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Who here has written for a magazine?

 
 
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00:34 / 22.07.01
I want to become a freelance writer and I have a lot of questions like:
How do you go about submitting your stuff? Who do you submit it to?
What's the difference between an associate editor, and managing editor?
How much do you generally get paid?
How long does it take for them to pay you? Is the competition really fierce?
Is it a realistic way to get by?
Why do I keep asking so many questions?
Why don't I just shut up?
Well?

[ 22-07-2001: Message edited by: zerone ]
 
 
Ariadne
08:31 / 22.07.01
Do you have any copies of previous work you can show them, even if it's unpublished? They'll want to have an idea of your style before they go commissioning anything.

There are two ways you can go about it - write an article and then tout it round magazines, or try to persuade them to commission something. Generally I'd favour the latter because it saves you putting loads of effort in and then finding it's not what they want. BUT, if you're unknown, it might be best to turn up with a good, well written article. Once they get to know you can write and deliver to deadline, then they might start commissioning.

Who do you want to write for? Bear in mind that the 'cooler' the mag, the more people will be wanting to write for it, and lots of them will do it for free or for very little. It might be worth getting work on something more prosaic just to build up a portfolio and then trying to get into the stuff you really want to do.

Lots of people do make a living as freelance writers but it can be hard - freelancers tend to be last to get paid when money's tight (count on two to three months wait), so you'll need some funds to fall back on. It's easier if you have a specific area of expertise too.

Oh, and a managing editor doesn't generally have much to do with the day to day running - you'd be better to call the editor, features editor or deputy editor - every magazine's different though, so I'd just call up and ask who's best to talk to.

Hope that helps.
 
 
Ariadne
08:39 / 22.07.01
Sorry, I didn't answer you about how much you get paid. Are you in the UK? I haven't done a whole lot of freelance here, cause I work full time but when I did, I think I got paid about 30p a word. That'll vary according to the magazine though - anyone else know the standard rate?
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
08:39 / 22.07.01
While I've not freelanced since I've been in the UK (and was a salaried writer/sub back home, so that's no use) I can point you towards the UK National Union of Journalists' rates page. It's current, but you'll probably find some companies pushing for less, or wanting your soul as well - etc, etc. Depends. The NUJ's website might be able to give you some more pointers, also; they have a couple of alert services for freelancers. I've not used them - I don't know if I'd be eligible - but it could be a help...

Just as a rough guide, though, taken from the rates page, it looks like 1000 words will score you anywhere between £37 (Troubador) and £1000 (Wallpaper), depending on the publication.

This will, of course, be absolutely no help at all if you're not in the UK. Oops.
 
 
grant
20:42 / 22.07.01
I'd definitely write "on spec" (that is, unsolicited stuff) -- but only after getting a real handle on the kind of publication you're writing for. If possible, get a few copies of it and read them a couple times each.

The difference between a managing editor and an associate editor? That's a tough one.
Editor or Editor in Chief is usually top of the food chain.
A Managing Editor, in my experience, is someone who supervises a group, like a "beat" on a daily newspaper or the photo desk or writing desk at the pub I work for.
An Associate Editor can be someone immediately below a managing editor or the editor in chief -- at the Enquirer, my dad was called an "associate editor" because he had a team of reporters who he immediately supervised/gave leads to, etc. But basically he was just a fancy reporter. The managing editor was second in command, running the paper a little more directly than the e-i-c (who, in those days, was also the publisher).

With news tabloids, it varies. A "downpage" or small story will get you between $50 and $200. Page leads in "newsier" papers will get more, and cover stories will get $350 and up.

But the real money is in photographs.

Magazines probably pay more per article, because they're longer and because - at least with feature stories - individual writing style comes more into play.

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It's a realistic way to get by, but it involves on personal connections with at least one but usually three or four different "markets". The hustling is what kills me - you have to *always* be trying to exploit markets, *always* looking for stories, *always* looking for a way to sell the same story "exclusively."
Resales are the best way to make money, and if you can offer "exclusively" in a particular country or region, you make the editor happy. There are syndicates and agencies which can work for you, but in general my experience isn't all that great with them -- my dad (who's been freelancing since the mid-70s) has had a couple agencies who brought in lots of unexpected money, and a few who simply sold stories overseas and never told him. He'd simply chance into a story he wrote in some magazine translated into Norwegian or German without ever having the first idea it had been sold there (and without getting any $$ for it).
Sometimes this would happen with the same agencies.
So, the business involves lots of selling things and lots of organizing things.
But it can be good, too.
 
  
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