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Clones: A Brazilian Soap Opera

 
 
Tamayyurt
23:43 / 16.01.02
This Brazilian soap opera just started here in Miami (dubbed in Spanish) That's about Cloning and Islam or something. I don't really know but my Mom (of all people) was sitting around with a bunch of Cuban old ladies and they were discussing this like, well, like me and my friends taking the piss out of some Morrison comic or Buffy. It was weird! So for all of you in the Brazilian Invisible Cell... is this any good? Have you even heard about it? How's it going to end? (cause I'd like to freak out the lot of them heheheh)
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
03:19 / 17.01.02
Oh, boy, how can I start? Soap operas are the equivalent (in ratings and repercussion) in Brazil to american sitcoms and drama shows. I find them terrible, even knowing we actually export them to several countries. Soap operas' actors and actresses here are the similar to America's Hollywood star pantheon. That's for you to get a picture. 'The Clone' is one of the most viewed shows here - and this represents the ratings of, say, 'Friends' or 'E.R.' or whatever show you have with millions of dayly viewers.

I don't watch it, but my girlfriend is hooked on it, so's my mom and granny. Can't tell you if it's any good because I really can't watch it. It's usually (as many soaps) badly written, directed and acted (actors suffer from epidemic overacting). The authors tend to pick themes that are being too much talked about in press and pulp them to the masses (I mean millions of poor people whao can't always read or write). The Islam plot has been worked since pre-9/11 and appart from some rather expected stereotyping they portrait the arabian families with some dignity, I've heard.

This use of up-to-date themes for the masses on the other hand can actually work as some kind of 'popular newspapers'. Which is somehow good, but not enough. It takes long to explain our context so you can understand the impact of such thing in our culture. And to tell the truth, it's been a while since soap opera viewers had so much interest in one show and talked so much about it, so maybe it's a little better than the usual soap.

So, the clone himself took some months to appear and the soap hasn't come to end yet. Sometimes they're aired for 6-8 months straight.

If you can understand a bit of Portuguese (sometimes similar to Spanish), go here:
http://www.globo.com/oclone - official

or here: http://www.terra.com.br/exclusivo/novelas_clone.htm

or to my girlfriend's weblog: http://www.flaviadurante.com/blog

[ 17-01-2002: Message edited by: Vortex09 ]
 
 
Tamayyurt
12:09 / 17.01.02
Cool, thanks for the info. I understand how soap operas work cause a lot of the people in Miami are from Latin America. So it's the same (maybe to a lesser extent but still pretty big) over here. My girlfriend (from Nicaragua) has been watching it and she agrees that even though it's kinda cool it's still rather soap operay.

So the clone doesn't show up for a while...we had figured one of the twins was a clone.

PS. I tried looking at the sites but I couldn't understand them... oh well

[ 17-01-2002: Message edited by: impulsivelad ]
 
 
Ganesh
12:15 / 17.01.02
Damn. Was hoping it'd be some '80s Village People type affair, all check shirts and handlebar moustaches...
 
 
deja_vroom
12:25 / 17.01.02
shit. just as I was earning some respect around here...
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
17:14 / 17.01.02
--Cool, thanks for the info. I understand how soap operas work cause a lot of the people in Miami are from Latin America. So it's the same (maybe to a lesser extent but still pretty big) over here. --

It's a social event talking about it.


-- My girlfriend (from Nicaragua) has been watching it and she agrees that even though it's kinda cool it's still rather soap operay. --

As they'll always be. Actualy some actors (like Murilo Benicio) have been in american movies and most of them do appear in brazilian movies. Soap opera is where they stay under the lights in our media and where they earn their usual money from.


-- So the clone doesn't show up for a while...we had figured one of the twins was a clone. --

Yeah, he is. He'll be kept away from the main plot for a while and, as the story advances, he will be shown as a grown-up. Only last Monday he has showed up as an adult in the story and it has been some months since the soap is on here. They've been stretching it due to the sucess.

