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Tamayyurt
22:47 / 03.02.02
Ok, I'm taking a course on playwriting and it's become more difficult than I thought. Can anyone give me and help on format and dialogue and all that. (You'd think they'd actually teach you that in the course but noooo it's more like the Prof. talking to and coaching his little theater dept. clique and ignoring the rest of us.) I'm so pissed. I want to write the most brilliant thing he has ever seen and blow this fucker away with my mere 30 min play. Um, so HELP!
 
 
Persephone
23:02 / 03.02.02
Perhaps you could get a copy of a published play and basically copy that format? Or I might be able to email you a few pages of the play I wrote last year; it's a Word doc and I think the styles are in there.

This is a very broad question, though... can you say what you are specifically having trouble with? I will tell you that my personal preference is not to clutter up the page with stage directions; it drives me crazy when every line is flagged with an adverb for how to say it, that's the damn actors' job to figure that out!
 
 
Tamayyurt
23:31 / 03.02.02
go light on the stage directions, thanks.

and please, sending a sample script would be great.

I'm also having trouble with ideas. I'm not a theater buff and so my ideas can't be done on stage (cheaply) I mean I can do the personal "people" story just fine (I'm really not one of these dorks that hand in a comicbook script for a playwriting class) but it's hard. I just don't know.
 
 
The Apple-Picker
23:58 / 03.02.02
What texts do you use in your class?
 
 
Persephone
00:00 / 04.02.02
You know what play I think you might like, it's called Ghost In The Machine... I'm sorry, I've completely forgotten whom it's by. It's not a perfect play, but it has an interesting premise that might be up your alley and a neat structure.

I'll try to send you something tomorrow morning. You know that I really liked that bit of essay you posted on mayahana buddhism; Husband liked it too, and he's taught some years' worth of college comp... you're a creative thinker, don't panic & you'll find your way!
 
 
Tamayyurt
00:20 / 04.02.02
texts? there are no texts. The guy's like, "Go off and write your shitty little plays. You will learn by doing and I will laugh."
 
 
Persephone
01:00 / 04.02.02
See now, that's a very funny line!

Alrighty, I've fixed up some sample pages... can I just send to the email address in your profile?
 
 
The Apple-Picker
03:53 / 04.02.02
My playwriting prof, unlike yours, was a kindly guide. Perhaps a little too kindly, as I really disliked my plays (I like comedies, and I could only ever seem to write drama).

The text we used was The Elements of Playwriting: How to Write Stageworthy Plays, Develop Your Theatre Sense, Create Theatrical Characters, Shape Plot and Dialogue, and Find the Resources to Get Your Play Produced by Louis E. Catron. Sounds like everything you need, yes? (It wasn't very expensive, either--not like the usual hefty prices that come with books you have to buy for school.)

And the best advice I can give to any writer is to read and study the literature in your prospective genre. It can teach just as much as any textbook.
 
 
Tamayyurt
12:10 / 04.02.02
I'll look for those books tomorrow when I go to Barns&Noble. Thanks.

And P. my e-mail is fineor you can send it to impulsivelad2@aol.com

question: indenting? How many spaces do I indent the stage direction, the dialogue, and character?
 
 
Persephone
12:25 / 04.02.02
I am not sure that there are hard and fast rules about formatting. Does your professor not say *anything* about what he wants? The format I use is originally from a screenwriting program, I think... picture's worth a thousand words, so I'll just send you the sample pages & you can see. Mostly practical considerations dictate --wide margins, so you can write notes next to the lines and stuff like that. I've never taken an actual playwrighting class, so I don't know any formal doctrines...?

Well anyway, sample pages coming right up! I don't think you should worry too much about the format, unless your prof is going to be an asshole about it.
 
 
The Apple-Picker
12:37 / 04.02.02
See, what was so great about the text, Impulsivelad, is that it was just one book--all that info wrapped up in a singular tidy cover.
 
 
Tamayyurt
20:13 / 04.02.02
Thanks, P.
That script was a big help. The 6 pae scene I had to write today was better thanks to you
 
 
Persephone
23:31 / 04.02.02
Hey, great! The world needs more plays!
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
02:10 / 05.02.02
Hey, a partner in crime...

I'm also taking a playwriting class this semester, but I'm coming at the elephant with a different blind man because I've been studying theatre for four years at university already. We also aren't using any texts besides our own work (every Monday we hand in our assignments, and we discuss everyone's work in Tuesday's class. There's only seven of us there), and I'm having a blast. I suppose, tips:

Don't worry about your ideas not being easy to stage, or even possible to stage. There are certain things like "Mr.X smashes the glass on the floor" which many directors will cut for safety reasons, but I've had directions like "Barbara cowers as Joan looms over her, sprouting huge, black oily wings." And that's just fine. Directors, designers, and actors will figure out a way to convey the idea; if your idea has to be stated that way, fine. Take risks. Do what you want to do and if you hate it, throw it out and start again. Go abstract. Go ultra-realist. We don't actually care what it's about as long as it's interesting.

As for format: make it easy to read. That's the most important thing, I think.

Next tippage: see some theatre. As much as you can. Get a feel for what you like. And to reiterate theapplepicker's advice, read plays. There aren't any rules about dialogue. My prof was telling us tonight about Franz Kroetz' "Request Concert," a 60-minute play entirely of stage directions. (And I will echo Persephone on the inane stage directions: actors don't usually need to be told how to say lines; they'll figure that out.)

I could go on forever, so I should probably stop. Oh yeah - one thing I like to keep in mind is what a prof said to me once about Beckett: theatre is real life, just compressed, distilled, concentrated. We get to the point faster ... if there is a point at all.

And here goes, here's the first draft of the scene I handed in this week:http://individual.utoronto.ca/johanna/328-erebus.doc

(Aaaaagh, posting first draft! Death!)
Keep at it... and keep us posted!
 
  
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