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Racial Profiling at Airports

 
 
Ethan Hawke
13:10 / 14.09.01
Text of New York Times Article about Thursday's arrests at JFK and elsewhere:

quote:.B.I. Says Incidents at City Airports Not Linked to Attacks
By CLIFFORD J. LEVY and WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM






he F.B.I. said today that all but one of the people taken into custody on Thursday at Kennedy International and La Guardia Airports had been released and that none of those who had been detained had any connection with the terrorist attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

``The reporting that has been going on all night I can definitively tell you is inaccurate,'' Barry W. Mawn, the assistant F.B.I. director in charge of the New York office, told reporters at a news conference this morning.

``We were out at both airports last evening. We did talk to approximately a dozen individuals. We have only one individual left who is still being questioned by the task force; the other 10 have been released and have been on their way.''

Mr. Mawn said the one remaining man in custody was still being questioned. He did not elaborate, but other officials said privately that it was unrelated to the investigation into the terrorist attacks.

Authorities never identified any of those detained, but did say that they had suspected that one of them was holding a false pilot's license.

Officials said this morning that the man was indeed a pilot and that suspicion was aroused because of papers that the he had in his possesion, including a visa that was issued under another name.

As it turned out, the man was taking the papers to his brother in Boston, who coincidentally lived in the same building as three of the people suspected of involvement in the hijackings, a law enforcement official said.

The three major New York-area airports _ Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark International _ along with airports across the nation were reopened under heighten security on Thursday for the first time since the terrorist attacks. But soon after the New York airports reopened, they were abruptly shut again and law enforcement officials took the people into custody at Kennedy and LaGuardia.

Today Mr. Mawn said: ``All of the security departments of the various airlines are quickly reaching out for us in law enforcement if in fact there is any question as to identification and there's an over abundance of caution, which we are fine with.''

He added: ``To expedite some of this processing at least here in New York, and I believe this ought to implemented nationally at the major airports, is that law enforcement, in particular the F.B.I., will be stationed at the various airports here. In particular we're going to be at J.F.K. and LaGuardia.''

At least one of the 10 men detained Thursday was wearing an American Airlines crew uniform. He had tried on Tuesday to board a flight to Los Angeles around the time of the hijackings, only to become infuriated when it was canceled because of the explosions at the World Trade Center.

The incidents came on a nerve-wracking day in New York City, filled with bomb scares, mass transit disruptions and a sense of paralysis and fear. Schools and businesses reopened and the city struggled toward some semblance of normality.

But stores and train stations opened and closed sporadically and engineers tested buildings near the World Trade Center's ruins amid fear that they might collapse. At one point the entire borough of Staten Island was closed off in a manhunt for a suspect who turned out to be a phantom. In the incident at Kennedy on Tuesday morning, the flight was canceled just as passengers were beginning to board United Airlines Flight 23 to Los Angeles, investigators said.

``These guys got belligerent, and said something like, `We've got to be on this plane,''' an official said. ``They expressed a desire to remain on the plane and resisted getting off.''

The men, who appeared to be of Arab descent, then fled before they could be questioned by law enforcement officers, investigators said.

Shortly before the airports were shut down at 5 p.m., several law enforcement officers halted the boarding of an American Airlines flight that was about to depart from Kennedy for San Jose, Calif., which would have been one of the first planes out since Tuesday. A passenger said the officers closely questioned and searched about 15 people before announcing that the flight was canceled and the airport was closed for the night.

The officers scrutinized the identifications of the passengers, who were detained for at least two hours. ``Anyone with dark skin or who spoke with an accent was taken aside and searched,'' said the passenger, Mike Glass, 43, of Seattle. ``And then they went to any male with too much facial hair.''

Around the same time, at the American Airlines terminal at Kennedy, law-enforcement officers were seen detaining a man in handcuffs, with one officer examining his identification.

Airport officials would say only that the Federal Aviation Administration had halted all departures and most arrivals because of F.B.I. activity. The agency did allow planes that had already left other airports destined for the New York region to complete their flights.

