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Eastenders tonight

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17:32 / 25.01.02

Anybody see it? Is it just me or was that special?
I rarely watch it. I can't remember the last time I watched it on my own. Shona likes it though.
I just flicked and the scene was compelling and dark.

It ain't the pain, it's the shame.

That was really, really good. Isn't it suprising where you find little moments.

Rollo Kim, on location

18:25 / 25.01.02

I'm trying to give it up. It makes me angry. The writers need a slap.

The Knowledge +1

09:08 / 26.01.02

No, it was really quite good!

I got taught in uni by the female writer who wrote the whole Dirty Den saga, and she was so cool...

Eastenders really can be quite outstanding sometimes. Really brilliant.

Hmmh...

09:08 / 26.01.02

The Undisputed King of Soaps. I was cheering the TV when lil' Mo smacked the crap out of Trevor with the iron. The only other programs that will get me in pantomime participation mode are Buffy, Angel and DS9.

22:24 / 26.01.02

Couldn't disagree more. It's like some kind of bizarre melodrama, a parody of itself, and it makes Brookside look like a Ken Loach film.

It's embarrassing that people who used to work in comics have been involved in it in recent times, quite frankly.

So insanely incestuous and unrealistic (can no-one ever date anyone who doesn't live outside the Square ?), and Kemp's acting looks like Hennarty from 'The Bureau' on the Day Today, or Boyard on 'Fort Boyard', even when he's meant to be playing a sensitive scene. "I love you, Mel", he says, rolling his eyes and arching his eyebrows like a panto villain.

Still, at least the writers and the cast are enjoying themselves, eh ?

Ooh, it makes me MAD -

DBC

Regrettable Juvenilia

18:16 / 02.01.04

I am not ashamed of the Walford.

So it's been pretty cracking stuff this week, eh? F/F slash writers round the country go wild as Kelly's subtextual unrequited crush on 'Zo' is suddenly textual and possibly requited, Tatu-tastic; loads of other young uns wander round the barren, uninhabited planet Scotland after flipping their urchin-carrier, pairing off and/or revealing that they're related; and we get arguably the cruelest soap opera screen death of all time: Janine tells Barry the extent to which she's been playing him for a fool, and he splutters and disbelieves like that alien in Galaxy Quest, before tumbling down a hill and cracking his head on a rock - she then sits down and watches him die, while he begs for help and invokes his infant son - to which she replies "Memories are better". ICE COLD!

18:22 / 02.01.04

And even as I type she's crying real tears for Bazzo.

She can't be allowed to get away with this, the laws of TV-land dictate she mustn't, surely.

Bet Paul's really wishing he was down at the bookies instead.

Regrettable Juvenilia

18:56 / 02.01.04

"Don't leave me, Miss Zodo. Don't go where I can't follow!"

Tryphena Absent

20:33 / 02.01.04

I hope Janine does get away with it. Cracking, that's what it would be. Go Janine, you ruthless bitch!

21:19 / 02.01.04

Yeah! Lets spur on the evil almost-murderess! If it was anyone but barry, I'd be furious with her. But that girl had to make love to a sweaty whale to get that will.

I love how lots of people go to scotland, and bbaadddd things happen. Cause its so far away and alien. I actually missed the episode, but saw the aftermath of both baaddd things tonight.

Hurrah for kelly and zo-ness. And wierd cringyness for tarrick and whatshername.

22:04 / 02.01.04

It was Barry, trying to make her life with him, so he could show her the inner love inside herself. Surely it's self defence.

I missed it tonite: they started picking up on Tariq! and his sister! yet?

22:50 / 02.01.04

His sister, at the end, told mickey she was sorry but she couldnt see him anymore cause she still had deeper feeling for someone else, looking at Tariq; mickey says "Wha'.. Tawwiq?" and looks shocked. Was it last night or tonight tariq told mickey, i dunno, but he was disgusted anyway, that he'd stuck his tongue down his sisters throat. Not that its horrifically uncommon, in the albert squarians.

But no, his sister and bro didnt pick up on it. Or if she did, then she's just sick.

18:33 / 04.01.04

There hasn't been a good sibling incest storyline since Brookie, before Lisa Faulkner was almost famous.

