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The Knowledge +1
09:39 / 06.12.01
Elbow: Asleep in the back
Radiohead: Kid A
David Bowie: The Nathan Aldar Diaries
Tricky: Blowback
Jurassic 5 LP

Discuss.
 
 
RadJose
09:39 / 06.12.01
the only underrated album on there is Jurassic 5, tho i wouldn't call the rest over rated, but just as rated as they need be, then again i you can't count "Elbow" in what i just said cuz i've never heard of them

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: radjose ]
 
 
De Selby
09:39 / 06.12.01
I have to agree with Radjose here.... Kid A underrated?

What about

Black Lung - The Wonderful and Frightening World of Black Lung
Ed Rush and Optical - The Creeps

they're both fooken great, but never got the acclaim they deserved.

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: Alex Gein ]
 
 
[N.O.B.O.D.Y.]
09:39 / 06.12.01
Kid A underrated? That cd must be the one of the most overrated ones EVER!!!! As with most of Radiohead stuff, media built a huge hype around it, and it sure was necessary because if it weren't for that hype they wouldn't have sold anything.
I suppose that you are talking about Outside when you say "The Nathan Aldar Diaries"; that one has a great production, but it's almost painful to listen to such a boring record. And it sure doesn't help that the project is so pretentious it puts Pink Floyd to shame.
Underrated...the ones that come to my mind right now:
- Dust by Screaming Trees
- Anything by Big Star (well maybe not underrated but I'm sure it's unfairly ignored)
- Cualquiera Puede Cantar by Los Autenticos Decadentes
- Second Coming by The Stone Roses
- Most of Jonathan Richman's solo career

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: [N.O.B.O.D.Y.] -Thank You C.A.B.J.- ]
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
09:39 / 06.12.01
I LUUURVE Outside.
and I'd add
New Model Army- Eight
The Legendary Pink Dots- The Maria Dimension
Current 93- All The Pretty Little Horses
Tattooed Beat Messiah- Zodiac Mindwarp & the Love Reaction (one of the greatest, no fucking around, balls-out RAWK!!! albums of all time)
and
Into A Circle- Assassins (see?)
 
 
rizla mission
14:10 / 06.12.01
The Elbow record - 10 out of 10 reviews, promotional display's in HMV, sell out tour of reasonably large venues, just rated 11th best album of the year by NME. Underrated I don't fucking think.

good topic though.

Dead Kennedys - Frankenchrist
One of the most underrated albums ever. People only ever mention it because of the the obscenity court case, but it's a blindingly good record in it's own right.

Belly - Star / King
Why doesn't anyone talk about Belly anymore? They were groovy.
 
 
deja_vroom
14:29 / 06.12.01
Angel Dust - Faith No More
 
 
Ethan Hawke
15:16 / 06.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Rizla Year Zero:


Belly - Star / King
Why doesn't anyone talk about Belly anymore? They were groovy.


Hah! In total agreement with you Riz. I was even going to post this. Tanya Donnelly wrote some great songs. King was even better than Star, but sank without a trace. I never bought her solo joint (heh) though. Never even heard it.
 
 
Rev. Wright
15:47 / 06.12.01
'Listen here wolf child....'
I am the original Tattooed Beat Messiah.
well only for a limited duration whilst high on drugs and finding warm places to push my genitals into.

ZODIAC MINDWARP are totally underated, as are;
Waiwan's first album
Audioweb, Audioweb
Puressence
Lionrock, An Instinct for Detection
Creaming Jesus, Too Fat to Run, Too Stupid Too hide
Depth Charge, Lust and Lust2
Waveform's first album

'....We shall be drunk on stars....'

'....defy the logic of alphabets....'

'....I have slain the King of the Wolves,
Nothing is impossible!'
(some fave soundbites from the opening of Tattooed Beat Messiah)
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:56 / 06.12.01
Although Kid A is wrongfully maligned by some people, and is in my opinion the best record Radiohead have done, I think it's a long way from "under-rated" given the gushing mindless praise that album recieved when it was released.

Has anyone here ever read that Pitchfork review? I mean, REALLY!
 
 
Not Here Still
17:40 / 06.12.01
Originally posted by N.O.B.O.D.Y. etc -

- Second Coming by The Stone Roses

Not underrated, but overhyped, perhaps?

