get to be a fetish sometimes, that's so fun!


I'm getting this really creepy image of you turning into a small, angry-faced, hand-carved wooden doll with animal hair sticking out of it, cowrie shells for eyes, and teeth made from broken shells.

 
 
grant
15:39 / 05.04.02
Also, according to this page, "fetish" comes from "facere" - to make, or to perform (like manufacture), while "fetus" comes from "fe-" - to bear, or to suck.
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
18:21 / 05.04.02
The smell of mimeographed paper from grade three.
Proper licorice.
Good shoes.
Fountain pens.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
19:13 / 05.04.02
gawd. so many. for starters...

pens, letter-writing sets (ie lovely quality envelopes and paper, ideally with own address/motif... )

block-coloured linen. red/black/white/green. oh yes.

interior decor. stuff in general actually.

power tools. hammer drills/jigsaws in particular.

ok. going home to drool now.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
19:56 / 05.04.02
Hammer drills?
 
 
Cherry Bomb
19:57 / 05.04.02
I know a few people with fully stocked toolkits, ya know...
 
  

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