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Just got this- haven't had a chance to read it yet- I'm about to go to work-
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I've been away from email for 5 days, so forgive the backlog of Sarah's
reports presented here.
Again, I emphasise her requests for this stuff to be forwarded, and for
people to get media and political people informed. The influence of
politicians and mass media is making a perceptible positive difference in
Palestine.
And I'd also point everyone towards the bit where shre says that the
Independent Media Center is running up massive bills and needs cash. They
don't take commercial sponsorship, it *all* comes from donations.
A couple of days ago a friend of my brother's complained that ITV's Queen
Mam coverage was excessive and they should be covering Palestine more. He
was told that they had to big up the Queen Mam to ensure maximum daytime
advertising revenue for the day of her funeral.
Those of us who want our news dictated by importance rather than corporate
commercials, and who favour justice and compassion over deference to
obsolete institiutions, need to ensure we keep independent media channels
open.
Donations can be made to Indymedia at http://jerusalem.indymedia.org .
Scroll down to the bottom to see where to do. The page also has places we
can bombard with emails, faxes, etc.
To those who've asked me to pass on good wishes to the peace activists in
Palestine, be assured I have done, several times.
live your love,
Merrick xx
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Wed, 03 Apr 2002 16:16:19
greetings again from the IMC,
things here are shifting again slightly, but not enough. there are still
large numbers of wounded in manger square in the centre of the old city,and
many dead lying in the streets or in houses fromwhich they cannot be removed
[update this second; the family who had 2 members killed by a tank shell
have managed to get them out]. the mosque,in which people were hiding, was
shelled by tanks, and there are 150-200 holed up in the church of the
nativity; we've just spoken to one of them and no medics have been allowed
through but nuns have been attending the injured. injured in deheishe
refugee camp have also been denied access to hospital,and we've just watched
from our window as israeli troops surrounded and searched a red crescent
ambulance. another ambulance was crushed by a tank this morning in beit
jala. a group of internationals attempted to accompany an ambulanceto manger
square to get humanitarian aid to those trapped, but they were fired on;
apparently the israelis had chosen (without telling anyone) that they would
use their clocks and not palestinian time to time the curfew and thus
decided to shoot at people as soon as.
a number of british nationals are being evacuated at the moment, including
kunle whose father died unexpectedly and who has been denied exit by the
israelis for 2 days despite strong protests from the british government and
consulate.
in ramallah, a group of 2,000 israelis (gush shalom) and arab israelis
attempting to deliver food and medical supplies were stopped and heavily
teargassed. one truck of aid was allowed through but the soldiers then
emptied it and stamped on the medical supplies, leaving the food on the
ground.
there has also been shooting at the doors of the building that arafat and
the internationals etc aretrapped in in arafat's compound. arafat's personal
medicine in running out and there are fears for him.
in truth,
sarah
from the indymedia centre, bab al-zqaq, besieged bethlehem
Wed, 03 Apr 2002 19:08:12
hey all,
thanks for the many messages of support i/we have had. just another update:
1) can people try to get out to the press that the 200 people in the
nativity church are NOT all gunmen; the majority are families from the
locality who initially took refuge in the mosque untilit was destroyed. many
civilians have been killed in the locality and most houses are being denied
medical access - i may have mentioned that a tank was crushed here
earlier,and the idf are presently surrounding a medical team in beit sahour.
there are people taking refuge in many of the other churches as well. THIS
MISINFORMATION IS INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS AND NEEDS TO BE COUNTERACTED AS SOON
AS POSSIBLE.
2) we are presently trying to arrange the presence of internationals in
ambulances here tonight to try and protect the medical teams.
3) there is heavy gunfire close by us at the moment, and flares have been
shot over azza refugee camp; this is usually a precursor to attack, but we
think at the moment that it is the tall buildings (good sniper posts) that
the israelis are after.there is fairly heavy gunfightsand periodic shelling
from not far off.and bethlehem university - about 500 yds away - has been
occupied, with a number of monks there being searched and assaulted and one
having to intervene in order to prevent the shooting of a civilian in a
nearby home.
4) there is also substantial tank movement in the direction of deheishe
refugee camp.god help them, there are already a number of wounded there
being denied access to medical care.
