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Fortean Times Unconvention 2002

 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:27 / 15.03.02
I'm tempted to go to this, and was just wondering if anyone here had already planned to do so. 6th and 7th April at the Commonwealth Institute in London. Tickets 27.50 sterling (pound sign not working on this keyboard) for the two days, 17.50 for one day.

Speakers include Lionel Fanthorpe, Jan Bondeson and Graham Hancock. More info at the Fortean Times website.

Anyone?
 
 
Shortfatdyke
14:58 / 15.03.02
been wanting to go for years, but it's rather out of my price range
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:04 / 15.03.02
I know what you mean. Not only am I likely to be searching for the gutters for loose change in order to finance this, it's also fallen at exactly the wrong time, what with so much university work due in that week. Seven days later would have been perfect (Mr Student Loan Cheque is due the next week).

I'm not definitely going to be able to make it, but the line up looks almost too good to turn down. 28 quid doesn't seem all that much when compared to the Glastonbury ticket prices, either.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:06 / 15.03.02
(Double post due to shit connection)

[ 15-03-2002: Message edited by: E. Randy Dupre ]
 
 
Bill Posters
10:51 / 17.03.02
Same problem, but two (or three?) years ago I went on the second day with no ticket and just breezed in. I believe the only visible thing you needed to prove you'd paid was a badge. Maybe I was lucky but as a last resort it's maybe worth a shot...
 
 
that
12:36 / 17.03.02
I've been to a couple of these, really enjoyed the first one I went to. Patchy, but varied enough that at least some of the talks are interesting to most of those inclined to go - useless info, but I enjoyed the Lionel Fanthorpe 'Oak Island Money Pit Mystery' talk, one on Nikola Tesla and one on the 'fake' NASA photos. However my lingering memory of the last one I went to is of being glared at for my 'Beware of God' Marilyn Manson t-shirt (don't anyone laugh - I was 15 at the time, ok???), and eventually wimping out completely and buying a Schwa t-shirt just so I could change into something more socially acceptable...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:04 / 02.04.02
Tickets finally arrived. Just a bit worried now that I'm not going to be able to see some of the speakers I want to - there's a definite timetable in my head of who's going to be really good and who's going to be a bit shit. Problem is, I'm going to be jumping from one auditorium as soon as the session's finished to get to the other in time so that it's not filled out. How busy has this been on the occasions you've gone?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:39 / 07.04.02
I know it's kinda late to join this thread, what with it just having finished and all, but I didn't know I was going until Friday night. And THEN I couldn't actually get there until Saturday afternoon, due to already having booked my morning. Then found out I had a pass for Sunday too... good, good weekend.
ANYWAY. If you went, E. R DuP. or anyone else, did anyone see the Ken Campbell thing on Saturday? Cos HOW FUCKING MAD WAS THAT???
 
 
gozer the destructor
10:20 / 08.04.02
Can we have a review and basic run down of events for all of us who couldn't make it?
 
 
Fra Dolcino
12:45 / 08.04.02
Haven't got the time for a full run-down, but the Ken Campbell talk involved a woman on all fours spraying water out of her arse into the crowd. Nice. Fortunately we were a few rows back!

There was a good cryptozoology discussion by Adam Davies, who seems to have discovered a new ground walking type of orang-utan, that was called the Sumatran Yeti. Good talk (with tips on setting up your own exhibitions), and some plaster casts. Supposedly, the news will be hitting the press soon.

I missed it, but E. Randy said that the Jan Bondesman talk about being buried alive was a good lecture.

Jon Ronson's talk on his book 'Them' was by all accounts shite. He didn't seem to know what he was on about.

And that X-files talk on Sunday afternoon was dire......
 
 
DaveBCooper
15:07 / 08.04.02
Yer right about the X-Files talk being garbage – he said that Mulder was based on Agent Cooper from Twin Peaks, which rather overlooks Chris Carter’s admission it was inspired by Kolchak… left after 15 mins.

I’d have to disagree that Ronson didn’t know what he was talking about; he may not have been fully genned-up on all the ideas of the people he mixed with, but he was lively and fun, showed some good clips, and made the audience laugh a lot.

Most disappointing for me was Peter Brookesmith on the Betty and Barney Hill abduction, as he wasn’t his usual focussed self (he admitted he’d lost his notes on the train), and the subject matter suffered as a result. Shame, as he’s usually a sharp mind (he did an excellent talk on saucer wrecks being Grail-equivalents at the first UnCon).

I missed the talk on sceptics from Colin Bennett on Sat PM, but I gather it got quite heated – anyone able to tell me roughly what happened ?

Favourite Q/A of the weekend:
Q: What do you think of psychoanalysis?
Colin Wilson : I think Freud is shit.