22:43 / 04.01.04

Not been paying much attention; what happened with Shazza Watts 'n' Dennis'(?) incestuous relationship?

07:16 / 05.01.04

Pseudo only, as Sharon was adopted.

Ex

10:02 / 05.01.04

Eastenders is founded on pseudoincest - it's like a perpetual motion machine powered by the attraction of fahmlee and the repulsion of the incest taboo. Thus we have Sharon shagging her brother-in-law, Bianca nearly shagging her real dad, Bianca actually shagging her step-Dad, Sharon shagging her adoptive half-brother, Dan Ferreira's son shagging his ex-girlfriend - there have been loads of others, but my recall is limited.

It's that delicate balance between the need to preserve the family but the threat of incest in endogamy, and the need to marry out but the threat of Peggy Mitchell shrieking "BUT EE'S FAAAAAAAHMLEE!" until your eardrums shatter. This balance powers the series.

So I reckon that if Eastenders actually does, for a second, show a proper incest storyline, it will implode. Huzzah!

10:58 / 05.01.04

Yeah this whole Scotland thing has been a bit strange, anyone know where they were actually going for this mystery party in the Highlands? Man did they get lost!

Bye bye Barry....

11:25 / 05.01.04

yeah scotland looks dangerous doesn't it?

obviously the horniest bit of the christmas/new year Square was kelly and zoe's lovely licking lesbian kissykiss. that's the way bbc, handle girl/girl attraction [not something they've done before 'fi remember]sensitively, realistically, delicately, y'know perhaps via a pair of ex-pro lipsticky dollybirds who sell shazzy clubwear down the markit. i've felt sorry for kelly for ages, and now she's got the kind of storyline that can only lead to weeks of angst. who was it who said lyn and laura should've gone for it, kicking moron gary to the kerb? they were right.

the Square's been shit before the last two weeks though. i haven't forgiven them for little mo yet.

Tryphena Absent

11:53 / 05.01.04

I haven't forgiven them for Little Mo either. What kind of trash storyline is that? Only the death of Barry saves them from brimstone and lightning. The lead up to his death was marvellous, I sat there grinning away as he became the most annoying and gross man on the planet. That speech at the wedding was absolutely cringeworthy but it was the carving of their initials in to the tree just did it for me, he deserved to die.

Now they will completely clear their names if Zo and Kelly end up in bed together... like that's going to happen.

10:33 / 07.01.04

jesus mo

jesus billy

it was all making me feel a bit ill last night. i was trying to put myself in billy's position and actually made myself feel nauseous. that's a telly that is.

so what do we think? i think (can't believe I'm saying this) my own reaction would pretty similar to billy mitchell's, though less scraggily-necked.

11:19 / 07.01.04

Can someone please fill me in on whether Janine actually killed Barry or not? I wasn't here so the last episode I saw was the silly New Years wedding one.

I am also very angry with them for the little Mo story line and if they make her and Billy split up I shall denounce it for ever. And switch off my television set and go and do something less boring instead.

10:56 / 13.01.04

Bring back Wilmott-Brown, I say. There's a baddie for you.

Regrettable Juvenilia

11:41 / 13.01.04

Janine didn't kill Barry, exactly - she told him the truth and they happened to be at the top of a hill, he clutched at her in a "don't leave me!" way, she shrugged him off and he fell. However, she DID then sit and watch him slowly croak his last rather than go and fetch help, so yeah, she kinda did.

The Mo/Billy/endless Slater misery stuff is rubbish: apart from anything else, it's incredibly repetitive, and having all the characters say "wow, this is exactly the same as what happened before!" doesn't help that. Given what the TV papers in Sainsbury's are showing on their cover, I don't think olulabelle's TV set is long for this world.

I have to admit I like the Zoe/Kelly story a lot, and not for the 'obvious' reasons - I like the role reversal that's taken place now, plus it's fascinating to wonder how long this has been planned when you think of the way Kelly's always behaved with regard to Zoe (I didn't invole the spirit of Mr Frodo/'Your' Sam for nothing...). I also find the Tariq storyline oddly affecting: he's a little git who almost everyone hates, arguably with very good reason, and yet he just wants to be loved by his family... Awww.