I can't believe I'm actually talking about it here! The last of places... =D
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
17:15 / 17.01.02
-- Damn. Was hoping it'd be some '80s Village People type affair, all check shirts and handlebar moustaches... --

Sorry, Ganesh, my ignorance prevented me from understanding what you meant.
 
 
maratimba
10:15 / 19.01.02
I just disagree Vortex about the repercussion... brazilian soap operas are so big that circa 50% of TVs tune this shit everynight!!!

and the jerks, like me, that don't see it can't have a marvelous conversation in the cab or bus... )
 
 
Ganesh
10:23 / 19.01.02
quote:Originally posted by Vortex09:
Sorry, Ganesh, my ignorance prevented me from understanding what you meant.


Sorry. Fatuous sort of gayist in-joke: the "clone" was the faintly-derogatory term for the predominant late-70s, early-80s "look" on the gay scene. Think moustachioed, check-shirted, flat-topped Frankie Goes To Hollywood pseudo-machismo.
 
 
Burning Man
12:57 / 19.01.02
I'll admit I have been watching O Clone a little bit because we have Globo on our satellite. My wife e uma Brasilleria, and I am trying to learn Portugese. Sure it's bad acting, but let me tell you, if the lead actor's character supposed to be a big pussy with zero charisma, then the actor is doing a great job because I want to leap through the tv and smash his face every time I see him.

Sure the islamic element is stereotypical, what tv show isnt based on sterotypes?

Storywise, I like what my coworker said when the NY Times picked up the O Clone coming to Spanish TV story. "So Brasillian clone technology was cutting edge years ago." You can't turn off your mind to this kind of critical analysis for any show...that's the only way you can watch tv and survive.
 
 
Burning Man
13:00 / 19.01.02
I'll admit I have been watching O Clone a little bit because we have Globo on our satellite. My wife e uma Brasilleria, and I am trying to learn Portugese. Sure it's bad acting, but let me tell you, if the lead actor's character supposed to be a big pussy with zero charisma, then the actor is doing a great job because I want to leap through the tv and smash his face every time I see him.

Sure the islamic element is stereotypical, what tv show isnt based on sterotypes?

Storywise, I like what my coworker said when the NY Times picked up the O Clone coming to Spanish TV story. "So Brasillian clone technology was cutting edge years ago." You can't turn off your mind to this kind of critical analysis for any show...that's the only way you can watch tv and survive.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
00:34 / 22.01.02
--I just disagree Vortex about the repercussion... brazilian soap operas are so big that circa 50% of TVs tune this shit everynight!!! --

That was my point; I used the 'Friends' and 'ER' ratings comparision because both this show are too big in US. Thought this way impulsivelad would be able to understand our context.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
00:36 / 22.01.02
--Sorry. Fatuous sort of gayist in-joke: the "clone" was the faintly-derogatory term for the predominant late-70s, early-80s "look" on the gay scene. Think moustachioed, check-shirted, flat-topped Frankie Goes To Hollywood pseudo-machismo.--

Oh, I see now. Just love to learn any international in-jokes regardins style (or lack thereoff). =)
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
00:45 / 22.01.02
--I'll admit I have been watching O Clone a little bit because we have Globo on our satellite. My wife e uma Brasilleria, and I am trying to learn Portugese. --

Just out of curiosity: where's she from? If you will, go to my Portuguese Delphi forum: http://www.delphi.com/escritorio

You'll be welcome there and will be able to practice it. Barbelith and the WEF taught me that a good way to improve a new written language is just by practising it.


-- Sure it's bad acting, but let me tell you, if the lead actor's character supposed to be a big pussy with zero charisma, then the actor is doing a great job because I want to leap through the tv and smash his face every time I see him. --

Thing is (as my girlfriend told me): he's supposed to be a pussy indeed. It will contrast with his clone - who happens to be 20 years younger than him and a very sweet guy. These qualities will make a certain islamic girl fall in love with him...
[cue main theme song]


-- Storywise, I like what my coworker said when the NY Times picked up the O Clone coming to Spanish TV story. "So Brasillian clone technology was cutting edge years ago." --

And we have our own cloned animal too! It's called Victoria. It's either a sheep or a cow, I don't remember.

And, man, after my girl told me all about the clone, I told her a short version of the Spider-Man clone saga and we agreed the soap opera's plot seems much better...

[ 22-01-2002: Message edited by: Vortex09 ]
 
  
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