5) on a lighter note,spirits here in the IMC are up,since we had a food
delivery and are aware that there is another one awaiting us from the
british embassy (the dogfood was starting to look appealing, we were that
low while the curfew was 24 hour. i'm also smoking like a chimney, except
when we ran out...). they came to evacuate a number of foreign nationals,
including kunle, who had been prevented from leaving for several days after
the news of his father's death. for obvious reasons,some of the wounded
internationals from the demo on monday also wanted to leave, although the
worst injured, an australian womam with what the operating doctor believes
was a direct gunshot wound to the stomach, cannot be moved at present. in
the imc we are sleeping in shifts but still have electricity and therefore
heat - it's bitter here - and we also have Indymedia Intifada, the rescued
palestinian puppy, to cheer us up/pee on the floor. it's kind of surreal
crawling round the kitchen floor to avoid sniper sights in order to prepare
puppy food!
6) whilst my political principles militate against it, getting in touch with
governments and stuff really is important at the moment, as it is really one
of the few things that can save people here. demos etc aregreat as pressure
too,but in the end we need the US government to follow the lead of the EU in
demanding instant withdrawal. Belgium and Egypt have cut diplomatic ties,and
we need this to happen from other regimes too.
love to you all. sorry i can't reply to personal mails but obviously with
our web connection periodically crashing (matt! come and help us here!) and
the need to get stuff on http://jerusalem.indymedia.org we have really
limited time.
sarah xxx
from the centre of bethlehem under attack...
Thu, 04 Apr 2002 07:09:59
hey all,
2 main things;
1) arafat's medicine is running low. medically very serious. we have a new
line into the building, though, which is good because the israelis have
jammers on some of the mobiles there.they have very, very little water and
very little food left in there, and the idf are still not letting
humanitarian aid through.
2) the family of a volunteer here were stopped in an ambulance last night.
a wounded man in the ambulance was arrested and the family interrogated,
including violence to one of the men, for 2 hours; the actual patient was 3
years old. the most disturbing thing, though, was that the commanding
officer of the troops doing this told the family that they would not be
allowed anywhere until "everyone in the nativity church is dead." there are
about 200 people in there, including some freedom fighters but mainly
families who fled there and to the mosque when homes in the area were
shelled, and then the mosque was also shelled beyond being useful as a
refuge. the idf are claiming publically that it is all gunmen there, and we
are terrified that this is idf preparation to massacre everyone in there.
they have denied medical care to the many wounded in there for 2 days now,
and we have reports that a number of people have bled to death in that time.
an ambulance was crushed by a tank yesterday morning trying to reach them,
but some bodies and a few wounded have been removed, but some of the wounded
have been arrested on the way out.
there have been gunbattles and heavy tank movement all night here, but we
have no reports yet of what this signifies; ayda camp have reported that the
night was ok, but we are worried about deheishe camp, since we saw large
earthmover type vehicles and many tanks heading up there midnightish. we
also had a false alarm that someone was trying to batter our downstairs door
down...but just a false alarm. we're quite surprised that they haven't taken
us out yet, since we seem to be being so successful in getting info out -
we've been doing interviews with press everywhere from the us, uk, germany,
chile, mexico, spain, japan, australia etc etc etc...we had an unconfirmed
report last night that the director of bethlehem tv, in our building, was
arrested last night, and we've not been able to contact him since. we are
probably going to try and leave for a little later to try to get some
ambulances up to manger square; internationals tried yesterday but got shot
at when the idf decided to stop the curfew lift on their time not ours. and
azza camp, which was shelled during the night, including the building some
of the internationals were in, have reported seeing an ambulance heading for
the old city about 2 hours ago. a couple of minutes later there was heavy
gunfire and the ambulance has not been seen returning. and news just
in...there's about 40 journos waiting to come up to manger sqaure with
us...i wanna be exploited...
if there is any fundraising anyone can do running the press ops here is
costing a bomb; there are details of how to donate on
http://jerusalem.indymedia.org.
take care all.
love,
sarah
from the centre of besieged bethlehem
Thu, 04 Apr 2002 08:55:17
hey,
we're trying to sort ambulances to get up to manger square to deal with the
humanitarian disaster there at the moment, but the organisations won't
co-ordinate with us and the medical organisations won't let ambulances out
while that is the case, as one was crushed yesterday by a tank and several
crews have been arrested. we will probably form a group of internationals to
carry water, food and if possible medical supplies up there instead. there
are a number of press prepared to come with us. we are very concerned about
the medical conditions of people who have been trapped up there bleeding for
2 days and have no food and water. we are also concerned about the idf's
refusal to let anyone witness whatever it is they are perpetrating up there,
which we know has already included widespread killing and the shelling of
homes.
in peace, inshallah,
sarah
as the tanks roll by...
