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Goodness Gracious Meme
06:36 / 03.04.02
Unimpressively enough, seeing 24Hour Party People (a film that *very* selectively tells the 'story' behind Factory Records/the Hacienda/the 'Madchester' music scene, covering a period from 1979ish-1988) got me thinking about this.

What interested me is that it's probably one of the only (British - I imagine that American culture does this more often, on no basis whatsoever. what about elsewhere?) films I've seen that deals with the life stories of a scene in which a lot of the people are still living, and in which selecting for the purpose of shaping a narrative therefore has a different sort of contentiousness to it.

In the eg of 24HPP, I'm thinking especially of the chronicling of various deaths, and the retelling (where it's done at all) of the impact on surviving members of a scene, especially in the case of Ian Curtis (lead singer of a Joy Division, who committed suicide after a reputed long history of depression).

Got me to thinking about what it means to represent these events on film when most of the protagonists are still alive, still living their own version. (and is some cases in 24HPP, appear in the film in various cameos) Not just thinking about the possibility for offence, but also about how this affects the storytelling process, and our response to it.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
06:40 / 03.04.02
It's just occurred to me that I think there's something that distinguishes this storytelling/narrative selection on film from doing it via a written biography. (eg in the music biog genre, written biogs of living/barely cold subjects are pretty common)

Am I just blathering?
 
 
gozer the destructor
08:11 / 03.04.02
Mmmmm...it just reminds me of the Doors film (or more accurately the mystical-wank-biopic of Jim Morrison) and the cameos in that of John Densmore as a roadie, Patricia Keneally as the witch who marries Jim and Pat and also Paul Rothchild as a hmmmmm not sure.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
17:48 / 03.04.02
and the particularlly weird cameo in Basketball Diaries when Jim Carrol the real person plays a junkie talking to Jim Carrol the character play by dicaprio. extremely peculiar moment that i would highly rate for its metafictive transcedence and emotional value.
 
 
Jack Fear
18:50 / 03.04.02
Well, how do we define "recent"?
And how do we define "life stories"?

See, I perceive a division here between the stories of private people and pursuits and those of public people and pursuits.

54, about the famous disco, seems to me to be more... hmm.. "intrusive" than, say, Black Hawk Down--because it's primarily about private pursuits: the fighters in Mogadishu (probably like soldiers on any side at any time) were presumably more aware of their status as participants in capital-H History than the scenesters at Studio 54.

As regards bios of artists and musicians; they too are "participants in history." They're even treated as such by US law: it's very difficult for a celebrity to sue the press for invasion of privacy, the idea being that if an individual is a "public figure" then the public's right to know overrides the individual's right to privacy.

Historicals or memoirs of crime and/or experiences in the legal system (The Hurricane, about Ruben Carter: Let Him Have It, about Bentley and Craig) kind of straddle the line: private individuals become public figures through notoriety.

Case in point, one where the lines blur: one of the girls in the case on which Heavenly Creatures was based was given a new identity and grew up to be the mystery writer Anne Perry, who enjoys a thriving career here in the States. She was eventually "outed" as being the former Juliet Hulme--before or after the film's release, I'm not sure. But had Juliet Hulme not ended up a best-selling author--and an author of crime books, at that!--her anonymity might never have been compromised in that way; the rules for "celebrities" are different.
 
 
grant
19:46 / 03.04.02
The real Chuck Yeager swept the bar the fake Chuck Yeager drank in in "The Right Stuff."
He parlayed that into ad spots for Coke and Duracell, I think.
Of course, "The Right Stuff" was sort of about people and sort of about humanity reaching into space, so it might not be the kind of thing you're talking about. Celebrities from the get-go.
I wonder if people who had been to the real bar and then, years later, saw the movie occasionally remember scenes from the movie and think it was from the real bar. Because memories and movies seem to be similarly constructed.
 
  
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