The closing capped a tense day that provided a first glimpse of the future of air travel in the United States: heavily armed law enforcement officers of all kinds patrolled the three airports, baggage was aggressively searched, trash cans were removed to prevent bombs from being hidden in them, and restaurants in the terminals were barred from handing out knives _ even plastic ones.

At Newark International Airport, passengers reported that they were also ordered to leave the airport instead of waiting for their flights. Marilyn Hankins of Hope, N.J., and her friend Bill Kovach of Vernon, N.J., said they were about to board a Delta flight to Orlando about 5:30 p.m. Just as they entered the walkway to the plane, they were told to turn around.

``Well, at least our luggage made it to the airplane,'' Ms. Hankins said as she waited for her bags to be returned.

Others on the flight were determined to leave. Jaime Newman, 35, of Tuckahoe, N.Y., immediately booked another flight for this morningcq. ``I really want to get to Florida,'' she said, having planned to visit Disney World with a friend.

At La Guardia, Carmen Gil, 49, of Mexico City was wandering around the terminal Thursday night, trying to figure out where to go. She had hoped to fly home with her sister through Washington. ``We don't know what we're going to do,'' she said.

Until the closing, only a handful of arrivals and departures had been allowed at the three airports, leaving stranded passengers milling around with little information about when service would resume. Airport workers themselves seemed to have no idea.

There was no better symbol of the airports' rocky reopening than the constantly rejiggered lists of arrivals and departures on the television screens around the terminals, with flights being labeled canceled, only to have a departure time suddenly sprout, only to have it relabeled as canceled a few minutes later.

The atmosphere was so unsettled that the authorities evacuated a terminal at La Guardia in the early afternoon after a Saudi pilot trying to retrieve a bag he left there on Tuesday got into an argument with a worker. The pilot was questioned and released, the authorities said.



I don't know how I feel about this. If indeed all of the 18 hijackers in Tuesday's incidents were "men of arab descent", is it an onerous infringement on civil liberties for innocent "men o f arab descent" to be subjected to closer scrutiny in airports? To be sure, I'm not advocating automatic strip searches or detainment for any "men of arab descent" trying to get on a plane. But if they have to answer a few more questions, is that a horrible thing if they are innocent of any crime?

Additionally, from what I've read it seems a lot of the "arrests" and "Detainments" made were people disocvered in the course of the investigation to have expired immigration statuses. Is it a bad thing for the government to start strictly enforcing immigration laws and locating these people with expired statuses and either clarifying this or deporting them? Common sense says yes, that it would be impossible to do, but early reports indicate that some of the hijakcers were on the INS "watch" list. Could incidents be averted by stricter enforecemtn of existing immigration laws?
 
 
Verbal Kint
13:09 / 15.09.01
I am not sure it is a violation of civil rights, or that most people would really mind if they were there innocently.

I have had this happen to me in Britain. I am Welsh but look very Irish, and EVERY time I go through Heathrow I get stopped and talked to. I dont know if I look like someone or not, but it doesn't bother me all that much. The first time it happened I was a little freaked out, but after that it didn't bother me. Now, I realize that is WILL bother some people, and greatly offend yet others. But is that a small price to pay for perhaps catching someone who may do this again?

I don't know.

PPS: Just to clarify - I am talking about profiling in airports before boarding a plane, NOT general random profiling of the population.

[ 16-09-2001: Message edited by: Verbal Kint ]

[ 16-09-2001: Message edited by: Verbal Kint ]
 
 
The Packard Goose
17:43 / 15.09.01
If the branches of the government, both state and federal, decide to actually start enforcing the laws of the land, that's great. Arresting and deporting people who are in the country illegally seems like a good idea, regardless of 9/11.

But looking over some chatboards at AOL, I'm reading requests to "lock-down" the borders of the USA. Some people wrote pleas to deport anyone who is not at least a second-generation American. My best friend and my own father, who I never thought of as racist, who are both college-educated, middle-class suburbanites, have told me that we need to sweep through this country and get rid of everyone who wasn't born on US soil to American citizens.