Comes nowhere near the first album, and by taking five years (and three tonnes of coke) to make, never would anyway. I still like it, but Jesus Wept, could someone tell John Squire the tune ended about 20 minutes before his solo?

My votes:

Cornershop: Woman's Gotta Have It

Not so much for 'underrated album' status, as for 'underrated single', for the wonderous, raga-rock beauty which is '6am Jullander Shere'

Hardkiss: Delusions of Grandeur

Wonderful West Coast of America band, sound a little like Orbital if you're looking for an easy reference point, but more like Harkiss. They have some fine songs on this double album, which is dance music full of instrumentation and ideas. They were also one of the few acts to remix Elton john and make him sound not only listenable, but close to genius.

The Boo Radleys: Kingsize

An album so underrated the band split up after recording it because of the lack of recognition they were getting. Full of wonderous, life affirming songs - my first read of the Invisibles, three years ago, was soundtracked by this and it fitted perfectly.

'High As Monkeys' and 'Kingsize' come highly recommended - as does everything else they've done, although you probably remember them for a GMTV theme. Martin Carr - the main songwriter - now records as Brave Captain with SFA producer Gorwel Owen.

which leads nicely on to -

Super Furry Animals: Mwng

Just because it's in Welsh doesn't stop it rocking. And the cover is damn cool, too...
 
 
[N.O.B.O.D.Y.]
19:01 / 06.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Not Me Again:
Originally posted by N.O.B.O.D.Y. etc -

- Second Coming by The Stone Roses

Not underrated, but overhyped, perhaps?



I think it's seriously underrated. People always bash it because of the long time it took and cause the first one was really great... After several times, I had to admit that I liked it, and it didn't deserve all the bad criticism it received. But that's my opinion.

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: [N.O.B.O.D.Y.] -Thank You C.A.B.J.- ]

[ 08-12-2001: Message edited by: [N.O.B.O.D.Y.] -Thank You C.A.B.J.- ]
 
 
Cop Killer
06:50 / 07.12.01
Every album by Judas Priest is underrated, especially Painkiller, where Halford give King Diamond a run for his money.
 
 
The Strobe
06:50 / 07.12.01
Electronic - Twisted Tenderness

So laugh at me already.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
06:50 / 07.12.01
I must incur laughter by saying that (their teen fanbase aside), Rammstein's Mutter is pretty underrated. Most reviews say it's dire Germano-drone metal - which it is, to a certain extent - but it's more rock than Mt Rushmore. In the good, healthy, bigger-than-you variety, not in a weedy low-fi sense. Riffs ahoy, huge production, and songs about test-tube babies and guys that shoot light out of their eyes. I mean - come ON! It's KMFDM - but this time, with balls!

Everyone should be tied to a chair and made to listen to "Sonne", frankly.
I'll get me coat.
 
 
Prisoner no. 1300
10:37 / 07.12.01
How about Butthole Surfers - Electriclarryland.

This was accused of being a load of MTV crap, but some of the songs are feasibly good. Anyway, compare it to their new album, which is awful - there you go, then. Anyway, their earlier work is quite often overrated, so there. And if you're going to call them a bunch of corporate fakers - a fair assessment - then you can always pick up the album burned or second hand.

Ministry - Filth Pig
This album was genius! They pulled off a record that sounded like Slayer but WASN'T a stupid load of incoherence, and for that I utterly salute them. Not sho shure about Dark Side Of The Fucking Spoon, though. I reckon that LP deserved the crap reviews it got.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
10:56 / 07.12.01
I too have become a bit of a Rammstein fanbirl, but since this is entirely Rothkoid's fault I am happy to shunt the responsibility over to him. Saw them live on Sunday and now I can never listen to anything but operatic Teutonic robometal again.