Fri, 05 Apr 2002 04:34:28
hello all,
greetings from the cold quiet of the bethlehem morning. well, quiet if it
wasn't for the tanks trundling past. i hate the noise of them; so heavy and
destructive and intrusive. the damage they've done up in the old city is
horrendous, destroying much of the renovation that was done for the
millenium, smashing road surfaces, water pipes and sewage conduits and
generally wreaking infrastructural havoc as well as the damage to life and
limb.
yesterday was pretty draining - the feeling of our own impotence as we spoke
to people inside the church of the nativity. we now have confirmation that
there are about 260 people in there, largely families from the surrounding
streets who feld when their homes were shelled, or fled again from the
mosque when it was destroyed. at least 30 are wounded, some seriously, and
they have been denied proper medical care for 3 days now. the israelis have
let some ambulances up there, but not with deliveries of medical supplies,
and they have arrested some people from the backs of ambulances once they
were moved. the idf started shooting at the church yesterday morning, and
then shelled it around lunchtime on the milk grotto street wall, to the
right of the church. luckily those great fat medieval walls are still
holding strong, but all the windows are gone and they were still shooting at
the building last night. this despite ongoing denials on idf radio that the
church was under attack at all, although these were apparently made to look
pretty foolish by an announcement from ariel sharon that the (none-existent)
attack would stop...
we also got quite a lot of calls from rightist israelis hoping that the
idf's aim would improve and we'd die...
dad tells me that the internationals who flew back yesterday to britain were
abused on the plane by israelis and had to be escorted away by police.
someone give them big, big hugs for me and tell them i weep for them...
we also got some rather sinister messages yesterday, if laughable. the
americans in ayda camp were warned by their consulate that the israeli
border guards had threatened to dump them in the nativity church to get
shelled. the americans here, meanwhile, were given a similar warning but
that it would be palestinians who would drag them in as hostages. us brits,
meanwhile, got a message last night that because of 'rising sentiment'
against foreigners here amongst palestinians (which is in itself a rubbish
claim) we were 'strongly advised' to leave. we are taking this with a
massive pinch of salt, having met nothing but kindness, respect and
appreciation of our presence from every palestinian we've met. but it is
disturbing in that we are reading these as veiled threats from the israeli
army and government, or at least attempts from them to get themselves off
the hook should they 'accidentally' harm us. on a personal level, if
anything bad does happen to me here, i want all my loved ones to utterly
assume israeli responsibility. they are the only forces from whom we have
met aggression and harm, despite the workings of their propaganda machine.a
full formal statement from the internationals will be released by the
internationals here later today.
we have also had news from ayda refugee camp here that food is running low,
and we are trying to set up the conditions for an aid convoy, possibly
similar (if more successful, hopefully) than the one which attempted to
reach ramallah on wednesday but was trashed by the idf. please pass this
plea on to christian aid, war on want etc, and we'll be on to them, as well
as to gush shalom, rabbis for humsn rights etc from this end.
terrible news from nablus, where there are 4-500 tanks. the refugee camps
and university have been occupied, with systematic demolition of houses,
leaving families homeless in the bitter cold, wet weather we have here at
the moment (so much for my tan ambitions...). a house was also destroyed by
a helicopter gunship, leaving 2 women in the rubble, status unknown. the idf
also busted into an old people's home - obviously a haven for terrorists...
we got news from deheishe refugee camp yesterday that another woman had lost
her baby after being denied access to specialist medical care after labour
complications. and the UN managed to set up a brief clinic and treated 3
boys under 15 for gunshot wounds.
in ramallah, the family of a 21 year old palestinian woman with a US
passport have described how she was shot dead as she sat with her 9-month
old baby on her lap in a car, fleeing to safety after she heard gunshots.
she was one of the 30-odd who had to be buried in a mass grave in the
carpark of ramallah hospital. the idf have put out a thoroughly sick press
release claiming that the digging of this mass grave was simply propaganda
by the palestinians, who had ample time to bury their dead properly in the
one or two-hour curfew lifts granted them.
drained, angry and sad, but staying here...
love,
sarah
the contact numbers for the independent media centre are:
00 972 22777558
00 972 55840767
00 972 67435459
00 972 67270398
we are available 24 hours for interview and comment.
