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Jay-Z & R. Kelly : The Best of Both Worlds

 
 
Matthew Fluxington
23:52 / 27.03.02
I've been listening to The Best of Both Worlds all day... I am really happy with this record, it's far better than I would have ever expected, especially considering my bias against R. Kelly. After all, I wasn't too eager to listen to the guy who is responsible for "I Believe I Can Fly", which has got to be one of the worst hit songs in pop history. I wasn't at all skeptical about Jay-Z...the man has been on fire lately, and that fire continues to blaze on with this record.

The record isn't perfect - there's a few songs which veer off too far into obnoxious standard R. Kelly territory, but even those are pretty tolerable. The songs that work, REALLY WORK. I'm talking about some sleek, state-of-the-art sexy funk with R. Kelly crooning solid hooks and Jay-Z rhyming just as great if not better than on The Blueprint. The stand-out songs on this record aren't far off from "I Just Want 2 Love U" from Roc-La-Familia... "Honey" sounds like it was seperated at birth from that song in the best possible way, and "Take You Home With Me aka Body" even shares a verse with that song, though it's sung by R. Kelly instead of rapped by Jay-Z. The track with Lil Kim is another keeper("Shake Your Body"), as is the closer "Pussy", which is far more clever than that Amazon.com review I linked to gives it credit for.

Have any of you heard this record yet? What do you think?

Cherry, Flyboy - you've both got to hear this record. That probably goes without saying, though...
 
 
Cherry Bomb
00:19 / 28.03.02
Strangely enough, I was discussing this very album with my little brother (fellow Jay-Z fan) the other night and he too has expressed it is some good stuff. I will get back to you when I have heard some of it, my man...
 
 
Cherry Bomb
00:20 / 28.03.02
Oh nice use of "For real" (as in 'Of course I love you... I love all y'all.. for real') in the thread description.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
00:48 / 28.03.02
Yeah. Thanks. If only I had remember to write "on the world" after the guy who inflicted "I Believe I Can Fly"...

Sigh.

I forgot to mention that "It Ain't Personal" and "Get This Money" are damn good too...

I think it's pretty safe to assume that the Jay-Z LP that comes out in November will knock us all out. Now, I wish Bob Pollard could combine being hugely prolific with the level quality control that Hova has...
 
 
Cherry Bomb
12:59 / 28.03.02
As an aside, just listening to some of my Jay-Z mp3s and ruminating on how my man Jigga seems to take the fact that "Reasonable Doubt" didn't sell as strongly as he wanted as a personal affront.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
13:12 / 28.03.02
That's true.

But it was good for him that his career has been a slow, steady build - it's the opposite of most hip hop careers, and it says more about his talent and drive that the guy is so obsessed with improving and cornering the market. I'm glad to see anybody fucking with the industry's accepted norms by releasing three or more records per year - there's just no good reason why artists shouldn't be doing that, it's in the artist's best interests to constantly be writing and recording new material and in Jigga's case, trying to have a lot of hits every time out.
 
 
No star here laces
13:22 / 28.03.02
In a threadrotting aside - has anyone here seen the mpeg of (allegedly) R Kelly fucking a 13 year old? My mate claims there's an archive of several hours worth of the stuff, and that his management have already made several payouts to keep things quiet. Apparently the man's been busy...

How much more amusing than the Jonathan King case would this be? 'Specially if the girls were white. Love to see how America deals with that...
 
 
suds
16:16 / 29.03.02
lyra- rape or abuse of any kind is generally not seen as 'amusing', least not where i come from.
 
 
tSuibhne
16:36 / 29.03.02
Flipping through the channels last night, I came across Bill Maher on that new VH1 show (Late Night With Zach, or something like that).

Bill made an interesting point. He said his white friends are competly unaware of this, but his black friends all know about it. He then drew a comparison between this and the Tommy Lee/Pamala Anderson tape, and how the media jumped all over that, but are ignoring this story.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
18:04 / 31.03.02
I just read an item in the CHicago paper on Friday that apparently R.Kelly's lawyers are working overtime to deal with some sex scandal and I would bet it is related to this video you're talking about.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
11:27 / 01.04.02
News of this tape came out the day before R. Kelly performed at the Olympics opening ceremonies. It was widely reported. Apparently, an allegded tape of the incident is available from vendors on the NYC streets. Haven't seen it though.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
17:12 / 06.04.02
It was sent anonymously to the Chicago Sun-Times, and they turned it over to the police. The biggest Urban station in Chicago, WGCI (107.5!) held a big "Boycott R. Kelly" rally on Thursday. Bootleg copies are apparently widely available in Chicago, Miami, NYC, etc.

I'd check out E-Bay...


Jay-Z is distancing himself form R. Kelly due to this whole thing and has actually tried to pull pictures of the two of them together.
 
 
tSuibhne
14:57 / 06.06.02
Just an update

R. Kelly has been arrested on 21 counts of child pornagraphy
 
 
gridley
15:06 / 06.06.02
I heard something on the news today where he said something like...

"Let me just say two things. First off, that's not me in the video. And second of all, that girl said she was over 18!"
 
  
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