Having said which - I agree that 'Mwng' is a work of genius. Also buried under mounds of indifference is Gorky's Zygotic Mynci's 'Tatay', the last fully Welsh-language LP they made, which is less consciously pastoral than their later stuff and, I think, has better tunes.
 
 
suds
11:10 / 07.12.01
i know i am arriving late in the conversation, but if i don't point out that radiohead's album kid a was so not underrated in any way, i shall quite feasibly explode.
radiohead are one of the most rated bands i have seen in the last few years. i hate it when people start going on about radiohead being underrated. hello, they are affluent white males who are adored by select (r.i.p), nme, and rolling stone alike.
what about the d.i.y. punk grrl bands who are totally *ignored* by the music press?
that's what i'd call underrated.
not kid fucking a.
thank-you.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:15 / 07.12.01
There's a question of perspective here, isn't there - I mean, Le Tigre's Feminist Sweepstakes is one of the most underrated albums of this year in my opinion, but if you asked someone who was really into obscure punk/DIY-style grrl bands, they'd probably say Le Tigre were really overrated...

But yes, it's hard to see Kid A as underrated by any stretch of the imagination.
 
 
suds
11:22 / 07.12.01
thanks flyboy. i thought my post was a little bit too 'pmt-and-i'm having a heard time at the moment' addled.
i am in a pissy mood as it is and hearing someone say a best selling whiteboy band's album which was 'critically aclaimed' was 'underrated' really fuelled my fire!
and as well as 'feminst sweepstakes' by le tigre, we got albums by bitch and animal, haggard and the gossip that most of the music press (especially you, nme!) won't even bother to review. pah.

ps the knowledge: the nme won't shut up about elbow! what are you talking about?!

[ 07-12-2001: Message edited by: suds ]
 
 
The Knowledge +1
11:49 / 07.12.01
Elbow and Radiohead hardly ever feature in the top ten, Elbow aren't known by the vast majority of my friends here in Wales, and whilst they may be critically acclaimed, they don't sell anywhere near your Britneys or your eminems. I'd venture that underrated = less sales than they deserve, according to their quality, which is, of course, all subjective.

Pauls Boutique - Beastie Boys
New Forms and In The Mode - Roni Size + rep
St Germain - Tourist
Fluke - Risotto
Crystal Method - Vegas (My FAV album - Spy beats and funky drops - The ULTIMATE invisibles soundtrack !?!)
Beth Orton - Central Reservation
Tori Amos - From the choirgirl hotel
Air - Moon Safari
Cassius - 1999
Mos Def - Black on both sides
LL Cool J - Mr Smith (One for listening to, gentlemen, if you wish to get your lady in the mood)
De La Soul is dead
Reef - Replenish
Gomez - First album
Page and Plant- Walking into Clarksdale
Prince - Diamonds and pearls
Swingers soundtrack
 
 
The Knowledge +1
11:50 / 07.12.01
b

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suds
11:52 / 07.12.01
while elbow and radiohead may not be in the top ten, the knowledge, you can guarentee that the nme is going to review their albums, give them interviews...admit they exist.
le tigre, sleater-kinney, the haggard and bitch and animal haven't appeared in the paper.
i like the beastie boys as much as anyone, but they are certainly not underrated. they headlined reading festival, for chrissakes.
and ll cool j is a knob.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
11:54 / 07.12.01
Odd definition of under-rated there, K+1. I don't think it has much to do with sales - more to do with critical reaction (that'd be the 'rated' part). In fact, the opposite of what you think... But even using your definition, I don't think 'Moon Safari' (e.g.) could be said to have sold a small number of copies - it's in practically every lounge in SE England.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:54 / 07.12.01
Hmmm. On the one hand, like I said: perspective. On the other hand: Knowledge, Radiohead's albums sell ridiculously well. In fact so do their singles, when they bother to release them.
 
 
The Knowledge +1
12:09 / 07.12.01
Ah yes, flyboy. I've been meaning to kill you for some time...
 
 
Cop Killer
20:07 / 07.12.01
Alrite, anyways, I don't see Sleater-Kinney as underrated, not saying that they aren't a good band, but they do get reviewed in major press mags (Rolling Stone, Spin, A.P.) and they are good reviews. Now, me, I come from Chicago, where all the good, cutting edge bands from here are highly underrated. The Jesus Lizard are one of the most inventive aggressive punk bands out there (the best way to describe them is a Tool less influenced by heavy metal and more influenced by the Sex Pistols) but I rarely hear anyone talk about them. Loraxx is another Chicago band that takes a similar approach to their music, except with a female vocalist and a bit more aggressive music (sorta like a Jesus Lizard more influenced by Minor Threat than the Sex Pistols, with a female vocalist). The bands that actually break through from the Chicagoland area are usually crap (with the exception of Cheap Trick and a few others). And the bands that I would like to see break, the Poster Children, Shellac (not that Shellac would ever become huge, it's a nice thought I have though...), the two afformentioned bands, the Arrivals, etc. seem to be doomed to relative obscurity. Sorry if I'm not making any sense here, that happens some times. And I really only wanted this post to be a couple of sentences, but then it blew up.
 
