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I don't know, kids today...

Ria

14:49 / 07.07.01

check it, peeps...

in one of my local thrift shops today I observed two adolescent males (17ish in age) rifling through old LP's. I don't remember what one of them looked like but one had the clean neo-hippy look. (short but not crewcut hair, a necklace, sandals...) out of the LP's I saw them purchase they picked out:

-- one by Boston

-- one by the Steve Miller Band

-- another by... Billy Joel

what. the. fugging. hell.

Locust No longer

17:11 / 07.07.01

It reminds me of that scene in High Fidelity where they catch those kids stealing records. Scary.

rizla mission

18:09 / 07.07.01

maybe they were buying presents for their grandparents? ... he says hopefully

Or maybe they were DJ-type characters looking for deliberately crap records to sample/take the piss out of..

Cherry Bomb

00:49 / 08.07.01

In my neck o' the woods, it's like some sort of rite of passage to go through what's known as the "Liking that 'Steve Miller's Greatest Hits' album" phase. Hopefully they'll grow out of it.

Me, I still like "Movin' Out" and I don't care who knows it.

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

03:31 / 08.07.01

Kristalyne, it's called "nostalgia for crap you didn't have to live through when it was happening so of course it seems camp and kitsch to you, but you didn't have to listen to it all the damned time."

Hope that helps.

Margin Walker

15:45 / 08.07.01

Let's hope they were late for a skeet trap shoot and needed to find targets--fast. Simply put, I can't imagine anyone under 20 ever loving, of all things, Boston. Damn, that's some wack shit!!

mondo a-go-go

17:28 / 08.07.01

last night i found an old tape with billy joel by blood sausage on it. if you don't know the genius of this song and wanna hear it, post me in the mix tapes thread coz it's ace... (as is fuck you and your underground...)

Ria

20:07 / 08.07.01

ironic interest? no. these kids didn't looked as straight and as sincere as you can get. help old ladies cross the streets types.

and, oh yes, on tv in 1985 I saw a short and hilarious clip of Billy Joel doing a hardcore punk version of one of his own songs (hilariously).

I would call him less bad than a lot of that lot. but to volunteer money and time to listen to it...? y'know?

[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: Kriztalyne ]

No star here laces

05:22 / 09.07.01

Hey, don't be knocking Steve Miller - man is a god. Hip hop is deeply indebted to some of his records, and 'Dance dance dance' is the best end to a night you can get...

"My grandpaw he's ninety five, and he keeps on dancing he's still alive"

But seriously - some of the reason you'll see people picking up those kind of tunes is cos they've heard them sampled and they want to get the originals. Major labels have even started releasing compilations with names like 'Sampled' so that the kids can find out that the piano riff from Morales' 'Needing you' is originally from Rare Pleasure's 'Let me down easy' and that kind of thing...

Euch, also, guess what my flatmate saw the other day: "The best Northern Soul album in the world... ever!"

Ganesh

05:48 / 09.07.01

What, 'kids today' failing to meet their elders' expectations re: choice of music?

%That's never happened before...%

Graham the Happy Scum

13:53 / 09.07.01

Weird. It wasn't Steve Miller with me, it was more like Robert Palmer's greatest hits... "Doctor, doctor, gimme the news, I've got a bad case of loving you..."

Ooh yeah.

Ria

18:34 / 09.07.01

how would the kids know what music later musicians sampled from? do they talk about this in the liner notes to the record? I don't know who did the original of a cover version of a song unless I already knew the song covered.

kidding aside it does bother me that the classic rock format does (if it does) influences kids into listening to the same culturally and emotionally anesthetizing loop of popular music from around 1965 to around 1975 bothers me deeply. this store, a Goodwill, plays this as does the other Goodwill a few towns over. this same loop of music has gone around since 1985 or so.

not trying to keep this thread going for the sake of it, honestly.

Ganesh

18:47 / 09.07.01

Isn't it in the 'kid' job description to be into music which confounds their elders, one way or another?

Unencumbered

19:16 / 09.07.01

quote:Originally posted by Ganesh:
Isn't it in the 'kid' job description to be into music which confounds their elders, one way or another?

It is. I like Lemmy's definition of good music: if your parents don't like it, it's good.

rizla mission

08:22 / 10.07.01

But I don't suppose Lemmy had to cope with that ugly phenomenon - trendy parents.

The Return Of Rothkoid

10:53 / 10.07.01

Speaking of Lemmy, has anyone seen the Kit-Kat advert that he's in? Typical Lemmy, only he's playing a violin. It's genius, surpassed only by the Daleks that chase people down the street, intoning "We love you! Give us a hug!".

No star here laces

11:39 / 10.07.01

No, the best bit in that ad by far has to be Bernard Manning doing the washing up in a frilly apron and telling his wife to invite her mother round for dinner.

Ria

18:08 / 10.07.01

better bad new music than bad old music.

Ganesh

18:16 / 10.07.01

quote:Originally posted by Kriztalyne:
better bad new music than bad old music.

<sigh>

For Zen's sake, I won't even start to argue...

Lothar Tuppan

18:37 / 10.07.01

quote:Originally posted by Cherry Bomb:

Me, I still like "Movin' Out" and I don't care who knows it.

"52nd Street" was a great album

Ierne

19:12 / 10.07.01

it does bother me that the classic rock format does (if it does) influences kids into listening to the same culturally and emotionally anesthetizing loop of popular music from around 1965 to around 1975...– Kriztalyne

It bothers me too. When I was a teenager we had about 3 radio stations in NYC with the EXACT SAME playlist!!!!!

So of course most of the kids in my High Skool dug the Classic Rock scenario because that's all they were exposed to. Then there was WSOU for Metal and WLIR for New Wave and THAT WAS IT.

It's just playing safe for the advertisers. Radio in NYC isn't much better nowadays, either.

Ria

17:23 / 11.07.01

back in the early '80's the local commercial alt rock station (before the coining of this term) would play music as diverse as Roger Waters and reggae until by 1985 (at a guess) their format had frozen and they played a much narrower range of material. around that time an indy video channel called V66 tried to compete with MTV (they played commercials when MTV ISTR) didn't. they died a few years later.

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