Jingoism, xenophobia, racial profiling...if any of these were proven to be effective methods on stopping terrorism, I'd be all for them. But these would not have stopped Timothy McVeigh or Ted Kazcynski or most abortion clinic bombers. Would they have prevented 9/11? Maybe. But if the terrorists who committed this atrocity were/are as cunning/diabolical/brilliant as the "experts" insist, if they were so utterly determined to take thousnds of innocent lives with them as they committed suicide, then they would have found some way to do it. Lighter-skinned recruits who spoke flawless English, a nuclear or chemical/biological attack, whatever.

Things are rapidly getting out of hand in this country. After we deport or exterminate all of the Arabs and Muslims, how do we defend ourselves from Asian members of terrorist cults? From Zapatistas? From the IRA? Where does it end?

What happened on 9/11 was horrible, and I want to believe it was preventable, but I don't think profiling is the answer.
 
 
Slate
00:06 / 22.08.06
Racial profiling by the passengers! What would you do if you were told to get off the plane? I would go nucking futs! The guys went through security, the cabin crew were fine, BUT what the hell cocktail of drugs were the passengers on???
 
 
All Acting Regiment
13:52 / 22.08.06
Racial profiling is a bad idea, but unfortunately it's an attractive one to people who either can't or don't want to think it through.

It's entirely obvious that any group could get round it by sending in unexpected types of people, or training people to behave in a certain fashion, or even sending people in as mechanics or maintenace workers instead of passengers. It's also entirely obvious that a lot of people would get (rightly) pissed off if they were banned from going on planes, and it's also entirely obvous that it sets a precedent for treating group X badly.
 
 
Dead Megatron
18:50 / 22.08.06
But these would not have stopped Timothy McVeigh or Ted Kazcynski or most abortion clinic bombers

Well, keep in mind the current admnistration may actually agree with abortion clinic bombers (and homophobic hate criminals as well). Plus, they are not an obstacle to the interests of Oil Companies and Republican SUV-driving Christian fundamentalists.

But I'm being sarcastic and not adding anything useful to this thread. I apologise
 
 
Axolotl
18:55 / 22.08.06
Besides the obvious moral problems raised by racial profiling, the other huge and rather obvious one is that it won't work.
If these terrorists are intent on striking at the western world, and they are so determined and cunning that the only way we can win is by letting John Reid come round each of our houses and snoop around, then don't you think that they might manage to evade this racial profiling by working out who is likely to be stopped under the profiling system and getting someone who doesn't match to carry out an attack?
 
 
grant
12:54 / 01.09.06
This is what a terrorist looks like.
 
 
Olulabelle
13:50 / 01.09.06
I like this from the article on the holidaymakers:

Muslim Council of Britain boss Muhammad Abdul Bari said last night: "While it is sensible for all of us to be vigilant, it is not sensible to pick on Muslims simply because they happen to dress differently or appear to be speaking to each other in Arabic."
 
 
spectre
13:59 / 01.09.06
another wrinkle in the racial profiling debate is the the fluidity of "race" in general, and the fact that the people who run airport security search 100s of people a day and have to make split second decisons on who gets scrutinized and who does not. In a country as racially mixed as america, pretty much everyone has one or two characteristics that make them look suspicious.

Case in point: I am a white, blue-eyed male with a somewhat "swarthy" complexion. I dress in a very stereotypically "american" fashion. I also used to have a large beard. I have to travel a lot, and when I had the beard, EVERY SINGLE TIME I went through security, I got searched, thouroughly. I shaved the beard, and never got searched again. Look persian = suspicion. Look like T. Mcveigh = ignored.

When they have no choice but to "shoot from the hip" like this, it only takes one or two "flags" to become suspicious of a person. I feel this takes away from the actual efficency of the security, not to mention the absurdity of profiling based on visual cues. I mean, come on, a terrorist isn't going to walk into customs with a giant, flashing neon sign that says "Death to America!", is he/she? This is just another symptom the US's paranoid, conflict-based policy.

