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The Hives!! F**k me!

 
  

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Naked Flame
15:42 / 08.12.01
just got 'Your New Favourite Band' after seeing them on Jools Holland (it was that or dodgy Ch5 softporn, k?) and they're blowing me away even as we speak. It's like the Stooges ate the Rolling Stones and then went out pretending to be the Beatles. In Swedish.

Going to see them at the old LA2 on 1st feb, if anyone's up for it.
 
 
Pin
18:47 / 08.12.01
They were quite good, weren't they?

Not got round to get anything recorded ot their's yet, saving money. Convince me otherwise, people. Come on... You know ya wanna make me poor.
 
 
A
00:30 / 09.12.01
My God. The Hives are magnificent. Their like being electrocuted, only fun. And their songs are all fucking fantastic.

Buy it. Buy it. Buy it.
 
 
Naked Flame
00:30 / 09.12.01
a neon light is seen above every average teen
a sign spelling out a word that none of us had heard
fourteen bucks today and I get a new life tomorrow
a new product rejects unhappy moments and sorrow


how can you say no to a band who have members called Dr Matt Destruction and Howlin' Pelle Almqvist?

Apart from the music, which rocks, I just love that they have all these screamingly uncool aspects to their image, which by virtue of being totally blissfully unaware of said uncoolness, they transform into cool the likes of which I've never seen. Must be a Swedish thing.

[ 09-12-2001: Message edited by: Flame On ]
 
 
rizla mission
08:28 / 10.12.01
They just eat the Strokes alive, don't they..

I recorded the Peel session the other week and have been grooving to the sounds of "Howlin' Pelle addresses the Great British nation".

(Though I was initially put off by the fact that their radio hit 'Main Offender'(?) sounds exactly like 'Accusatory' by a band called the Henschmen(?) .. but who cares, frankly).
 
 
[N.O.B.O.D.Y.]
00:42 / 11.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Flame On:
just got 'Your New Favourite Band' after seeing them on Jools Holland


Can anyone tell me if that's the name of their CD? Is that one their debut or they have released something before? All these good comments make me curious...
 
 
A
02:14 / 11.12.01
The Hives have released two proper albums- "Barely Legal" and "Veni Vedi Vicious", both on Sweden's Burning Heart Records.

If I'm not mistaken "Your New Favourite Band" is a compilation type thingy that mostly features stuff from "Barely Legal", and is released on an offshoot of Creation, called Poptones, or something lke that, but i could be wrong.
 
 
Seth
20:10 / 11.12.01
OK, I'm sold. I will search their stuff out.

I heard they were from Portsmouth...
 
 
[N.O.B.O.D.Y.]
01:26 / 12.12.01
Yeah, me too...I have to hear some of that.
 
 
Sauron
08:18 / 12.12.01
COuld be up for it- tickets left?
 
 
Naked Flame
08:18 / 12.12.01
Website is here. You can get tix at the Mean Fiddler site (heavy flash content tho.)
 
 
Saveloy
08:18 / 12.12.01
Hmmm, Portsmouth.... Sweden.... garage/metal influenced rock....

Is one of the band members called Tom Dangerous?
 
 
A
12:59 / 12.12.01
Nope, but one of them's called CHRIS Dangerous. There's not really any metal influence there, to my ears anyway, which is part of what makes them so damn good. There are too many metal/glam/rock/whatever bands from that part of the world.
 
 
Cop Killer
18:14 / 12.12.01
I wouldn't buy a Hives album, basically because I have this thing where I buy American and I advise you all to do the same. I mean sure the Hives are alrite, but they don't hold a torch to the Makers, who have been doing it for about ten years longer and the Makers still rocked more than the Hives when they didn't even know how to play their instruments. The whole Swedish scene bothers me, because it's chock full of "rawk" bands that want to be the Didjits -- if you don't know the Didjits, check them out before you check out any of their ripoffs, basically the Swedish rock scene is to the Didjits what Screeching Weasel was to the Ramones. Except for the International Noise Conspiracy, but that's just because they're so busy ripping off the Nation Of Ulysses. So anyways, the Hives seem like a waste of my time, because they can't possibly stack up to the Makers (who are also the reason I can no longer listen to anything Estrus puts out besides Makers albums, they're so fucking good that there ain't a garage band in the world that can compete), try as they might, they just can't do it.

quote:It's like the Stooges ate the Rolling Stones and then went out pretending to be the Beatles.

