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CD-Rs under the spotlight.

 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
07:20 / 05.10.01
Looks like the UK industry's getting ready to lean on CD-R copying. Saw this on the front page of a copy of Music Week that's lying around the office; I picked it up initially because the back carried an ad for CD copy-protection. Ahem. quote:
MUSIC WEEK (UK) 25 August '01

CD-R PIRACY: ACT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

by Mary-Louise Harding

Senior UK music industry figures are preparing to place the issue of CD-R piracy at the top of the agenda for both the domestic business and the Government as they gear up for the crucial fourth quarter.

BMG UK chairman Hasse Breitholtz will next month seek to launch a "call to action when he addresses his senior management and assembled retailers and distributors at his company's annual sales conference

The move follows the revelation in BMG's home market of Germany last week that music unit sales and revenues plunged by 10.8% and 12.8% respectively for the first six months of this year compared with the same period last year, with CD-R piracy cited as one of the main factors. German consumers last year used 133m CD-R discs for copying music, while downloading 316m songs online, according to a report carried out for the German label association BPW.

Addressing the Popkomm conference in Cologne, BMG Europe president Thomas Stein, who is also head of the local German branch of the IFPI, said the growth of illegal CD copying has cost the German industry DM3.3m (£1.06m) in turnover if counted as official sales.

The mounting CD-R problem in continental Europe is reflected on this side of the Channel, with anecdotal evidence suggesting that the UK is on the verge of an epidemic. The BPI estimated the number of available music counterfeit CDs rose by 150% to 2.9m units in 2000, leading to an overall 40% year-onyear rise in the cost of UK record piracy to £20.5m.

Breitholtz. who witnessed the problem at first hand in his native Sweden, says he will use his address at next month's conference to issue a wake-up call to the UK industry and Government. "If we don't discuss how to tackle this problem before it really explodes in the UK, we will lose out," he says.

As with blank tapes, CD-Rs are sold at most music retail outlets across the UK. Bard chairman and Virgin Retail chairman Simon Wright says the industry needs to find a solution together. "The industry has learnt to absorb the impact of home taping, equally the industry has to develop a way of combating this latest threat, not least in the area of providing a valid and attractive legitimate alternative," he says.

Meanwhile, BPI chairman Rob Dickins has been continuing the BPl's lobbying efforts for more strenuous measures to deal with music pirates in the UK, although trade and industry minister Tessa Jowell is understood to advocate private industry self-regulation rather than greater Government involvement.

"CD piracy is becoming a huge problem," says BPI internet piracy manager Jollyon Benn.

"Raids in recent weeks have turned up career counterfeiters who have hundreds of immaculate copies of all the latest albums, films and games all on CDs." he says. "Trading standards people need to have the resources to tackle this growing problem - but the response at local council level is this just isn't a resource priority."
I'm curious to see what the "private industry self-regulation" entails; methinks it's a forging ahead with the computer-disabled disc, or other such measures. Some German labels have already instituted it, and I read last week that Vivendi Universal are planning on having copylocked releases in place by the end of the year.

Coincidentally, the RIAA is apparently going after peer-to-peer filesharing networks, with talk of the MPAA getting involved, too. Fuh?

Some more stories:Any comments?

[ 05-10-2001: Message edited by: Rothkoid ]
 
 
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07:20 / 05.10.01
It's the same old crap they wheel out year after year: tapes, MP3s, Minidisks, CD-Rs... CD-ROM disabled CDs are not going to stop people copying tunes- as long as a CD player has an audio out socket (or even just a headphone socket) and there is something to record on to, then there will be "piracy".
 
 
Saveloy
10:21 / 05.10.01
"...the growth of illegal CD copying has cost the German
industry DM3.3m (£1.06m) in turnover if counted as official sales."


That's what bugs me about this. They always assume that every copy made is a lost sale, but as anyone whose ever copied anything or received a copy knows, that simply isn't true. I would list all the different scenarios but I reckon we're all pretty familiar with them by now (people who wouldn't buy it anyway but will say yes to a copy, people who go on to buy 'the proper article' etc etc).

It would be great if someone could do a proper bit of research into this to find out what proportion of the mass of copied material actually does represent a lost sale. Maybe they already have -anyone know of any?

[ 05-10-2001: Message edited by: Saveloy ]
 
 
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20:37 / 28.08.06
Ho hum. Five years on, the BPI are still banging the drum.

Point 1 (as BoingBoing noticed):
The British Phonographic Industry (BPI) says intellectual property crime should be "higher on the police's agenda".

So, what should be lower? Shoplifting? Drink driving? Please Mr BPI, tell us what is less important than music piracy?

Point 2:
The survey found that 37 million pirated CDs were sold in the UK in 2005, the value of which was more than the combined legal sales of the leading 13 albums in the UK.