DBC
 
 
Fra Dolcino
15:43 / 08.04.02
Have to admit, I didn't attend the Ronson lecture... it was just the impression other people who had been gave.


Good to see DBC, that we weren't the only ones to run out on Coppers' X-files talk!
 
 
Spatula Clarke
16:48 / 08.04.02
Ronson just seemed to be there to plug his book and nothing else. My main problem with him was that all he did was read a couple of passages and show a couple of clips from his TV series - other than that, there was no real meat to his talk. His self-effacing manner was attractive and amusing, but otherwise I was left distinctly underwhelmed. He also failed to relate any of what he was saying to any similar occurrences/individuals. The list of apparent evil reptilian paedophiles has been provided by a number of people over the years, including their supposed victims, yet Ronson made it seem as though this was all down to David Icke.

Jan Bondeson's 'Buried Alive!' was highly entertaining. I've praised Bondeson to ridiculous amounts in one of the threads in Books. Admittedly, he said nothing that isn't in his book of the same name, but he was knowledgeable, intelligent, entertaining and personable.

Steve Jones’ ‘Hooded Entities’ talk was also very good. A number of reports of hooded, red-eyed apparitions in country areas around what were possibly sites of worship. Linked to the ‘creature on the stairs’ episode related by Phil Hine in Condensed Chaos. Jones’ conclusion was that these apparitions are either manifestations of an Earth goddess or thought-forms (Jones’ is an active pagan witch). Again, an interesting and informative talk by a guy who wasn’t actually trying to plug anything.

Mike Jay’s ‘Mind Control in the 19th Century’ was the highlight of the weekend for me. Jay related the story of one James Tilly Matthew, a man whose attempts to help engender peace between England and revolutionary France led to his incarceration inside Bedlam. Matthew became convinced that a group of French revolutionaries were active in London, using a mind control device on politicians, the press etc. The ‘Air Loom’ was powered by the contents of three barrels, including, amongst other ingredients, the fart of a horse. A number of people, all of whom Matthew gave names and job titles to, worked the machine. Jay proposed Matthew as one of the earliest documented, scientifically-diagnosed cases of paranoid schizophrenia.

The Doug Skinner talk was fairly boring. The Mothman story is extremely well-known right now, as are the activities of John Keel. The film at the end was bizarre, if nothing else.

‘Legendary Dragons of the Mekong Delta’ saw Richard Freeman taking the audience through his journey to attempt to find the mythical Naga. Another highly entertaining speaker (with an uncanny resemblance to the comedian Bill Bailey), Freeman’s adventure unfortunately presented him with no concrete evidence of the Naga’s existence. Plenty of local anecdotes, though, which Freeman combined with the reality of other huge versions of specific species around the same area (as proven by the impressive slide of a dead, 7 foot by 7 foot Manta Ray).

The whole Ken Campbell thing was, as stated above, very odd. As Dolcino says, the appearance of a pretty blonde woman in a black suit who could shoot a stream of water out of her ring at least made it memorable, although I’ll be damned if I can work out what the hell it was all about.

Stayed in the second auditorium throughout Sunday. Lionel Fanthorpe was, as expected, fantastic. He even rounded each of his two talks off with a song, outlining the main points that he’d made.

Adam Davies’ told us about his expedition to find the Sumatran Yeti, a hirsute 4-5 foot mammal that is apparently peculiar to that part of the world. They even provided evidence of its existence, in the form of a plaster cast of a footprint (the discovery of the footprint shown in video footage) and hairs that have been tested by experts in the field of, um, hair-testing. The results point towards this being a previously unknown type of Orang-utan, which primarily lives on the ground and walks entirely upright. Exciting. A bit of a buzz in the room for that announcement.

Gail Nina Anderson traced the history of the Vampire mythos. Good fun, well researched, but nothing amazingly original.

Filip Coppens’ X-Files thing was shit. We walked out after about fifteen minutes.

Overall, an enormously enjoyable weekend. Even got to meet our very own Ellis for a few pints afterwards.
 
 
DaveBCooper
15:13 / 09.04.02
Fanthorpe was a lot of fun, I agree. Very entertaining, and I noticed the way he made a point of saying ‘oooh, that’s a good question’ or similar during the Q and A sessions to make people feel good about their participation.

Was the chap accompanying him on the guitar Jonathan Downes of Owlman fame ? I’ve got a short tape of his stuff, and it’s all right.

And is my memory playing tricks, or did Ken Campbell do some car ads recently ?

Overall, agreed, a good time, though I was a little disappointed in the range of stalls etc – some of the ones in the past have had more stuff like that, as I recall.

DBC
 
  
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