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the Fool
22:58 / 24.06.01
Nevada. Girl Mathematician is working in a diner, having a break from the pressures of university life and her thesis. She wanted to be in a place that was so quite it was almost falling apart. A place where her overworked mind could find peace in the mundane and ordinary.

Her thesis has been causing her a lot of stress. She is persuing some theory of connectivity. A mathematical theorem that maps interaction between individuals and environment.

Her thesis caused her relationship to collaspe and she went through a breakdown. She started getting painful migraines when she thought to much about her thesis. She wanted to be away from people and shedules and deadlines and math. She wanted to be in a place where those things were less important. She wanted space. She ran away.

Now she is nowhere, working in a diner called 'the last chance' just up the road from the almost non-existant town of Neverwas. Her life is slow routine, she is almost calm.

That's when it starts happening again. It starts with a conversation with one of the regulars in the diner. The regular, a crusty old bum, starts dropping fragments of her theory into the conversation. They have never discussed it before. She begins to get headaches again.

It happens again. This time with a mother of four who is heading for the town of Neverwas.

She starts noticing that nearly everyone in the town knows something about her theory. Some seem to know more about her that they let on. She starts to get scared. She begins to feel herself begin dragged back to where she broke down. She can't tell if she's sane anymore.

She pulls out her research data. Her data begins to resemble a map. Where locations are marked across the globe. Eventually all pinpointing the diner as the epicentre of the 'effect'. This gives her a splitting headache.

A storm is brewing. Our Heroine is not acting rationally anymore, but neither are a majority of the town. She has to get back to the diner. The end of the world is enacted at Neverwas. Fire brimstone screaming, but most strangely of all vanishing. The town of Neverwas (not a thriving metropolis at the best of times) was ceasing to exist.

She gets back to the diner as the storm reaches its peak. She goes inside...

The catch? This could all be going on inside her head. She didn't recover from her breakdown and is actually still in a hospital bed staring blankly into space. The storm is her trying to wake up. The diner is the doorway back to the real world. She has been hinding in a coma construct.
 
 
Mazarine
23:00 / 24.06.01
is she right?
That people are being mind controlled? Sure nuff is. That others aren't? Again, yep.
why is this happening to her, specifically?
Much like the fnord of Discordianism, a mathematical algorithm has been scattered into media. The algorithm is a formula which soothes the mind, inducing a Donna Reed-esque state- all seems right with the world. Before becoming a waitress, she was part of a team which discovered the algorithm. The others are still working on the project, except for one with whom she escaped, who is missing and presumed dead. These mathematicians possess awareness of the algorithm, and with it immunity.

what is the external force, if it exists? I dunno. The Commies? McCarthy's group? J.R. "Bob" Dobbs?

what actions do people under control perform that they would not otherwise?
They have a very narrow range of reaction. Their emotions get as far into the negative as "boy does that ever make me steamed gosh darn!" and as far into the positive as "boy, that's pretty swell!" The general public just skims over news items which should terrify them. The mathematicians are now working on a second algorithm, one which will trigger the human mind to extreme hostility.

Why some are immune- Innate/latent mathematical talent? A well developed pineal gland? A particularly strong bridge between the left, mathematical/lingual side of the brain and the right, which (for the sake of argument) can grasp why the algorithm works?

Have I spelled algorithm right once during this entire post?
 
 
Wombat
06:39 / 25.06.01
Is she right? Never resolved. At different points in the film the viewers opinion swings either way. At some points she does totally counter-intuitive things that only make sense later. Suggesting that the audience is part of the contolled masses and she is slowly learning to think for herself.


Why is this happening to her specifically? She is very bright but slightly nuts. Some of the stuff is real, some of it is happening only in her head.

What is the external force? Memes are the medium it uses. It`s not human but is born of the synergy of millions of interacting humans. If it`s sentient then there is no way we can ever understand it. It`s goal is simply to survive. Anyone not transmitting the memes strongly or not interacting with other people enough is dangerous and is harrased to conform.
Attacks consist of people doing very small normal things which snowball into danger. (someone who has never smoked before trys smoking and in disgust throws the ciggie away...into a pile of litter that people have been compulsively creating just upwind of the diner..over the course of the film the maths woman has thrown flammable items of litter there herself. Even before she started to notice stuff)

What actions do people perform that they would not otherwise? I love the idea of people buying the same ornaments and performing actions at the same time. They should me fairly sinister but everyday at the same time. (for example creepy clowns, eating fairly gross things, the crimes commited should be motiveless and strange...perhaps stealing the left half of trainers)
 
 
Wombat
07:22 / 25.06.01
(perhaps queens I`m going slightly mad for the soundtrack )
 
 
grant
13:41 / 25.06.01
quote:Originally posted by Nick:
is she right?