Hmm. Let's see. Billy Joel, Pink, Snow Patrol, Keane, Christina Aguilera, James Morrison, Kooks...
This is fantastic news! That means these people are able to offset THE ENTIRE COST of music piracy in the UK, and they still get to make an absolute fortune on radio and TV royalties. I'd say it's a win-win, kids. These losers get to atone for their sins (OK, Billy Joel has a couple of good numbers) and still make a better living than anyone you know. Meanwhile, lots of people get free music which will turn them on to good stuff, which they can then buy. Aces.
 
 
haus of fraser
14:20 / 29.08.06
Hmmm,

In my experience the music industry is up shit creek- and while we gloat about taking fat cat corporations money, lets not forget that the record labels employ people who work bloody hard often for very little money- this includes many an underachieving band.

Record labels run a business- and while it may seem like the money spent/ earned is a bottomless pit when Mariah Carey recieved a hefty pay off to leave Sony was it a coincidence that approx 2000 people also found themselves without jobs- ie the lost money has to be accountable.

While i agree with you that people that pirate music also buy music i can't help but feel that something should be done to better police filesharers, its not all faceless corporations and fat cats- people are loosing their jobs- and while i agree that anyone with a microphone can pirate music- it would be controlled a whole lot more if file sharing was taken into account.

File sharing has definitely played a huge part in the large drops in sales (as has a changing market that includes DVD's, and computer Games)- the internet means that music is much more readily available- when i grew up and i taped an album from a friend i had to know someone that owned that record- now i just type in the name and see what i get. The knock on loss of sales (which there have been) mean for label employees and the satellite industries suffer redundancies, wage cuts, loss of pensions etc

I work specifically in music videos- and as a result of lost sales the budgets have been cut- literally by about 50%- eg an average video budget 3-4 years ago would sit in the £40-80,000- this is for acts that sell in the uk and Europe only- so your Rachel Stevens or Super Furry Animals etc- the same bands now sit in the £20- £40,000 budget bracket- some labels have a budget cap of £40,000.

Buuut- and here lies the problem- the record labels expect the same high quality videos- the nature of the market is such that there will always be a director/ production company/ post production house that will offer a service/ deal cos they want to be associated with a cool band/ track.

Videos are currently being supported by advertising- the same production companies also make commercials- that pay the wages and make videos on the side as vanity projects. A sad state of affairs especially when you think that videos are essentially commercials for a band- also sad that the director of a video only gets paid a flat fee- so if the track/ video is successful you still only make your fee- no royalties/ points- this is currently being negotiated but i can't see the labels budging on this an inch.
Food for thought?
 
 
Spaniel
17:51 / 29.08.06
It seems to me that itunes and friends offer access to an enormous range of music, and that as a consequence sales are spread thinner over a broader base, meaning that even if people are still buying shitloads of music individual companies and individual bands will inevitably make less.

Or am I really wrong?
 
 
haus of fraser
19:09 / 29.08.06
I think there are different ways to sell music but in general sales/ profits are down from where they were 10 years ago.

I am aware that some labels are still making money- but i'm also aware that sharing music isn't as much a victimless crime as some would have us believe. Speaking from personal experience I buy less music cos i download a lot of stuff- and i rarely buy something that i haven't listened to first online. I can't remember the last record i bought without having heard some of it before from downloading.
 
 
Kiltartan Cross
19:27 / 29.08.06
I think we have to bear income from touring in mind, too, so while loss of revenue from CD sales is a bad thing - and I have a serious problem with pirating music (except for purposes of introducing other people to it, natch) - it's not the sole source of income for a band. I don't actually know what the typical relation is between tour income and royalty income, mind, and I guess it varies wildly between bands, but still: leaving manufactured groups aside, albums generally come from live bands recording their set; the band comes first, the album comes second, so problems with album sales won't necessarily cripple new music.
 
 
haus of fraser
21:25 / 29.08.06
But the record "industry" isn't just made up of bands or people that will make a cent off a tour- ie producers and engineers, A&R, video directors and crew, the receptionists and marketing staff in the label etc.
 
 
Kiltartan Cross
10:22 / 30.08.06
Oh, yes, that's fair enough, I only meant to suggest that the impact on bands would not necessarily be high.

One legitimate trend I don't like is the move towards "every song is a single" status which the downloading culture facilitates. I can't help but feel there's something wrong about "only picking the stand-out songs" rather than listening to a large chunk of a band's output and deciding what you like for yourself.

(edit)

Just listening to Sway's "Download", which says it better than I ever could, and which I wholeheartedly recommend. Here/
 
 
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17:27 / 30.08.06
I'm not convinced that the majors' decreased sales are the result of filesharing to be honest. I think it's got more to do with the increased diversity in musical tastes, and the fact that the majors haven’t done well to respond to that.

