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autopilot disengaged
16:21 / 14.01.02
the future of pop music?

i mean - seriously...

i don't like No Doubt. i don't. i don't i don't i don't.

so why can't i get 'hella good' and 'making out' out of my head? why? i feel like eno when he heard donna summer's 'i feel love' and felt, suddenly, obselete.

SERIOUSLY.

for anyone who hasn't heard these tracks - each consists of a 20-second loop/riff/vocal that repeats. every 20 seconds. for 4 minutes.

it's perilously close to genius, if you ask me.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
09:00 / 15.01.02
[QUOTE]Originally posted by autopilot disengaged:

so why can't i get 'hella good' and 'making out' out of my head?

I heard that new No Doubt record, and couldn't help but thinking "if Gwen Stefani wasn't the vocalist on this LP, this would be a record I would listen to all the time".

But alas, Gwen Stefani is probably my least favorite vocalist in all of pop music, that woman's voice and image never fails to irk me, and so that entire record is ruined for me.

It'd be rad if they released an instrumental or dub version of the LP...I'd buy that.
 
 
autopilot disengaged
15:14 / 15.01.02
flux: you cannot let yr gwenophobia get in the way of this bee-yew-tee-full funkin' music. but, even if you can - whaddya think?about the complete repeat thing it's got going on? i can think of similarish kind of things in dance and trance, but...

it's just so audacious.

plus, i really wanna know where in the process the idea came. my money's on the producers - "great guys - we're gonna use 20 seconds of that. again. and again. and again." fantastic.

enlightenment. by xerox. by xerox. by xerox.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:25 / 15.01.02
[QUOTE]Originally posted by autopilot disengaged:
about the complete repeat thing it's got going on? i can think of similarish kind of things in dance and trance, but...
it's just so audacious.

I don't know, I don't think it's really anything terribly new to pop music, it's not that weird to my ears anyway.

Maybe it's just that the No Doubt songs you are thinking of are sorta awkward and the the catchy bits are bit grating, so it calls attention to itself a bit more...
 
 
autopilot disengaged
15:38 / 15.01.02
i can't speak for the rest of the album - only heard the two mentioned above - but, c'mon: it's 20 seconds. repeated. for 4 minutes.

now, if you ask me, the word 'revolutionary' gets used too much - but...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:39 / 15.01.02
you say 'revolutionary', I say 'aggravating' and hopefully not containing subliminal messages...

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autopilot disengaged
15:51 / 15.01.02
the only side-effects i've found is that i get impatient listening to regular songs.

i'm completely: "shut up. stop meandering, dammit. get the good bit. and loop the fuck out of it."

welcome... to the dawn of the future of popular music. things will never be the same again again again.

and, yes, i'm completely aware i'll probably hate these songs in T-3days and counting....
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:55 / 15.01.02
I guess it is the perfect music for today's ADD-addled youth. It's like video game music, almost...

I guess I shouldn't feel so dirty from relying too heavily on loops and repeated motifs in my own music then, eh?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:20 / 16.01.02
Okay, I'm throwing my hands up in the air and admitting defeat: the new No Doubt record is pretty fucking good. I bought a bootleg copy yesterday, and about half of it is just wonderful - the other half is kinda irritating and annoying, ie same old No Doubt, even with the keyboards..

Still, "Hella Good", "Making Out", "Rocksteady" and "Underneath It All" are brilliant disco pop tunes, with or without Gwen Stefani.

I don't think it's as brilliant and revolutionary as Autopilot seems to think, though...
 
 
rizla mission
15:09 / 16.01.02
No Doubt? Good?

This is gonna take a while to get used to..
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:19 / 16.01.02
I'm still getting used to the concept. Seriously, No Doubt's Tragic Kingdom LP contains some of the worst music I've ever heard in my life. That record makes me angry just thinking about it.

And yet...this record is good. Thank Nellee Hooper, William Orbit etc for that,though...

It was kinda painful to spend even $5 on it, though... but it was worth it. I will certainly be putting some of these songs on dancey disco mixes for a long time to come...
 
 
autopilot disengaged
22:57 / 16.01.02
i just can't believe it. i mean, who'd a thunk it?

for those who haven't heard the songs mentioned above (again can't speak for anything other than two i've had on constant repeat for, what - three days - dunno. time slips away...) -

to clarify: when i say these songs consist of a 20second loop repeated for 4minutes, i don't mean some backing track, hip-hop stylee. i mean the beat, the instrumentation, the vocal - everything. essentially what we have here is a 20second pop song (or fragment) played 12times.

this completely blows my mind.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:40 / 17.01.02
I think the best tune is the title track "Rocksteady" which basically sounds like Madonna singing a Bjork song.
 
  
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