[Pass these numbers on to any and all media contacts]
Fri, 05 Apr 2002 05:31:28
hello again,
just an update of stuff from during the night.
9 men were killed in the nativity church during the night, a report
confirmed by those inside the building. they were shot through the doors
which have been blown off the back of the church. worry increases for the
rest of those inside - so much for a halt to the attack.
apache helicopters (yes, american ones) have killed many while firing on
balata refugee camp.
the governor of nablus (i met him in december) has had his home taken over
by troops who have destroyed the inside.
red crescent ambulances have been allowed to deliver some food and water but
no medical aid to arafat's compound. the president is on the verge of
running out of vital personal medication.
a number of internationals, including a french man suffering heart attack
symptoms, left the presidential compound last night with alleged safe
passage from the idf. neither they nor their red cross drivers had been
heard from since, as of the early hours of this morning, around 10 hours
after they left on the journey to qalandia checkpoint which, even under
present conditions, should only take about an hour.
in atara, a village near bir zeit university, an old man trying to reach
hospital was stopped in the street by israeli forces and died in the street.
the fact that this place is so damn beautiful just makes this all the
harder; looking out of the window in the early morning light (now it's
stopped chucking it down) over the white stone houses of bethlehem and the
olive groves, the sounds of tanks are all the more grating...
to my friends and especially family; please be careful, especially mum; adam
shapiro's parents in new york have been driven from their home by death
threats from right wing zionists. and the brits on the plane home last night
were 'abused' by israelis with them and had to be escorted from the airport
by police. i don't want my insane actions to rebound on you guys! i love you
too much.
holding on,
sarah
Sun, 07 Apr 2002 09:26:33
hey all,
greetings again from the increasingly hellish place that is the west bank.
reports out of jenin are truly appalling; houses being bulldozed on top of
their occupants and teargas being dropped by helicopter onto the refugee
camp whilst people flee their homes. A doctor in the main hospitalis using
the word massacre, which palestinians don't do lightly. and of course there
are not internationals in jenin or nablus, so everything that comes out of
there gets questioned by the press because it's not verified by the idf -
such sick logic.
here a bunch of us tried to get an ambulance up to the church of the
nativity where people are down to salt and water and have still not had
proper medical attention. we had a warning shot fired at us,and then our
hebrew speaker approached, but we were told we would under no circumstances
be allowed through. there have been lots of arrests here in house-to-house
searched this morning, and the army are doing shoot-to-kill curfew today, to
prevent the sunday morning christian march the church leaders called from
beit sahour and beit jala.
there are also tanks massing outside gaza, they had planes overhead last
night, and some areas have lost elecrticity, often a precursor to an attack.
and in the muqada they are dangerously low on food and water, and conditions
are becoming increasingly insanitory.
we are trying to get food and medicine out to people in the bethlehem area,
but it is difficult because of the curfew. the humanitarian aid community
need to address this now.
in the imc, we are going a bit mad but indy the puppy keeps our spirits up;
he has just learned to bark and is using his new-found skill assiduously.
take care, all.
love,
sarah
Sun, 07 Apr 2002 10:30:38
hey again,
the other thing i forgot to say - and it needs saying - is that in jenin
yesterday the idf announced an end to the curfew so that people could come
and get water,and a loadof women and old men came out to do so. they were
detained and strapped to the front of tanks as shields, after which the
tanks recommenced bombarding the very homes of the people tied to them.
outside ramallah, palestinian man, the brother-in-law of one of our contacts
here,was one of several hundred men held in a dried-up sewage pit overnight,
in driving rain. when someone complained of the treatment to which they were
being subjected, he was told by the idf commander that the difference
between them and him was that he,the israeli, was a human being. from here,
it's very much looking like the opposite is true.
s xxx
Sun, 07 Apr 2002 11:04:37
just a little additional one to say that our isp is in nablus and has been
bombed, so we only have sporadic dialup connection, so don't worry if you
don't hear too much from me for abit.i shouldn't be on this at the mo...