The record industry's traditional model is to create a few bands that sell millions of records, across a narrow range of styles and genres. Forty years ago, this was a great way to do business. The "pop" in "pop music" stood for "popular", so tackle one genre and you could sell to the majority of the record buying public. Also, the costs of producing music were extremely high, with the need for studio time, recording equipment, rehearsals, and a whole load of professionals - engineers, songwriters, producers, arrangers, and so on. So it made sense to produce a few records that would hopefully sell millions.

The problem with the record industry (well, the majors especially) is that they knew they were on to a good thing, and so haven't really been quick to respond to changes in the way that the public listens to, makes, and buys music.

There have been two profound changes since the sixties. Firstly, it no longer takes a whole load of resources to make a record. If you’re a dance music producer, chances are you do the whole thing on your own, without any studio time at all, and the only additional resource needed will be to hire an engineer for the mastering stage. On the other hand, if you’re in a rock band, if you’re making anything other than stadium rock (like punk, black metal, garage surf rock, whatever) then the aesthetic is definitely towards something more lo-fi, in which case expensive production won’t really do you any favours. Making music (other than really high production pop or stadium rock) is, in terms of resources, easier than ever.

Secondly, the music buying public no longer fall into one homogenous group who all like something called “pop”. Instead there are million more genres than there used to be. Many of these genres developed at a grassroots level, which was possible because it’s become so easy for the general public to make music. These genres start off on independent or underground labels, or these days maybe on MP3s and websites, and then eventually the majors will pick up on them. But one way or another people are interested in them, and buy the music. In recent years think electro house, grime, dubstep, new folk, etc.

Essentially it's the archetypal case of the so-called “Long Tail”. The tail refers to the tail end of the market, with those products that individually don’t sell very many copies. The theory is that the tail is long – there might be more products to be sold from the tail than from the peak. In other words, Death Cab for Cutie, Kid606, Yo La Tengo, Wolf Eyes and Le Tigre won’t individually outsell Britney. But cumulatively they might.

This is how the economy works these days. The tail is getting longer. Look at the success of Amazon. It’s entirely based on being able to tap into that tail – stock a million products and sell a couple of hundred each, and you do better than selling only a hundred thousand of the top one hundred selling products.

And this is why the majors have been in decline – because rather than try and understand and tap into the long tail, they’ve decided to fortify their position instead, by putting more money into fewer bands. And this works, up to a point. When tickets to see Madonna live cost £60 each, you can make a return on investment. But throwing money into PR campaigns will never create the same long term excitement and devotion as you get from a lower key, personal relationship with a band.

I could go on, but I’ll stop here before this becomes too much of a rant. Basically what I’m saying is that it’s easy to scapegoat filesharing for falling record sales, rather than properly investigate and adapt to the public’s ever changing music finding/ buying/ listening/ enjoying habits.

Wired Magazine's article about The Long Tail
 
 
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20:57 / 30.08.06
OK, my post was a little sneery, but it was a response to the implied idea that all filesharing and digital use of music is bad.
I have never downloaded a single track (no, not one) that was not given away for free by the artist. I think there is a convincing moral argument that if you enjoy something someone has produced in a commercial context you probably ought to pay for it.
However, I have ripped every single CD I own (and most of my old vinyl) which is exactly the sort of thing that the next generation of DRM is going to try to stop. The required digital signing of applications and drivers that the new version of Windows will require is likely to make all those open-source systems we use to play our music (XMMS, MediaMonkey, VLC, what have you) utterly useless.

OK, that was off-track a little, but I think what is important is that fans of music are still as willing as ever to throw cash at the people they admire and think is worth it. They are just spread thinner. There are a few bands I'm willing to go to see just about anywhere in Britain, and whose CDs I will always buy. The correct response to other people trying to steal money from them is NOT to make me jump through hoops to listen to stuff I already own.
Pirates will always find a way to crack security. Always. Why should we, the people who are doing the right thing, be punished for their actions?
And the question stands: Which crime is less important than this, which the police should drop down the priority ladder?
 
 
haus of fraser
23:50 / 30.08.06
I think the whole ways of trying to crack down on copies and CD-R's is pretty crap- also the notion that pirated music exists in the same way that pirated dvd's do- i've never been offered a pirate cd from a dodgy geezer in a pub. The notion that these Pirates are the problem is surely a pointer that those tackling the problem are way off the mark.

However I would support a ban on filesharing- if the software providers are held accountable- i'm pretty sure that the problem would dissapear pretty quickly- or if mandatory (and realistic) fines were impossed on ALL sharers (there must be a quick and easy way of tracking IP addresses)then again things may change. but at the moment we have totally unrealistic fines for a very small unfortunate few- which again makes the record industry the bogey man- if the fines were more like parking tickets- ie £50- £100 but issued pretty regularly- this may help.

I am aware that not every file shared was a lost sale- but some definitely are- I can think of CD's that have been on my 'must get' list that i've downloaded and then haven't bothered buying.

So I agree with you cube in the way that the filesharing/ music piracy is being tackled is crap- but i also reckon that it is an important issue and shouldn't just be ignored.
 
  
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