It seems like it could be valuable to leave this an open question. Let's just say in the process of the narrative, there are those who cannot deny her belief system as much as they might try.

quote:
why is this happening to her, specifically?


She did an interdisciplinary dissertation with her fiance, a behavioral psychologist, analyzing large-scale patterns of human behavior in response to various stimulus. Why people panic during plagues, and how it's possible to predict outcomes of that panic. The WAY they panic, that is.

In the course of the project, the fiance dies in an accident, shortly after they realize the predictive model which worked for all of human history stopped working shortly after the widespread use of television (or whatever Unhealthy Modern Convenience or Widespread Diabolical Device you'd like to pin this on).

Television (or UMC/WDD) caused the social pattern to crumble into fractal chaos around the edges. The Mass' normal reactions became muted, more prone to paranoia.

quote:
what is the external force, if it exists?


A specific, wildly popular cable channel.
The television broadcast is a carrier signal for the real visual/electronic input.

The waitress, a few years after the death & dropping out of school, has noticed the interference in the predictive model stopped being chaotic and started being directed.

(She tries to forget the model, but it comes to mind every time she watches the news, and some of the diner regulars like to have CNN on during the lunch breaks, or The Weather Channel before they go fishing/hunting/whatever).

There is, of course, an Executive Programming Board who have a vested interest in eliminating those who are immune to their signal.

quote:
what actions do people under control perform that they would not otherwise?


speak words that aren't theirs, instead quote wholesale bits of "input" from the source programming. Act out certain scenes from top-rated sitcoms.
That's a symptom, at least.

Direct paranoia and aggression against certain "flags" -- like black trenchcoats, or long-haired males, or things even more subtle. Use of the words "workers' rights," say, could trigger a specific response.
And the responses are becoming more primally motivated -- people choosing atypical sex partners, for instance, or becoming complicit in hate crimes.
(at it's most extreme, this could lend itself to bi/lesbian love slaves and homicidal bodyguards for the Executive Board members.)

Interestingly, the plot could also bring up the fact that the board members themselves would not be immune to the signal. It could be that they themselves get INTO the brainwashing, but in a drug-trip sort of way. Maybe they have some way to jam the signal or insulate themselves while watching the top shows.


(I'd like to note that I wrote this before reading the other responses, and it's WEIRD how well all the different versions and revisions coincide.)

[ 25-06-2001: Message edited by: grant ]
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
13:05 / 28.06.01
This is the postcard outline of what's going on, mulching it all together, yet trying to cut it down as far as possible...we can't get too complex or we'll never have time to explain...

A mathematician is working as a waitress in a diner. She believes individuals are manipulated or controlled some of the time by an external force. She is the only person she knows of who can tell the difference between ordinary behaviour and controlled behaviour.
Some people (not including her) seem to be immune. These she finds even more terrifying, for the most part, than ordinary humans.


This woman and her fiance worked out a predictive formula for human behaviour, which no longer works in the modern world - that might, in fact be the definition of the modern world. He went crazy and she quit, and the diner she works in is just down the road from the asylum where he is incarcerated.

Sooo...

Someone is trying to rework the human programme...who? How many groups? What do they want? (I love grant's brainwashing-addicted controllers...)

Why does it affect her personally, and why can she not simply be quietly eliminated?

What can she do about it? Does she want to save it, take power, die?
 
 
Perfect Tommy
13:53 / 28.06.01
quote:Someone is trying to rework the human programme...who? How many groups? What do they want?
Three groups. Painting in broad strokes, they are the scary-conservative-1984-men-in-black fascists creating a Perfectly Safe America, the corresponding dismantle-laws-and-institutions-and-people-will-be-groovy-and-save-whales folks, and the third group, which has had its goals so distorted that whatever they wanted is lost, and their goals are completely incoherent.

All three groups border on incoherency at times, actually... why? Because they're all susceptible to their own (and opposing factions') brainwashing. Group #3 is just the one that's succumbed to group brain-fry first... you can only re-write memories and beliefs so many times. When representatives from these groups actually show up, they're scarier than any of the previous brainwashed civilians; they show the scars of fighting a war using subliminals as ammunition.

quote:Why does it affect her personally, and why can she not simply be quietly eliminated?
The factions will only use subliminal control to do anything, now... it's because of how they've warped each other, or it's the only tool they remember how to use, or it's the only way they believe they can avoid exposure.