I could kinda see that, but for the Didjits or the Makers it would be somewhere around the Rolling Stones killing the Beatles in cold blood, with knives, before going off to do a bunch of Meth with the Kinks. Then the Stooges come in and eat them. Something along those lines.
 
 
Naked Flame
18:46 / 12.12.01
quote: basically because I have this thing where I buy American and I advise you all to do the same.



of course, if they were American they would be bigger, better, and never wear out, whereas being Swedish the album, nay the whole band, is a flat-pack self-assembly job. And there's always either a bit missing or a bit left over.

An American band doing this would not be able to get away without invoking the spectre of every other garage rock band ever-I'm in love with Howlin Pelle Almqvist's ability to completely mangle language in incredibly entertaining ways whilst gleefully projecting three million tons of gleefully uncool Attitude. They make it fresh. That's a good trick these days.
 
 
Sauron
18:54 / 12.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Cop Killer:


I could kinda see that, but for the Didjits or the Makers it would be somewhere around the Rolling Stones killing the Beatles in cold blood, with knives, before going off to do a bunch of Meth with the Kinks. Then the Stooges come in and eat them. Something along those lines.


That is the coolest description I have ever read in my life, except for The Kinks. Couldn't it be a Keith Mooon inspired Who?
 
 
Cop Killer
08:12 / 13.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Flame On:

An American band doing this would not be able to get away without invoking the spectre of every other garage rock band ever-I'm in love with Howlin Pelle Almqvist's ability to completely mangle language in incredibly entertaining ways whilst gleefully projecting three million tons of gleefully uncool Attitude. They make it fresh. That's a good trick these days.


While the Makers are highly fashionable and do combine all the garage stylings, any project with Ric Sims (Didjits front man, then went on to the Supersuckers now fronting the Gaza Strippers) is highly unfashionable. He dresses poorly (polka dot shirts quite a bit, often times wears Devo-esque flower pot hats, if not those he's wearing a derby) plays well, but it's obvious that seventies stoner rock is a big inspiration to him (think Deep Purple and Blue Oyster Cult) and he does massacre the English language often. Just about every Swedish garage band is pretty much a carbon copy of the Didjits.
And Sauron, the Kinks rocked way more than the Who.
 
 
Naked Flame
08:12 / 13.12.01
quote: And Sauron, the Kinks rocked way more than the Who.

Two words. The Troggs.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
13:01 / 13.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Cop Killer:

And Sauron, the Kinks rocked way more than the Who.


You lie.

But anyway, The Hives are pretty good. Still dissapointed that I didn't get to see them for free though. They're what the Strokes should be (did someone already say that?), just because they're more interesting. And they move. But then, maybe they're not pretty enough. And too Swedish.

Not too fond of the old mifits-type stuff they did though. New stuff is great.
 
 
Seth
13:02 / 13.12.01
I just heard "Hate to Say I Told You So," and it's a thing of beauty. The album will be mine...

The video's wicked: real low budget, kinda eighties black and white. They are indeed damn cool. More bands should use freeze frame in their vids - it looks so amazingly cheesy!
 
 
Sauron
17:41 / 13.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Jonny Suede:


You lie.



DITTO BABY. HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF SIR KEITH MOON?
 
 
Cop Killer
18:51 / 13.12.01
Yeah, I've heard of Keith Moon, yeah, he's a great drummer, but the Kinks are still a better fucking band than the Who.

quote:invoking the spectre of every other garage band ever.