 
RadJose
06:20 / 08.12.01
i just wanna second Cop Killer by sayin' how underrated the Poster Children are, man whatta band! i'd venture to say in the US that Bis are underrated however it doesn't seem to be that way in the UK... i'd also add the Aquabats to the list and like to say the new Presedents of the United States of America CD (Freaked & Small) came out under even my geek rock radar and TOTALLY is the best CD they've put out!
 
 
Prisoner no. 1300
14:44 / 09.12.01
I'm a young, dumb wanker but I reckon LARD's first proper album was almost defnutly underrated. Either way, it's got to be more underrated than Elbow. What was he on about there?
 
 
rizla mission
08:39 / 10.12.01
quote:Originally posted by radjose:
i'd venture to say in the US that Bis are underrated however it doesn't seem to be that way in the UK...


It IS that way in the UK - the hatred that people seem to have for Bis is insane - I've almost been attacked for wearing s Bis T-Shirt..

But that just makes liking them cooler really, doesn't it.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
18:42 / 11.12.01
<sigh> Don't get me started...
 
 
that
19:28 / 11.12.01
These are, perhaps, more over-looked than underrated, so I apologise in advance for compromising the integrity of this thread... and, oh yeah, I should say straightaway that I don't read any of the music papers, so please excuse me if I am talking shite...

Tripping Daisy's 'i am an elastic firecracker'. The singer sounds like Greg Proops, man, what more could you possibly want? And yet, I never hear anything about them...

Pigeonhed's 'The Full Sentence', perhaps? They don't exactly seem to crop up in conversation a whole lot, either, though they did appear on the soundtrack of 'Very Bad Things'. That album is very eclectic, from Prince-does-Nirvana to inexpressibly gorgeous songs about the afterlife, and a lot of it is pretty damn cool...

Bruce Springsteen's 'The Ghost of Tom Joad'. And yes, I am entirely serious. This just seemed to slip by unnoticed...but it is fantastic, quiet, depressive, countryfied, and other adjectives as well. Afternoon music, or dead-of-night music - the two are often surprisingly close...

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Regrettable Juvenilia
07:51 / 12.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Cholister:
Tripping Daisy's 'i am an elastic firecracker'. The singer sounds like Greg Proops, man, what more could you possibly want? And yet, I never hear anything about them...


Fuck, this rings a bell... Someone I know used to play this all the time, and I found it really irritating at first but gradually it grew on me. Remind me how some of the songs go again?

quote:Bruce Springsteen's 'The Ghost of Tom Joad'. And yes, I am entirely serious. This just seemed to slip by unnoticed...but it is fantastic, quiet, depressive, countryfied, and other adjectives as well. Afternoon music, or dead-of-night music - the two are often surprisingly close...

You are so right. 'Youngstown' is probably my favourite Springsteen song. This album's got all the classic Springsteen stuff: they've closed down the mill/factory and the blue collar community is going to shit, and I can't get a decent job cos I'm half-Mexican and I just got out of jail, and I need to feed my wife and baby daughter, so I guess I'll have to turn to crime again...

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Compact
07:54 / 12.12.01
Some of the reocrds put out on Dorado Outside:The rough and the smooth and on Grand Central Records Aim:Cold water music are prertty good, but don't often get a look in. Also Bola on Skam records
 
 
Sauron
07:57 / 12.12.01
quote:Originally posted by radjose:
the only underrated album on there is Jurassic 5,

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: radjose ]


I totally disagree, I think this album is massiveley OVER rated- go to any Electic Chair nite for prooof. Lazy rhymes, lazy beats - not too clever by half.

Great easy listening Hip Hop, but it doesn't deserve in the respect it receives on the concrete streets ...
 
  

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