If one faction moves to eliminate her, another protects her, in the hopes of using her predictive theories to turn the tide of the war. An anti-action sequence (calm, dream-like, no cuts) where the mathematician just watches as random passersby attempt to assassinate her or involve her in fatal accidents as others "accidentally" interfere with the attempt(s).

quote:What can she do about it? Does she want to save it, take power, die?
She may think she's dropped out, but she still needs to know what is really going on, whether or not it kills her. (Hey, the mood is "noir", right?) It occurs to me that the way a mathematician with a predictive model of human behavior does detective work would involve a lot of odd behavior and careful observation... If she kidnaps a neighbor's cat, what happens to the classified ads?

[ 28-06-2001: Message edited by: doubting thomas ]
 
 
grant
18:20 / 28.06.01
quote:Originally posted by Nick:
Someone is trying to rework the human programme...who? How many groups? What do they want? (I love grant's brainwashing-addicted controllers...)


(flattered)
I think there's lots of mileage to be made from competing networks -- particularly if one group tries to present itself at first as a resistance organization. Picture Adbusters being secretly taken over by HBO.

She could even meet the resistance group online first, then have her expectations dashed when meeting in the flesh (a situation which keys into modern email-stalker fears).

quote:
Why does it affect her personally,


Geez, her boyfriend's in the County Hospital and you wanna know why it affects her personally? Give them a little visit together in the second or third scene, and you're set. You can even have him foreshadow the whole rest of the plot, if you want.
A better question is: HOW is he mad?
I'd lean toward two options -- either he's a TV-fied zombie, staring raptly at the screen and awaiting further orders OR he gouged his own eyes out and tends to rant and rave.
Or, he could move from one to the other throughout the first half of the film, depending on how much of a character we'd like to make him.

quote:and why can she not simply be quietly eliminated?

I'm not sure. It might be fun if the picture evolved into a long chase from the baddies, but I'm not sure if that's what we want.
My feeling is she's either too small a fish for them to fry, or else they're simply not aware of her. She quit the university project before the findings were published and the experiment was privatized.
The company officially doesn't know she's out there.
Or, they didn't know at first....

quote:
What can she do about it? Does she want to save it, take power, die?
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Her main goal throughout should be to REVEAL the programming or DISABLE it at least.
Might be fun having a journalist she's in touch with who's ready to write her off as loony before some Item of Proof opens his eyes. (For some reason, I have a mental picture of Stanley Tucci in a newsroom. Probably irrelevant. Ignore that.)
Might also be fun having a Watchmen-ripoff ending, where the Final Bit of Evidence is left on his desk in the last frame, after all the rest of the tragedy has unfolded.

And yeah, I'm seeing a tragic end for her in this particular scenario.
 
 
Perfect Tommy
22:28 / 28.06.01
quote:Some people (not including her) seem to be immune. These she finds even more terrifying, for the most part, than ordinary humans.
I'm starting to like the idea that for some reason, the people who are immune are for all intents and purposes invisible to the programmers. They don't fit the reprogramming, and so they don't exist. (I don't know whether they should be using this or not--are they a resistance force or just people with dental work which deflects mind-rays?)

So, if the mathematician is immune, the programmers CAN'T be aware of her (until plot twist X, perhaps). If she's 100% susceptible, she's too small a fish. But what seems more likely is she's in a twilight state: She is not immune to the programming, but she is AWARE of it in a way that no one else is (not even the immune folks).

Oh, and I'd like to go on the record that I'd be pissed if being crazy equalled immunity--I'm really tired of that particular "surprising" plot element, be it on Quantum Leap or Buffy or The Cube or, or, or...
 
 
the Fool
00:31 / 29.06.01
quote:Originally posted by Nick:

Why does it affect her personally, and why can she not simply be quietly eliminated?


'They' don't feel the need to eliminate her because 'they' felt they eliminated the danger her and her boyfriend posed by eliminating her boyfriend. They feel she was just his assistant and therefor not a threat to the project. When she dropped out of academic life after her boyfriend's collapse it confirmed their belief that she had no real input to the theory.