Isn't that what Poison did?
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
00:14 / 14.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Cop Killer:
Yeah, I've heard of Keith Moon, yeah, he's a great drummer, but the Kinks are still a better fucking band than the Who.



No.
You are still clearly wrong.
 
 
A
10:19 / 16.12.01
Come on, the Kinks had Ray Davies, and the Who had Roger Daltrey. The Kinks clearly rocked over 300 times more. It's a scientific fact.
I think the Hives sound more like the Easybeats (but with lots of drugs and guns), anyway.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
16:03 / 16.12.01
People say The Strokes are derivative, but do you think The Hives ever heard 'Search And Destroy' by Iggy and the Stooges?
 
 
Axel Lambert
16:21 / 16.12.01
Aaaaaaaaaaah!! You actually LIKE the Hives?? I would've guess anybody outside Sweden would just laugh at them.
 
 
Axel Lambert
16:23 / 16.12.01
Aaaaaaaaaaah!! You actually LIKE the Hives?? I would've guess anybody outside Sweden would just laugh at them.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
09:37 / 17.12.01
quote:Originally posted by count adam, part 2:
Come on, the Kinks had Ray Davies, and the Who had Roger Daltrey. The Kinks clearly rocked over 300 times more. It's a scientific fact.


No, I dispute that. And anyway, they did try to kick Daltrey out

But come on, The Who had Pete and Moon. And by my scientific measuring that means The Who rock approximately 1.74* times more than The Kinks. Who were good, but they never quite up there were they?

*Taking in to account this meaning when The Who were being good, and Pete wasn't going too crazy/art school**

** Taking in to account that though this a very good and inpirational thing, they didn't always quite get it to work as music.

That is all.

 
 
A
09:37 / 17.12.01
Okay, I'm up for a good old fashioned "'fraid not", "'fraid so" type of exchange.

The Kinks were WAY up there. "You Really Got Me" is quite probably the greatest rock'n'roll song ever. I'd certainly put it above "My Generation" or "Substitute" or even "Can't Explain".

And, they wrote such other contenders for the title as "David Watts", "All Day And All Of the Night", and "Tired Of Waiting".

At their finest, they had that beautiful raw, snotty, crazed rock'n'roll feel that I don't think even existed before them.

And, they didn't write any rock operas. Bad concept albums, maybe, but no rock operas.

I'd like to see this debate drag out for months, getting more and more stupid. It could probably do with some personal attacks, as well, but I'll leave that for later.
______

And of course The Hives have heard "Search And Destroy". Everyone has. And everyone supposedly sounds like The Stooges and the MC5, even if they actually don't.
 
 
Naked Flame
09:37 / 17.12.01
I think they're playing at the virgin megastore in oxford st, london, tomorrow. Erm, today. monday. argh need sleep. or i'll miss them.

edit- have just realised previous poster adam2 posting from oz and am in uk and now know that i really really should really sleep now.

zzzzz.

[ 17-12-2001: Message edited by: Flame On ]
 
 
Cop Killer
09:37 / 17.12.01
quote:Originally posted by count adam, part 2:
And, they [the Kinks] didn't write any rock operas.


Actually, their album, Arthur was a rock opera, done about a year before the Who did theirs.
 
 
A
22:10 / 17.12.01
God damn it, I really should research my outbursts a little better. At least you're on the ball, Cop Killer.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
22:29 / 17.12.01
Pah, fuk the kinks! fuk them! Tey can lik daltey's AZZ MAN! haha! WOAH!

 
 
Fengs for the Memory
08:15 / 20.12.01
Coming to this a bit late only saw them last on Tv. Sounding remarkably like the Pixies without the sublety. Still, nice outfits.

And the Who piss over the Kinks from a great height.
 
 
Cop Killer
17:49 / 20.12.01
Pah, fuck that, the Who rode the Kinks coattails throughout the whole sixties.
 
  

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