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DJing with MP3s

 
 
Matthew Fluxington
19:54 / 02.03.02
I'm DJing tonite. Please come by if you can - it should be a lot of fun. Take the L train to Dekalb/Wykoff, the party is at 97 Wykoff, 3rd floor.

[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: Tom Coates ]
 
 
The Apple-Picker
03:31 / 03.03.02
The L train.... How far does that line run? Columbus?

I'll be right there!
 
 
bio k9
04:11 / 03.03.02
So, how did it go?
 
 
rizla mission
10:11 / 03.03.02
Obviously I can't come by, being on the other side of the world and all, but what did you play out of interest? and how'd it go down?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:26 / 03.03.02
The full report is on my blog, but here's the setlist, cut and pasted so you can view it here:

Michael Jackson Vs. Q-Tip/ Crossover "Extensive Care"/ Le Tigre "Deceptacon"/ Lupine Howl "Vaporizor"/ George Michael Vs. Missy Elliott/ The Beatles Vs. DMX/ Nirvana Vs. Destiny's Child/ Gold Chains "Rock The Parti" (floor clearer - aborted halfway. I wanted to cry.)/ The Strokes Vs. Christina Aguilera/ D-12 Vs. Depeche Mode/ Peaches "Lovertits"/ Beasties Vs. Britney (Crazy/Body Movin)/ Prince Vs. Daft Punk/ Gorillaz "19-2000 (soulchild remix)"/ Michael Jackson "Smooth Criminal" vs. Kylie/ Grandmaster Flash Vs. Blackstreet/ Busta Rhymes Vs. Missy Vs. Ol Dirty Bastard/ Eminem Vs. Britney/ Cylob "Rewind (DMX Krew remix)"/ Madonna Vs. Young MC/ Missy Vs. O'Jays Vs. Happy Mondays/ Gonzales "Take Me To Broadway"/ Lynnfield Pioneers "Time To Get Dumb"/ Ol Dirty Bastard Vs. Will Smith/ Chicks On Speed "For All The Boys In The World" (aborted halfway)/ Wilbur Bascomb and the Zodiac "Just A Groove In G"/ ESG "My Love For You"/ Lee Rogers "I Want You To Have Everything"/ Sugar Pie Desanto "Go Go Power"/ Billy Hambric "She Said Goodbye"/ Spanky Wilson "The Sunshine Of Your Love"/ Eddie Bo "Check Your Bucket"/ Tobi Lark "Challenge My Love"/ Fun Company "Zambezi"/ Ike and Tina Turner "Bold Soul Sister"/ Johnny Williams "My Baby's Good"/ James Brown "There Was A Time"/ Stevie Wonder "I Was Made To Love Her"/ Syl Johnson "Dresses Too Short"/ Kim Weston "Rock Me A Little While"/ Otis Redding "Love Man"/ Gloria Jones "Tainted Love"/ The Supremes "Where Did Our Love Go?"/ The Vibrettes "Humpty Dump"/ Caesar Frazier "Funk It Up" The Esquires "Get On Up"/ Rufus Thomas "Can Your Monkey Do The Dog?"/ Mike Viner's Incredible Bongo Band "Apache"/ Ronn Feaster "Don't Laugh In My Face and Steal My Man"/ Jay-Z "I Just Want To Love You"/ Outkast "So Fresh, So Clean"/ Wu-Tang Clan "Gravel Pit"/ Beasties Vs. Britney (Intergalactic/One More Time)/ Loose Joints "Is It All Over My Face?"/ The Kingsmen "Louie Louie"/ Detroit Cobras "Village of Love"/ The Slits "I Heard It Through The Grapevine"/ The B-52's "Rock Lobster"/ Clinic "The Equaliser"/ Primal Scream "Shoot Speed Kill Light"
 
 
autopilot disengaged
15:31 / 03.03.02
soundz fluxtacular.
 
 
Ierne
18:56 / 03.03.02
Aw Flux! You must have posted this Friday night after I left work...I would have loved to check it out.

Especially this part of your set:

Ike and Tina Turner "Bold Soul Sister"/ Johnny Williams "My Baby's Good"/ James Brown "There Was A Time"/ Stevie Wonder "I Was Made To Love Her"/ Syl Johnson "Dresses Too Short"/ Kim Weston "Rock Me A Little While"/ Otis Redding "Love Man"/ Gloria Jones "Tainted Love"/

Definitely keep us posted as to your future spinning exploits!!!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:33 / 04.03.02
SHHHHHOOOOT SPEED KILL LIGHT!

This is really of interest to me, because I have no vinyl but would love to DJ some time soon - Flux, how easy is it to DJ with MP3s?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
09:53 / 04.03.02


Flux, how easy is it to DJ with MP3s?
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Well, it could be a lot easier than how I did it last night, but it's not that hard. Last night, I brought in four cd-r discs full of MP3s as data files (as opposed to being listenable playable music files). I was running them off manually without any sort of crossfading mp3 DJing program on a PC that was wired through a traditional DJ setup (the two guys before me were spinning vinyl) and playing through a regular P.A.

It wasn't so bad - a few awkward silences between tracks, I had to cut off some songs during their fade-outs, others that were going on too long and I wanted to move on, I just selected another track and played. Not very graceful, but effective.

I wish that I had my entire MP3 library available... there were lots of songs I wish I could have played that I didn't have, and lots of songs that I did bring that didn't quite suit the crowd. Still, as it was, I had enough leftover unplayed songs that I really could have gone another two hours if I had to.

I'm hoping to get a laptop at some point in the future, but I have no idea when that could be, particularly given my current unemployment. In that case, I would have a big library of tracks, and have a DJ crossfading program going, so it'd all be quite seamless.