It could affect her personally (as in wanting to stop 'them') when she finds out that her boyfriend was poisoned rather that collapsing from the strain of the work...
 
 
ynh
04:51 / 29.06.01
So lets say the breakdown point, where the model gives up, is Reagan’s election or re-election, The release of Star Wars an the inauguration of movie-merchandising, or the publication of Chaos by James Gleick which gave the general public a new understanding of reality.

quote: Originally posted by Nick:
Someone is trying to rework the human programme...who? How many groups? What do they want? (I love grant's brainwashing-addicted controllers...)


The eventual discovery should be that, armed with new information, every individual is attempting to rewrite the programme, but groups of concentrated interest are interfering. They’re at each others’ throats because they believe they’re competing when it’s actually a democratic caucus that’s causing the unpredictability in general.

It would actually be weird if there weren’t some fascist-types involved. I’d love to see Reagan’s PR/Ad folks in on it: the people who made the “Some people say there’s a bear in the woods” ad who were weaned on very cynical politics. Reagan once sat down with them, saying: “I heard you were selling soap, and I thought you’d like to see the bar.” These folks want control, in a Burroughsian sense. They had access to the population/behavior models while the Gipper was in office and were shocked when it failed; they’re now trying to reassert meaningful action by developing control words, fast-cut advertisements, emotive music (like in The Demolished Man, the stuff that sticks in your head.) They’re actively attempting sci-fi stuff because they’re getting desperate and they have funding. They’re invested because they can’t do their job without predicting results.

Second group could be grant’s compromised resistance, a sort of shadowy Planetary-like body whose employees may even still think they’re saving the world from tyranny. They could actually be run by a group of Nobel laureates, populist musicians, Tim Leary… They’re going for the whole “free your mind” route whether you like it or not. They want to eliminate hate and intolerance at all costs, and they want to increase mental capacity. The compromised group is working toward something resembling the end of Childhood’s End, for lack of a suitable referent. What they don’t realize is that the breakdown of the model is because their superficial populist goal has been achieved, and the deeper control goal is doomed to fail. They have the model(s) because they’ve been infiltrated. Their successes using leaked information have disabled their critical thinking about where the money’s coming from.

Third group is pragmatic, classless, and anarchic. Managers of group activities rotate in a semi random fashion and get access to the behavior models one of the founders swiped from discussions available on SUNET when it was relatively hot math and being openly shared in the U-Cal community. They were using the models to control their own agents – subtle changes in environment and media to key public action from their members. Everything these people did looked spontaneous, and many actors are basically unaware or unaccountable for their actions, which include strengthening unions, land preservation, any number of things. They’re the newest group in the pod and had really only just finished testing the effectiveness of the models when they stopped working. They have big plans, and want to get on with them.

[ 29-06-2001: Message edited by: [Your Name Here] ]
 
 
Perfect Tommy
08:21 / 05.07.01
It's been nearly a week--do the new additions suck that much, Nick? =o
 
 
Wombat
11:46 / 06.07.01
Someone is trying to rework the human programme...who? How many groups? What do they want? (I love grant's brainwashing-addicted controllers...)

The brainwashing requires certain resources and is naturally addictive. The controllers are expanding their empire to get more of these resources and hence are brainwashing more and more people. Which in turn requires more resources.


Why does it affect her personally, and why can she not simply be quietly eliminated?

The model created by the maths girly and her boyfriend can detect the existence of the brainwashing. Hence the induction of madness in her boyfriend. The controllers models showed that she would become depressed and no longer a threat. They are keeping her around so she can be recruited under a false flag to produce a model with the brainwashing built in. They hope to maximise the amount of brainwashing they can access.

What can she do about it? Does she want to save it, take power, die?

Not much at the moment. She will be contacted by a 'freedom fighter` from the controllers who will encorage her to produce a new model and push her along the correct path.
 
 
grant
17:38 / 12.07.01
*WELL*???
Where's our AUTOCRATIC LEADER, HUH????
 
 
enough
18:23 / 12.07.01
WHat Happened??Did this thread ever truly exist???
 
 
the Fool
22:52 / 12.07.01
quote:Originally posted by run rabbit run:
WHat Happened??Did this thread ever truly exist???