I know im probably just ranting at this point, but this stuff really bothers me. Why does it seem that the US population as a whole seems okay with watching their civil rights erode in the name of increased security (especially when, I feel, security isn't really being increased at all).
 
 
grant
12:34 / 06.09.06
Uh huh.
Uh huhuhuh.

Uh huhuhuhuhuhuhuh.

Hasidic Jew removed from airplane for praying.

"He was clearly a Hasidic Jew," said Yves Faguy, a passenger seated nearby. "He had some sort of cover over his head. He was reading from a book.

"He wasn't exactly praying out loud but he was lurching back and forth," Faguy added.

The action didn't seem to bother anyone, Faguy said, but a flight attendant approached the man and told him his praying was making other passengers nervous.

"The attendant actually recognized out loud that he wasn't a Muslim and that she was sorry for the situation but they had to ask him to leave," Faguy said.

The man, who spoke neither English nor French, was escorted off the airplane.


Uh huhuhuhuh. Uhuh.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
11:40 / 07.09.06
Dear, dear.
 
 
Elettaria
20:05 / 16.09.06
Ach. They were fussing about prayer? Tell you what is offensive, though. I flew to Israel from London for my cousin's wedding last July, and when I tried to get to my seat a problem arose. Two Chasidic men were in the row I and another woman were meant to be sitting in, and they wouldn't let us sit there because they refused to sit next to a woman. I mean, we could have been menstruating or something, and that's before you get to the problem that I'm an evil nasty queer feminist Liberal Jew who does unwomanly things like wear a kippa [skullcap] and tallit [prayer shawl, I made it myself and it's very pretty] and takes uppity roles in synagogue like singing the Kol Nidre - shit, it's in a few weeks, I'd better start practising. Anyway, after much arguing with the air stewards in Hebrew, which I don't speak, they were moved to another row, and I was left to explain to the poor girl, who wasn't Jewish and had no idea what had just happened, what was going on, why we were considered untouchable, and that most Jews don't actually follow this, thankfully. This was also after I'd had a lecture from a Chasidic woman who was one of the disabled passengers, mostly along the lines of, "You're 27 and don't have a husband and children yet? But you have no life!"

My cousin has been strip-searched for a terrorist, he evidently looks the part. English by birth, Israeli by upbringing, and if you want to know the quickest way to describe him, my mother once rang a carpentry shop he was in and just told the shop owner to call over the guy who looked like Jesus. The guy got him immediately. Well, Jesus was Jewish, and I suppose he was quite a radical, though hardly a terrorist.

I haven't used a wheelchair in an airport for a year, mostly because they screw you over from here to December if you try (nearly missed a flight once), but I've done it enough times to notice a major security problem. If you're booked for wheelchair assistance, you're expected to make your own way from the entrance to check-in even if you can't possibly lift your luggage, and then to the disabled pick-up point. They'll assume that you can walk up and down the stairs to the aircraft unless you kick up a big fuss and insist on the lift thingy, and it's exceedingly rare that anyone needs to use a wheelchair on the plane itself, I've only ever seen one. However, once you're being ferried around the airport in a wheelchair, you are clearly incapable of walking a step, let alone the two or three required to get you through the metal detector. They simply wheel you through, the wheelchair sets off the metal detector, and then they ask if you're in any pain and pat you down gingerly in a very basic way. I could have had an 8" knife down my back, never mind anything more sophisticated (and I've seen my other cousin get through a metal detector while wearing a gun, so I'm not too impressed by them). The only time I was searched properly was by El Al, who have fantastic security and managed to find a small piece of paper in my pocket. They should really insist that people get a medical certificate to prove that they can't walk a step if that's the case, otherwise make them get up for the metal detector. Some day a wannabe terrorist is going to notice the loophole and simply ask for a wheelchair, that's all you have to do.
 
  
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