I was glancing at an article in the newest issue of Urb about how there's an emerging trend in hip hop DJs moving in this direction, because it's so much more cost effective. Personally, I see no reason as to why I SHOULD be DJing vinyl - a great deal of what I want to play either is extremely rare or not even existing in vinyl form, my entire record collection is digital/cd, and I have the limitless crate of the internet to dig through. It's the way of the future, I think.

I really wanted to play that Gravy Train song you recommended in the Song Pimpin' Club, by the way Fly ... never did find a proper time to slip it in.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
09:53 / 04.03.02
i can't believe chicks on speed was a floor clearer! and that's their best fucking track on top. motherfuckers.

i've screwed around with some mixing software, it's great you can match all the beats and tracks and set it all up to go - -boom.

i agree that mp3s are the fucking way. i've been trying to set myself up a gig doing that same thing out here. obviously the truly skillful turntabilisits will be rightly scornful - -they do so much more -- but if yr just going to throw together track you like, may as well just run it off the same laptop you play them on at home.

are all those mixes yr own or did you find them?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
11:31 / 04.03.02
i can't believe chicks on speed was a floor clearer! and that's their best fucking track on top. motherfuckers.

I love it too, but it was just too intense, I think. I don't think anyone knew what it was either - it's about the same level of danciness as "Deceptacon" by Le Tigre, but everyone knew that and went nuts when it was on.


obviously the truly skillful turntabilisits will be rightly scornful - -they do so much more --

I think turntablists do a much different thing, and won't become obsolete, just more focused on what makes turntablism unique. If someone just wants to play a good selection of songs with a minimum of twiddling around, laptop DJing is the way foward, though.

are all those mixes yr own or did you find them?

All of those mixes were made by other people - you can find a lot of them here and here, and on Audiogalaxy.
 
 
Sleeperservice
16:31 / 04.03.02
Have you tried programs like MixMeister (crap name I know...)? Seem pretty cool for setting up mixes of MP3s. Don't use it myself, I only (try and) write tunes

It has to scan all the tunes first which takes a while, but once it's done you can setup the cross-fades and the program beat matches the songs (you can vary the BPM of tracks over their whole length)

[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: Sleeperservice ]
 
 
The Strobe
18:04 / 04.03.02
Also, do a search for "Final Scratch".

It uses a piece of vinyl with timecode on it, and a special box between your turntable and the pc. You can then use the turntable to spool and scratch the mp3s playing through your laptop. It's very cool. Also, Native Instrument's "Traktor" iirc is a pretty powerful, pro mp3 djing thing. I may be wrong, can't remember offhand.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
18:24 / 04.03.02
All afternoon, I've been playing with AtomixMP3, and I'm having a grand old time. I can just use everything on my harddrive, and just play them the same way I would were I DJing vinyl - I can digitally adjust BPM without changing it so that it sounds freakish, I can more or less crossfade with a minimum of difficulty. Nice.

Wow, "Burning Spear" by Sonic Youth sounds soooo good sped up to something like 180 bpm - it's like crazy punk disco at that pace.
 
 
Red Cross Iodized Salt
22:42 / 04.03.02
There's been a lot of buzz about Final Scratch for at least three or four years, and it seem that people who make their living playing records are finally buying into it. Richie Hawtin and John Acquaviva have been talking it up of late, Hawtin maintains that it is exactly the same (for him) as playing with vinyl. Its pricy though, last I heard a full set up of the necessary soft- and hard-ware cost over $3000...although that probably sounds like a bargain if you are sick of humping a 15 kilo metal box full of records around with you.

O'Jays vs. Happy Mondays? I'm going to have to try to find that one...
 
 
Mystery Gypt
23:27 / 04.03.02
so what's the best software for the mac? gotta rock it out on the white ibook --[/LIST]
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
23:38 / 04.03.02
Check Download.com in the Mac section - there should be a variety of programs. I know that there does exist Mac versions, cos I was told by a few people about folks they know who are using mac powerbooks.

Apparently, Aphex Twin is known to DJ with his powerbook now and again...
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
23:38 / 04.03.02
If Download.com doesn't work for you, try out The Shareware Music Machine. For lots of different OSes, lots of different music-only stuff, sorted into a whole stack of categories. You might have to hunt around for some stuff - the links aren't always current - but there's a shitload of fine fun in there...
 
 
The Strobe
23:12 / 05.03.02
Play with Reason. It might overface you, but it's just wonderful to hear in action. And see. And use. And find funny things coming out of it. I still prefer hardware, but it's a remarkably good illustration of the way things are going to go.
 
 
Sleeperservice
17:10 / 06.03.02
Yeah, if you're more interested in composing rather than remixing Reason is very cool. But I warn you now... it's really addictive! It also has the best user interface I've ever seen/used. Bar none.

Within a few years sound hardware will be outmoded. Software will rule.

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The Strobe
18:17 / 06.03.02
You see, I hate the Reason interface. Because it's hardware I have to click on, and that pisses me off. I want to see software that's like SOFTWARE, nothing like hardwrae.

I mean, seeing the connections round the back of the Reason rack is SUPERB for understanding stuff... but actually unweidly to use. Similarly, the interface of the NN19 isn't as good as it would be if it were real hardware, because that's where knobs and sliders come into their own.

I still like hardware because it works. Unless, of course, it breaks, and spends 3 FUCKING MONTHS IN THE REPAIR SHOP NOT BEING FIXED. This is pissing me off and making me more fed up than you could possibly imagine. Need... beats.
 
  
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