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New FAQs for the New Barbelith

 
 
Persephone
15:36 / 28.03.02
1. How exactly does the moderation process work?

2. What does it signify when the thread topic is colored gold vs. blue?

3. Can you PM more than one person at a time, like regular email?

4. The threads in a forum are organized by the most recent post, right?

5. What's the HTML code for bold, italic, link, and image?
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
15:39 / 28.03.02
5 should read what is the list of availible html tags for this board.
 
 
Utopia
02:10 / 29.03.02
1. only their hairdressers know for sure, and they aint talikin'

2. it's a theme carried over from the old board. gold=new posts have been added since yor last visit, blue=no new posts since last time.

3. dunno, try it.

4. disco.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
02:51 / 29.03.02
let's kill the amazingly hilarious humor for a minute and really try to figure out the right questions and answers here. i've been consistently surprised to find that tom has a very cogent reason for all the changes, and i think the faq should reflect not just basic mechanics such as what color is what, but the core reasoning behind how the board is setup and what all its supposed to be doing. since so much of the changes seem to be about 1) bandwidth issues and 2) clarity of thought, these should probably take forefront in the faq.
 
 
Persephone
11:29 / 29.03.02
it's a theme carried over from the old board. gold=new posts have been added since yor last visit, blue=no new posts since last time.

Are you sure? That doesn't seem to be the rule for mine, I just went into a gold topic & there were no new posts since the last time I was there.
 
 
Tom Coates
21:01 / 29.03.02
They're topics that have been posted to since you last logged into the site, I believe. I don't really understand the specifics of that one. You might have to ask Cal! You can private message him on that one - pm 'cal'.

I'm thinking about writing up this first stage experiment with Barbelith's moderation - I think it's been tremendously successful actually. REALLY.

I'm completely up for the FAQ - and I again think that basically we should collate questions before we actually answer them. I'm back in London on Sunday evening after a weekend with my folks, so I'll try and get something done then or on Monday morning...
 
 
Baz Auckland
03:32 / 06.02.03
Just curious: Do PMs take up bandwith? Does it help reduce space or something if they're deleted?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:05 / 06.02.03
1. How exactly does the moderation process work?

You see, to the left of a post you have made, the "moderate post" option? well, moderators see one of those next to every post in threads in the fora they are moderating, and can propose changes to any post just as you can to your own. They also have a "moderate topic" option, which allows them to change thread titles, add or modify topic abstracts, and move or delete threads.

A moderator mod request functins exactly as a normal person's request to modertae their own post works: to moderate or delete a post, the agreement of one other moderator is required. The more significant the change, the more votes are needed to do it. Thus, to move a topic or delete it, three moderators have to agree that this is the right thing to do.

The moderators for each forum are posted above the topic list in the main forum page. There are also two aministrators, who can act as if they were moderators in every forum, introduced to speed up moderation actions, and Tom Coates himself, who can act as moderator in every forum and also take extraordinary actions such as deleting suits or blocking IP addresses. Although the approval system for these actions is not in place, they have never been done without lengthy and open discussion.

The mod system exists as it does in order i) to make people think about what they are posting before they post it, since they cannot immediately alter the contents of their posts, ii) to prevent people abusing the right to mod their own posts automatically, as they used to, by indulging in orgies of selfdeletion or changing their posts after the fact to say something different (a problem of the previous model), while not giving moderators too much power. A mod cannot do anything on their own, and as such all decisions need to pass through at least two sets of eyes and minds before being approved. the aim here is to create a balabce of consensus and consideration, while still allowing routine maintenance to go on fairly easily.

It also reflects a deep ambivalence about power on Barbelith - this level of authority, far more dilute than most moderated boards - makes many people on both siodes of the divide uncomfortable, but appears to have been necessitated by a small number of members who weren't willing or able to use the board in its previous form.

2. What does it signify when the thread topic is colored gold vs. blue?

Theoretically, this identifies threads which have been posted to since you last posted to them. In fact, this system is erratic to such an extent that it can only act as a guide rather than a certainty.

3. Can you PM more than one person at a time, like regular email?

No. This is something people are requesting for the next change, for group invitations and
discussions, and also to verify responses to abusive mail. See Expressionless' "moderator mailing list" thread in the Policy. At present, the copy and paste buttons have to do duty.

4. The threads in a forum are organized by the most recent post, right?

Right.

5. What's the HTML code for bold, italic, link, and image?

<b> bold </b>

<i> italic </i>

<a href="http://www.yourlinkhere.com"> link </a>

<img src="http://www.yoursitehere.com/imagename.jpg"links to a picture.

I think those are pretty much the only HTML commands currently understood by Barbelith. there have been campaigns for a commnand equivalent to the [BLOCKQUOTE] command in UBBscript, but Tom believes it would lead to big, undigested chunks of thought being reprocessed in posts without actually being read closely, which is certainly what happened a lot of the time on the previous iteration of Barbelith.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:47 / 06.02.03
Barry - as I understand it, PMs take up space on the server, although a fairly small amount. They only consume bandwidth when you send, receive, open and read them, and then presumably add as much to the data transfer load as the same with a 1-post thread. So, you'd have to be a fairly heavy user of PMs to push the bandwidth very far up...
 
 
Persephone
12:26 / 06.02.03
You know that I log on Barbelith first thing in the morning, before work, and I'm still partly asleep... so I'm all like, goody somebody answered my thread in Policy... but I didn't start a thread in Policy... or did I?? This is good, though. I think it means that people are successfully using the search function to find threads. I've noticed this in other fora, too.

New Barbelith is almost one year old, then. We should have a New Barbelith Jubilee, shouldn't we? With cake and speeches and everything.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:40 / 06.02.03
It can't have been a year, surely?

Though I agree, when the point is reached, there should be some sort of board-wide celebration.
 
  
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