if anyone needs statements from here,which can have names and phone numbers
here on them,for public meetings,local press etc etc etc, please feel free
to ring us. also, allegra pacheco, an israeli jewsih human rights lawyer, is
eminently availbale for interview over here. please pass it on.
and if anyone has fundraising sources, we really really need funds for geek
expenses at the imc becasue we're running up huge internetbills on the
accounts of sympathisers becasue of the bombed leaseline. call us here!
s xxx
imc numbers:
00972 2277 7558
00972 67270398
00972 55840767
00972 67435459
Mon, 08 Apr 2002 11:51:25
dear all,
got woken up after my first decent nights sleep here by the sound of machine
gun fire and a tank shell. still haven't verified where it came from, but
things have quietened down now. curfew has apparently been lifted until 5pm
today, although as with the other day we don't know if that's israeli 5pm or
palestinian, which effectively means losing an hour at the end in case it's
israeli 5pm and they start shooting at what you think is 4o'clock...georgie
rang the district command this morning to get curfew details and was told
that they wouldn't tell her them coz she might be a terrorist plotting
attacks...
there were press reports that the idf had gone into the nativity church this
morning; the truth of this seems to be that one shell was lobbed in and a
fire started, with one of the people trapped inside being shot dead whilst
trying to put the fire out. still no ambulances etc allowed up there, and
some of the people wounded have been there a week now. i spoke to a local
activist a few days ago who cried as he told me about how he was getting
phone calls from wounded friends inside and from a little girl whose father
is his friend and whom is in there. and now all their phone batteries have
run down so there is not even that cold comfort.
at least 100 people were arrested in the bethlehem area yesterday, inlcuding
a large number in beit sahour. one family had all 8 of their sons taken. in
beit sahour a number of houses were also destroyed, inlcuding that of the
family of one of the men from the town killed in a targeted assassination
last autumn. the arrested are being shipped down to a prison near hebron, or
held in the building which is arafat's residence when he's here. a group of
internationals in the street breaking curfew yesterday encountered a group
of lads who'd just been released and accompanied them to comparative safety,
as the idf often release people during curfew so that they can arrest them
again for breaking curfew...as we spoke to them, we also saw a troop carrier
loaded with young palestinian men driving past...a truly chilling sight,
given the possible fate that could be awaiting them. i spoke to a woman in
beit sahour this morning who also told me of how a tank sat outside her
house for the whole of yesterday, stopping every ambulance heading for the
clinic down the road (the one where i was treated in december) and holding
them for an hour each time, id'g the occupants and staff, and then doing the
same on way back up. one of the soldiers there also threatened her little
girl with a gun for looking out of the window one too many times...
a few of us after food yesterday were also stopped and held in the road for
about 20 minutes outside al-husayn hospital. we'd been given a large
quantity of food by the brothers at the university which the idf had left
behind! it seemed fitting that the ambulances at the hospital should get it
to distribute it to take round to camps, but apparently this made us
suspicious and we were held and id'd. the monks had their residence at the
uni invaded by idf with grappling hooks last week, and they left some other
paraphenalia as well as food - quikcuffs (apparently manufactured by R
Wolf), a helmet, a metal box with egg-holes for carrying grenades, and some
batteries, brand name SAFT. the monks also have a large rocket that went
through their library during the last incursion a couple of months ago. such
an obvious target, a bunch of brothers who teach english and hotel
management and history to teenagers...
still appalling reports coming out of jenin and nablus, with terrible loss
of life and fundamentally disgusting things being done to people. a group of
internationals are heading over there at the moment, and conveys are being
attempted in the next few days, especially for medical supplies.
can people ensure that it gets out that anyone planning to come should come
through jordan or egypt, not through ben gurion, where they will be turned
back by israeli efforts to ensure that their genocidal crimes are not
witnessed any more. once here, or even from abraod, people can ring any of
the number i sent out yesterday for the imc and we'll try and give updates
on where it is possible to get to and how.
take care, my loves,
sarah
Mon, 08 Apr 2002 22:50:35
hey all,
ok, lets try this again. i got kicked offline by one of the machistas trying
to backtrack on the extraordinary fuckup they just perpetrated on our other
laptop, but my first effort was shit anyway.