I'm begining to think it is all part of a well organised neuromanipulative conspiracy cult bent on the collapse of consensual reality. When we all become god we are trapped in a realityhellsingularity. We become zero, time ends.
 
 
ynh
03:04 / 13.07.01
I'm betting nick got a strong enough plot out of it to just get it on paper and make money off our labour.
 
 
the Fool
03:22 / 13.07.01
So, are we like a virtual sweatshop?
 
 
enough
20:11 / 13.07.01
UH HUH.
 
 
enough
20:28 / 19.07.01
STILL NOTHING??
 
 
Templar
02:38 / 20.07.01
*sleepy*

What was the question again?
 
 
Wombat
08:19 / 20.07.01
Oh well. Fun while it lasted.
Anyone up for creating an ending to the film.
I wanna know how it turns out.
 
 
ynh
17:52 / 21.07.01
We all bomb Nick's flat.
 
 
Perfect Tommy
20:03 / 21.07.01
It only works with a cruel autocrat at the helm. Volunteers?
 
 
Rex City-zen
18:39 / 25.07.01
NICK!!
Get you ass back here and moderate this danm monster you started...sheesh.
 
 
08:38 / 10.08.01
quote:Originally posted by Wombat:
Oh well. Fun while it lasted.
Anyone up for creating an ending to the film.
I wanna know how it turns out.


Me too!

Are we going for an upbeat or downbeat ending, and if she can win, does she?

Personally, I rather like the idea that where she's previously been too small to worry about, when she comes to the Conspiracy's attention they just swat her. Very stark, but kind of effective, I think. Or do we want to give hope to the audience that they can break loose as well?
 
 
Wombat
08:51 / 10.08.01
How about we build her up to a point that it looks like she is about to win.

Then she gets swatted big time.
Her and all her plans are utterly destroyed.

An ending suggesting some kind of hope can be tacked on for states audiences.
 
 
08:51 / 10.08.01
quote:Originally posted by Wombat:
How about we build her up to a point that it looks like she is about to win.

Then she gets swatted big time.
Her and all her plans are utterly destroyed.


Yeah. I like that.

quote:Originally posted by Wombat:
An ending suggesting some kind of hope can be tacked on for states audiences.


Blade Runner all over again, huh?
 
 
08:51 / 10.08.01
How's this?

Having been quietly working through the research privately, she's worked out that she can produce a counter frequency that interrupts the control system. She's tried it under 'lab' conditions with one person at a time, and it works brilliantly. We see her moment of triumph as she realises the freedom she can restore to the world, and watch her preparing a minidisc or similar with the counter as background to a dance track for play at a nightclub, catching several hundred people at once and possibly starting the revolution (she hopes). We watch her get dolled up, head for the car, get in and start out for the club...

Then the car blows up. Nice big bang, obviously no survivors. No music, just background noises - roar of flames, etc. Hold shot for about fifteen seconds, panning round so we can just see her house in the background, also starting to burn. Fade to black, roll credits.

American Upbeat Ending could have the same shot, only without the burning house and a colleague finding her notes and a copy of the dance track on a disc.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
15:37 / 11.08.01
Ooookay. Nick has not run off to the Costa Del Sol on the proceeds of your sweat (sweet?) shop labour.

I've been taking a wee break to do some actual work. And now my barbelith addiction has come back to haunt me. Show some sympathy.

Nice to have new playmates here. I'm going to go through this and resume my gestapo-like creative control. As long as Teela doesn't kick my patriarchal ass.

Bless you all for caring. [sniff]
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
15:47 / 11.08.01
OOOOOkay.

We have too much information. Already. Which is no surprise. So: anyone who still cares, take what you wrote, or what someone wrote that you like, or a mix, or whatever, and thin it right down. Synopses of complete action, no longer than ten lines.

Postcard pitches, people. I am the scary capitalist studio boss. Convince me of the sexiness and completeness of our story. Make it simple, climactic, exciting.

Sample pitches:

"It's jaws with an alien on a spaceship" (Alien)

"It's Jaws With Paws" (Cujo, I think, though it may have been another dog movie."

"It's like Jaws with a shark." (Unnamed project which, amazingly, did get made, although the exec who pitched thus was fired.)
 
 
Wombat
10:42 / 13.08.01
It`s like the care bears with chaos theory.

(Sorry ...pub lunch)

[ 13-08-2001: Message edited by: Wombat ]
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
11:22 / 13.08.01
That's exactly what I'm afraid of. So let's have those postcards, folks.
 
 
grant
12:09 / 13.08.01
It's like The Truman Show crossed with Marathon Man -- damsel in distress meets sexy television conspiracy.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
00:56 / 10.04.02
*Bump*
 
  

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