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Princess Superstar

 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
02:26 / 27.02.02
Or P-Supa. =)
http://www.princesssuperstar.com/

There's a recent feature with her on Audiogalaxy (where I first heard of her): http://audiogalaxy.com/pages/review.php?band_id=110322

Only listened to 'Bad Babysitter' but was hooked. Female Eminem? Funny J-Lo? Please educate me, because I'm a bad freelance writer who makes 3 bucks an hour.

[ 28-02-2002: Message edited by: I Love Vortex09 ]
 
 
Sauron
06:57 / 27.02.02
Is your boyfriend in the shower?
 
 
suds
08:34 / 27.02.02
are you making six bucks an hour?
 
 
Sauron
08:35 / 27.02.02
You obviously make more in Brighton babysitting than Brazil.

Seriously though, I haven't listened to enough to say whether I think she's any good yet, or whether it's just bubble gum rap. I'm sure Flyboy and Flux will have insightful thoughts on her to share.

Cool name though.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:23 / 27.02.02
I'm a big fan of Princess Superstar. Got into Last Of The Great 20th Century Composers last year, and just recently heard her new album, Princess Superstar Is, which on reflection may be better... There's what sounds to me like an audibly deliberate effort to emphasise the aspects of her rhyming style that are similar to Eminem's (especially on 'Bad Babysitter', and I don't think it's a coincidence that it's the single), but she still sounds pretty individual, and you've gotta love her for this:

"Everyone tells me I'm the female Eminem -
Well all I'm gonna talk about is getting fucked up the ass then
Don't be mad Em I'm just playin'..."


It's aiming a half-sincere, half-mocking "don't be offended, it's just a joke" excuse at Eminem of all people that's the stroke of genius...

I don't think 'bubble gum rap' is entirely accurate - although actually, I think the term sounds like a good thing, can't see what would be bad about that - because she does have some serious lyrical content as well - see 'Too Much Weight'.

She seems to be one of a growing number of artists who aren't 'mainstream' hip-hop, but whose sensibilities defiantly buck the archetypes of backpack/beardy rap - eg, Princess Superstar has a sense of humour, she raps about sex, she raps about partying, she doesn't take herself too seriously, and she's definitely got a kind of pop thing going on... Anyway, I think this is an entirely good thing, and one of the things that interests me about it is that this forces fans and especially music writer fans of 'alternative' hip-hop to either re-think some of the false divisions they rely on, or be more blatant about what those divisions really are. In theory, anyway.

[tangential rant]

Here's an example of what I mean. I recently read (I think in a review of her new album in Careless Talk Costs Lives, sadly) some guy saying something like [paraphrase] "when Lil' Kim raps about sex she's pandering to male fantasies and demeaning herself, when Princess Superstar does it it's subversive and empowering". Now, if you actually examine the lyrical content of the two artists (for starters, it's not the only issue, but lets' keep this simple), that statement is fairly demonstrably untrue - it was never going to follow that simplistic either/or dichotomy, but they're actually remarkably similar in terms of the way they mix it up (the Princess has said that although she doesn't much like being called "the white Lil' Kim", she is a big fan). So if there isn't actually any difference in what they do, you have to ask, what's the big difference between them that means that indie rock critics take Princess Superstar seriously, but not Lil' Kim? And there's a fairly obvious answer.

[/tangential rant]
 
 
Shortfatdyke
10:31 / 27.02.02
"Everyone tells me I'm the female Eminem -
Well all I'm gonna talk about is getting fucked up the ass then
Don't be mad Em I'm just playin'..."

never heard of princess superstar before today but now i'm interested!!
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
11:19 / 27.02.02
Ah, I wish I wasn't on my way out the door...

Anyway, I agree with what Flyboy is trying to say, I don't think that Lil Kim and Princess Superstar are different at all - I think they are equally talented too. I think the reason why white beardy critics refuse to take Kim seriously is because she's black. Really, I do. It's because she's black, and black women are usually percieved differently - especially a woman like Lil Kim who has so many svengali figures around her. To a lot of people, she's still Biggie's slutty little girl sidekick. Or people focus on her image as being like a tiny little blow-up doll woman.

If Princess Superstar was black, more people would just write her off, but since she's white people are more eager to see the irony in what she does - same goes for Eminem. Somehow a lot of people are okay with irony coming from white folks, but not black people.

And some people can't seem to just let a raunchy sex rhyme just be a raunchy sex rhyme... or see the merit and value in such a thing.

Anyway, I especially like "NYC Cunt" and "Me N Keith" by Princess Superstar. The latter pairs her up with Kool Keith to great effect.

She did another track called "Kool Keith's Ass" in which she discusses with Keith why he should show his ass more in public, to boost record sales.
 
 
Sauron
11:33 / 27.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Flux = tea cosy on head beardy:


And some people can't seem to just let a raunchy sex rhyme just be a raunchy sex rhyme... or see the merit and value in such a thing.



I think this could be the key point.

PS Best sex lyrics, Lil' Kim rapping about Faith Evans on track 10 on Born Again.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
13:15 / 28.02.02
-- are you making six bucks an hour? --

Not even making 3.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
13:16 / 28.02.02
-- You obviously make more in Brighton babysitting than Brazil. --

Probably babysitting in Brazil pays better than freelance writting.
 
 
Janean Patience
08:35 / 14.11.07
"I'm raw, like steak tartare..."

Narrowed down to one line, that's when I fell for Princess Superstar. I didn't know if Come Into My Room was a single or an album track or who the dude on it was, but I loved the Superstar's languid style, the sharp rhymes, how unapologetically filthy it all was. And that voice, more than anything, the drawl that reminds me of Slick Rick.

So I've been trying to find more and I'm pleased to find this thread here offering pointers. The Mason mash-up made for a good tune but didn't allow her to flow in the same way. Fuck Me On The Dancefloor is fantastic in terms of Princess Superstar but is only okay musically, a little irritating even.

And My Machine, the most recent album I went ahead and bought before realising it's packaged along with her Greatest Hits and I could have got both, has some incredible tracks interspersed with lots and lots of concept. It's not a bad concept. It's quite interesting. But when every solidly enjoyable track has two on each side of it doing nothing but furthering that concept, like a computer game that's 60 per cent cutscenes, it can be a hard album to sit and listen to. Filleting out the best tracks is a disservice to the artist's intent, but might mean I get more enjoyment out of it.

Thus far, therefore, my love of Princess Superstar hasn't entirely been reciprocated. I've not yet found the Superstar album that goes on and stays on. What's the best of her earlier stuff? And what does everyone think of her work since this thread began and in particular of My Machine?
 
  
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