besides, i've just seen footage from jenin, of a woman and her kid both
sitting in hospital with their faces all mashed up, and of idf loudhailers
calling out all the men to who knows what fate - often this is the men
between about 14 and 45, to cover potential 'terrorists,' but by the look of
it they must have called up to 60, since some of them looked so old and
frail.
we had our first real curfew lift today; amazing to see how people appeared
so quickly in the streets, scurrying around in the sunshine to reach food,
their first access in days. although the idf did their thing from last week
again and called the lift off about an hour and a half before they'd
previously announced, and notified us by starting to shoot randomly. the
final clincher was an apc and a jeep stopping an ambulance in the street
outside our kitchen window and raking the ground around it with m16 fire,
and then at our building also...we've had rather a lot of that ever since
the fuckwits at independent media center israel phoned the idf and told them
our exact location, and the idf broadcast that on their radio station.
there've also been flares and machine gun fire this evening, and ground
activity around azza camp, which is worrying.
in the church of the nativity this morning the idf tried to get in by
chucking a shell in, which started a fire, and one of the trapped people was
killed by a sniper when he tried to put it out. however, the idf soldiers
whon tried to enter apparently sustained 4 casualties and lost 3 m16s to the
trapped palestinians - those that were armed had laid down their weapons on
the way in so apparently this has raised spirits somewhat, despite the fact
that they are now without food and there are worries that the idf will go in
tonight. this info came from our friendly bethlehem tv cameraman, khaled,
who comes to hang out with us in the evenings sometimes. he's a big, bluff
bear of a man who usually brings beer with him and who is incredibly brave -
or foolish - yesterday when we were being held in the street by soldiers he
had his camera right up the arse of an apc, whilst the international press
cowered round the ambulance. right now he and da boyz are discussing marx
and anarchism in arabic.
there have been lots of arrests here also, including one family who have had
all 8 of their sons taken.
for me, the curfew lift was pretty good, especially having the confidence to
walk somewhere by myself. i know it's so little compared with what every
palestinian here is dealing with, but it's been a bit tough being in this
office for over a week now, working, eating and sleeping in 5 rooms with at
least 4 other people at any one time, and i'v ehad maybe 7 hours outside of
here in all that time, so i'm going a little stir crazy.
'kate' [who was hospitalised with abdominal bullet wounds last week] herself
was, i think, released today, and was in pretty good spirits when i saw her
yesterday. she had an x-ray which confirms that she actually has 6 pieces of
bullet lodged inside her, and they ain't comin' out. it also confirms, i
think, that it was a direct hit and not just bounced shrapnel. fucking
bastards.
anyway, i guess i've been on here a while. take care, my dears, and see you
soon, insh'allah.
love,
sarah
Tue, 09 Apr 2002 08:56:04
dear all,
g vanished out of the office this morning and has just called me to say that
she's walking to beit sahour with a group of about 35 men who've just been
released from israeli custody; they've been held for a week, and during that
time have been beaten and tortured. a horrible fact which doesn't surprise
me but is so hideous in the confirmations. one of them estimates that there
are at least 1,000 being held in the presidential palace - a shockingly
large number; we knew of hundreds but not that many. there is speculation
that today will see more releases (though the curfew will not apparently be
lifted so it's very dangerous for them to be outside).
weird phone calls this morning; one would hope that mossad, with all their
funding and supposed expertise, could come up with some slightly more
sophisticated attempts at agents provocateurs. either that or we just have
an influx of nutters this morning. at least we haven't had a any rightist
zionist psychos for a day or so screaming at us that they hope the idf get
better aim with their tank shells...
a group of internationals have headed out to nablus to try and do what they
can there, and cnn have been asking us about a 'leftist demo' (god they are
so stupid and fossilised in their thinking and phraseology) at jenin. i hope
it's true, anyway.
to those of you doing actions and demos and letter writing and press work
and fundraising. you are all stars. if fundraising for imc isn't your thing,
physicians for human rights have a big appeal out for funds to try and get
medical aid into jenin and nablus, and god almighty do they need it.
it's beautiful out, if chillingly quiet, but even while the humans have to
cower in their homes the bethlehem bird and cat life continues its soap
opera convolutions...
sarah xxx
ps keep an eye on the jerusalem.indymedia.org website for updates, and
hopefully soon for some mp3s of 'sounds from the imc office.' |
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