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Something I saw at Alex Toth's website...

 
 
Ever Perez
07:00 / 09.07.01
quote:I'm rewriting this for the umpteenth time, in different ways, yet saying the same thing -- that the party's over, kiddies! Since I was born in 1928 -- and was just old enough to applaud the first comic books in the early and mid-1930's, I've witnessed the best and worst of the form from then to now -- I loved the medium of the comic book as I did the syndicated comic strip in its countless forms, subjects, treatments -- in my time. Now in the autumn or winter of my life, my eyes have seen the bad drive out the good, the terminal deterioration and all-but-lost/dead adventure strip -- and the fun and magic, and delicious innocence and surprises in the comic book; which, unless room is made for such again, will not, cannot, should not, survive.

The ugly, mean, vile, banal, twisted, sick, bloody celebration of torture, rape, cruelty, filth, demonic and socio-political psycho-babble -- and death -- is disgusting stuff to me -- and it's our youngest writers/cartoonists/editors cranking out this garbage! Which is sub-anti-human drek, devoid of original thought or of moral, ethical values -- it is hopeless fatalism, nihilism, anarchy, pointy-headed anti-everything gibberish -- and most of it dares to label itself 'adult' -- 'for mature readers' -- etc, ect -- which is nonsense!

Much more 'adult and mature' are the stories no one can, or will, write about and illustrate: Joy, wonder, love honor, humor, wit, intelligence, invention, compassion, trust, respect, duty, character, sacrifice, sentiment, family, discovery, exploration, history, the myriad peoples, customs, and stories abounding out there in the world -- human stories!

It's just too easy and predictable to grind out incessant repetitions of the doom and gloom, post-armageddon bilge, garbage anti- and non-heroic bumbling 'heroes', to feed the sickness of its own making -- damn how well it may be written or drawn! It's garbage! Created by the young for the younger and youngest readers -- who, for twenty years of it, almost two generations now -- keep buying it! It's beyond me! I fear for our future -- if we're to have one (?) -- if such is 'entertainments' for our fathers and leaders of tomorrow! What might their offspring be like, then, I wonder.

Nope, sorry -- I see no future for us, for them, for comics, tv, movies, etc, unless we kick 'sick', and give kids back their childhood years of innocence, hope, faith, joy, wonder, morals, morale, just plain good clean fun --

The sick kick plagues comics everywhere, east to west, from Japan to England to Europe to here --(I don't know about our Southern Latin neighbors)-- we've had enough of desolation of spirit and shock to our senses. The comic book is, in the hands of today's worst practitioners and proselytizers of this mind-set, committing suicide! and murder! of its traditions, roots!

It cannot stand --
As it is, it should not!

A pox on it, and those who uglify children's minds and senses and expectations with their miasmic miserable muck and mayhem!

And the pale horses they rode in on!

'Cursed be the fool who destroys wonder!

Remember?

I do . . .

© 1991 Alex Toth
 
 
grant
12:09 / 09.07.01
Mr. Toth is a grump.

 
 
rizla mission
13:47 / 09.07.01
well he seems a pretty miserable old sod.
 
 
the Fool
23:15 / 09.07.01
quote: The ugly, mean, vile, banal, twisted, sick, bloody celebration of torture, rape, cruelty, filth, demonic and socio-political psycho-babble -- and death -- is disgusting stuff to me

so I guess he won't be up for 100 Bullets then?
 
 
Ever Perez
19:10 / 10.07.01
I think you missed the point of Toth’s “rant.” Human beings and the emotions we experience are remarkably varied. As writers—as creators, we have a wide range of history, obsessions, and experiences to draw from but everyone seems to be gathered at one or two wells to drink. Books like Transmetropolitan, The Invisibles, Preacher or Hellblazer are fine, but have no more place being the dominant in our industry anymore than superhero books do. I neither need nor want to see antiheroes anymore than I need or want to see more superheroes—diversity should be and needs to be the order of the day.

I would like to see a resurfacing of the Romance comic—and no, I do not mean comics with exchanges like this (and yes, I did just write this—it’s a joke on the old romance comics and 50’s movies…:

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Page One

Panel 1. Establishing shot of Brenda Michaels and Rex Burton as they stand together watching the sunrise from the top of the Eiffel Tower.

BRENDA (1): OH REX…. I... I LOVE YOU…

BRENDA (2): I CAN’T HOLD IT IN ANY LONGER… I LOVE YOU… I LOVE YOU… I WANT TO SPEND THE REST OF MY LIFE IN YOUR ARMS… I DON’T CARE WHAT THE REST OF THE WORLD THINKS…

Panel 2. Angle on Rex Burton as a lone tear streams down his face.

REX: BRENDA… I…

Panel 3. Angle on Brenda Michaels putting her index over Rex Morgan’s lips as if to hush him. Brenda Michael’s eyes are filled with tears, but she’s smiling because she knows that the words she wanted to hear for so long were about to come from his mouth—that he loves her.

BRENDA: I KNOW…

Panel 4. Angle on Brenda Michaels and Rex Burton in a passionate embrace—Rex’s back is turned to us, but we can see Brenda’s smiling face looking at us from over Rex’s shoulder.

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I would like to see love in the pages of a comic—real love, in all its careless missteps and random acts of awkwardness. I’d also like to see a war comic, a slice-of-life comic, a comedy, or an adventure comic—anything other than the norm. Give me diversity over quasi-revolutionaries any day. Our little bastard child of a medium has so much potential and we’re just wasting it. Do something different damn it or just do something good damn it.


[As a side note: I mainly write the sick, twisted banal and vile stuff that Mr. Toth is disgusted by. Go figure…]
 
 
grant
13:07 / 11.07.01
You ever read "Hate"?

It's got everything Toth is yearning for, wrapped in a package he'd never touch.
 
  
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