Can someone tell me exactly what happened when Phil came back over Christmas, and where he & the two Dens are now? Presumably Phil's back in the clink?

12:38 / 13.01.04

Not sure about Phil and D&D - I've missed it recently too, but I did like the Zoe and Kelly's kiss (for the obvious reasons).

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These predictions came from a source which has been semi-correct before (eg Janine killing Barry - so not quite true but hey!)
> >Future storylines:
> >
> >Janine finds that she has inherited everything from Barry but finds that he is in deep debt from a dodgy stolen car fraud problem.
> >
> >Lynne loses her and Garys baby.
> >
> >Kelly's feelings for Zoe develop and when Zoe is drunk one night, they share another passionate kiss.
> >
> >News that Phil has been killed in a freak accident reaches the square.
> >
> >Janine finds that she is pregnant- with Barrys baby!!
> >
> >Alfie and Kat find that they cant have children and try to find the
> >money for IVF.
> >
> >Tariq and Karina find themselves in a passionate embrace. Dan catches them and throws Karina out onto the streets and beats up Tariq until he is hospital bound.
> >
> >Antony returns to the square in a one hour special to find Paul stabbed to death by Janine.
> >
> >Little Mo has Graham's baby, only to find that it is blind.
> >
> >Martin invites the whole square to a huge party, unknown by Pauline who finds Martin and Sonia in bed together.
> >
> >There is a fire in the vic caused by broken lights sold by Micky and
> >Nana Moon gets trapped and later dies in hospital.
> >
> >Ians son Steven returns with his biological Father from Australia.
> >
> >Laura is so depressed because Gary has left her and turns to alcohol!
> >
> >A new family arrives and the father starts a relationship with Big Mo which later lands her in prison.
> >
> >Dennis discovers hes gay and Den supports him all the way but deep down he is ashamed.

So there you go.

Jesus Q. Public

12:52 / 13.01.04

Phil was last seen being driven out of Walford by the eternally useless Rickay. He was gonna kill ver Dens, but then Dirty gave him a load of cash and told him to hop it. He was also rocking a beard. Really crap way to leave.

Jesus Q. Public

12:59 / 13.01.04

Also: Minty looooooves Sam. It's gotta happen.

00:02 / 14.01.04

Dennis cant be gay, he's tasty. Its not allowed.

Sorry, but what exactly happened with charlie and graham? I saw graham get in the back of the cab, and charlie locked the doors, but I had gym on monday. Could someone fill me in please?

Jub: I hope they all happen in one episolde, it'd be great. Unless it was on a monday, cause I'd miss it. Ho hum, such is life.

00:40 / 14.01.04

On the incest topic (a few posts back) don't forget they kind of have done an incest story - Kat actually having a child (Zoe) by her dodgy Uncle.

"You ain't ma mother!"

"Oh yes I am!"

06:12 / 14.01.04

Not sexy incest for the masses, though, was it?

Bop - Charlie took Graham to somewhere remote and beat the living crap out of him. Then he went to the cops and coughed all.

And Billy's wishing he was half the man his father-in-law was.

20:32 / 15.01.04

Insest is sooo old news in Walford though.

Dont you just want to pick Little Mo up, give her a big hug, but then half the time give her a good shaking as well? Or is that just me?

06:47 / 16.01.04

Funny, that's what Trevor said.

09:13 / 16.01.04

why's billy wishing he was charlie? is it

a) that he should've beaten up sexy graham?

b) that he should swallow his feelings and bring-up someone else's rape-baby?

10:55 / 16.01.04

I think Billy's meant to be feeling a bit emasculated because he didn't do the manly thing when he found out about Mo and go out and kick seven shades of shit out of Graham, whereas Charlie immediately did?

11:13 / 16.01.04

right. the 'zoe' argument that's hovering around mo's head as justification for keeping the baby doesn't quite work as charlie, far as i remember, never knew that kat had been raped.

Regrettable Juvenilia

13:03 / 16.01.04

FIRE IN THE DISCO!
FIRE IN THE DISCO!

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