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The power of celebrity

 
 
Horus lord of force and fire
22:28 / 28.03.02
Originally posted by nightnurse:

"A good friend of mine (a new age Christian) has a theory that when the apocalypse comes that the antichrist won't be someone in politics or the military but somebody famous, someone charasmatic and with lots of influence -- in other words, a celebrity.

We've had this conversation a couple of times and his answer, for who will be the antichrist, is always Tom Cruise. I say it's Michael Jackson."

Anyone else think a charismatic celebrity could take over the world?


What do you folks think?
 
 
Saint Keggers
23:48 / 28.03.02
Martha Stewart
or
Tom Woppat.
 
 
Utopia
02:15 / 29.03.02
just like old times...

i think jesus in his second coming is really the anti-christ. they always said it would be the person you least expect.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
03:37 / 29.03.02
I think there's a lot of confusion between the Beast and the Antichrist- as far as I remember, the Beast is the one who comes to power, the antichrist is a false prophet who comes before (ie antE-Christ)and confuses things.
But to stop being pedantic, I think it's Britney. Already she's started showing her grumpy side... and from what I hear, that movie's an abomination...
 
 
alas
05:52 / 29.03.02
an abdominal abomination, then?

(sorry about the threadrot, but I've always wanted to use those two words together.)
 
 
Trijhaos
12:18 / 29.03.02
A charismatic celebrity taking over the world? It would depend on the celebrity I suppose. The celebrity needs to be inspring and creative also. I mean charisma is great and all, but if all your speeches come out sounding like something from a movie, then you're not going to have very many followers.
 
 
Horus lord of force and fire
12:46 / 29.03.02
Tell that to the fuckers who love Titanic.
 
 
Trijhaos
12:55 / 29.03.02
People actually liked that movie? I never saw it. No point in seeing it really, as I already knew the ending. The boat sank. Ooooh....how surprising.

Actually, if one were serious about using a celebrity to take over the world, all the celebrity would necessarily need to be is a charismatic figurehead with no thought of their own. Yeeessss.....that's the way to do it. Get yourself a nice brainless ditz, tell him/her what to say and see what happens. You write the speeches, you get your pet celebrity to repeat them; instant success.
 
 
netbanshee
13:27 / 29.03.02
It has to be either Bob Hope or Dick Clark. Those two will never die and Dick Clark hasn't aged at all in the last thirty years...creepy...
 
 
Utopia
16:32 / 29.03.02
shows what you know trijhaos, that's not what happened at all
 
 
MJ-12
16:58 / 29.03.02
Actually Trijhaos, I'd expect that was the least predictable thing about the film.
 
 
alas
17:01 / 29.03.02
Actually, if one were serious about using a celebrity to take over the world, all the
celebrity would necessarily need to be is a charismatic figurehead with no thought of
their own. Yeeessss.....that's the way to do it. Get yourself a nice brainless ditz, tell
him/her what to say and see what happens. You write the speeches, you get your pet
celebrity to repeat them; instant success.

that would be ronald reagan, right?
 
 
Trijhaos
17:06 / 29.03.02
What hasn't happened at all? Using a celebrity as a figurehead that just spouts off what you want it to say?

Actually it has happened. Take a look at the Backstreet Boys or N'Sync. Few, if any, of there songs were written by them. They don't play their own instruments. So what makes them so successful? Good-looks and charisma. They didn't get where they are now because they're smart; they are in their current position because their girly little man-boy faces make the blood of prepubescent girls run hot.
 
 
m. anthony bro
03:00 / 30.03.02
it's incredibly easy to get someone to say what you want without thinking, without running it through their own heads first, it's what Labour Parties are all about. It's a good reason why we have party whips, to not fulfill Norman Tebbit's gem "better to say nothing and have everyone assume you're an idiot than say something and prove it".
Assuming that celebrities are insecure, which I supppose will be a given a lot of the time, then we have to add some more into that and say that they will be looking for the best way to look on top of things, in control, giving 110%, blah blah blah.
For this, the nominees are:
(1) don't give a fuck
(2) get a big award
(3) get a cause
(1) is hard, because a lot of the time, it means that people will be angry with you, and will ostracise you, if you don't give a fuck about the right sorts of things. If you accidentally say "yay for fucking America, don't we have enough fucking flags already?" as opposed to "I cried for a whole week, I was so distraught" about September 11, for instance, then you're done for, you damned commie enemy of the people.
(2) is hard, because there aren't that many awards that count. Oscars, Golden Globes and stuff are nice. Nice too, just to be nominated. But, Mariah Carey and Britney Spears aren't going to get much beyond standing in front of a mirror and saying "this, like, toadly rules! for sure!"
(3) easy! Every kid with big sad eyes is looking for a patron saint, and every sinner wants to be it. get in, say "free tibet" at enough awards ceremonies, make enough documentaries of you in Uganda, and bammo! you're on your way.
The thing is, that causes get pretty nutty, and the competition is fierce. You either end up on one extreme, batting for the NRA, and on the other, duking it out with Elizabeth Taylor clawing at ball gowns and pulling hair yelling "no, I care about kids with AIDS more than you, you hag!"
So, who is the anti-christ? It's perhaps mean to assume that nobody cares about their cause, but sometimes it's not hard to see who's there to get their picture in People magazine. Lucy Lawless pointed out that you get all 'cared out' after a while, because you've just been asked to give and give and give.
So, it's the most tiresome, the most sincere, the most dedicated, and the one who, flipsidedly, gets to be on the front covers all the time, in articles that mention sad kids, derelict animals, dying people and political oppression very little.
Until I can figure out who that is, I'll give props to Matt LeBlanc as default anti-Christ, with Ricki Lake as Miss Congeniality.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:33 / 30.03.02
As Mike[Bro] said:

it's incredibly easy to get someone to say what you want without thinking, without running it through their own heads first

I think Chris Morris has proved this one beyond all shadow of a doubt.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
17:50 / 15.06.05
Arnold?
 
 
Triplets
19:30 / 15.06.05
I'm not sure getting penetrated by the anti-Christ in End of Days counts, your Jackness. (Sounds more like a Millar pitch).


What happens when he throws down, Jack, will you guys wrestle? With knives AND chains?
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
19:41 / 15.06.05
Arnold

As a black friend of mine once astutely put it: "There's no way they're going to let A. Black-Nigger [think about it] become President. He's a bloody foreigner, 'aint he? Whatever that means in America..."

Oh, and what about good old rootin-tootin Ronald MacDonald Reagan?
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
19:42 / 15.06.05
Or JFK, come to think of it.... He was great in the movie, really realistic...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:59 / 15.06.05
In my more paranoid, Feral House moments, I've been entertaining the suspicion that the antichrist is actually Bono- a man of charisma, with receptive ears at the UN and World Bank- dude, he may as well be called Nicolae Carpathia.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
20:10 / 15.06.05
And Bono always hides his eyes......Hmm......
 
 
Baz Auckland
22:33 / 15.06.05
I don't know... an anti-christ that annoys the hell out of a large part of the population before he even starts seems to be a disadvantage...

Maybe all those Jack-Chickites are right and the pope is really the anti-christ... although the fact that they keep dying makes them a bit of a long shot. Maybe it's a whole Dr.Who resurrection thing or something...
 
 
astrojax69
04:48 / 16.06.05
dennis hopper would be nice.

or sigourney weaver.



... knowing our luck, it'll be fucking tom hanks!
 
  
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