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Big Train / Smack the Pony : New Series

 
 
DaveBCooper
11:26 / 14.01.02
So, we've had one episode of the new series of these two shows (Mon 9.30 BBC2 and Fri 9.30 C4) here in the UK...

Anyone see either of them? What didja think?

DBC
 
 
Bear
11:44 / 14.01.02
Never really got into Smack the Pony but I did watch a bit of it I think, some of it was ok though...

Watched Big Train though, yeah it was ok nothing outstanding but a few laughs, the smart arse guy in the factory "Selling like Hot Cakes" and all that, that was pretty funny and the guy who couldn't open the door.. I'll watch it again tonight though its entertaining enough, Office is back on again which I did really like
 
 
rizla mission
14:07 / 14.01.02
I thought last weeks Big Train was reaaallly funny, which is odd, as I've never been overly impressed with the show before, bar the odd moment.

I loved Keith(?) Emerson in the Gladiator spoof ('Palmer drowned in a lake' hahaHA!) and the 'didn't you know my first wife was a Mexican bandit?' sketch.

Which must give you a pretty good idea of the stupid stuff that makes me laugh..
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
14:23 / 14.01.02
First time I'd ever seen Big Train was last week, and found it - like most sketch shows - to be hit or miss. Very much so - no middle ground. Anything with Keith Emerson in it is worthwhile, y'know. If only because he will only travel with his full complement of keyboards.

Smack The Pony, however, always has struck me as being rather shitbox. Can't do it. In the same way as I can't do Gimme Gimme Gimme!, something that one of my flatmates thinks is genius, and I think it unspeakably bad.
 
 
Saveloy
12:21 / 15.01.02
I love 'em (Big Train and Smack the Pony, that is, Can't stand Gimme Gimme Gimme). The great thing about both series is that the actors are so likeable and the performances so good that they're a pleasure to watch even on the odd occasions when they're not laugh-out-loud funny. I could watch Kevin Eldon fill in a spreadsheet or Sally Phillips paint her window frames and I'd be perfectly happy. Ah, the simple pleasures.

[ 15-01-2002: Message edited by: Saveloy ]
 
 
rizla mission
13:59 / 15.01.02
I award a comedy medal to the 'Old Man Steptoe on the Catwalk' sketch.
 
 
T*M*U*M*A
14:42 / 15.01.02
"... you big handed twat"..

personally i found thoes sketches really funny.. but thats only cause i have big hands.

and the Potato head romance was classic Big Train..
 
 
daisy
20:17 / 15.01.02
I like both series,though they sometimes miss,going back to the first series of Big Train,nothing beats Emporor Ming doing the hoovering. and when the minions come to the door asking for advice and he says"throw them into the pit of fire!"
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
10:34 / 16.01.02
Series 2 is plain compared to 1... They seem to be struggling for ideas... Why was the Steptoe thing run twice? And I hope they aren't going to do the French film thing every episode. Still, Black Books is back too in a couple of weeks and now he's got Big Train out of the way Simon Pegg can get to work on Spaced series 3.
 
 
Bear
10:57 / 16.01.02
So I'm getting a feeling that "Spaced" was good then, I never watched it because well it looked like a pile of shite to be honest...but this week I have no right to talk about comedy because I actually watched "Last of the Summer Wine" so I will stop
 
 
T*M*U*M*A
11:25 / 16.01.02
i've started watching the re-runs of black books.. they're funnier than i remember
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
11:27 / 16.01.02
quote:Originally posted by Bear:
So I'm getting a feeling that "Spaced" was good then, I never watched it because well it looked like a pile of shite to be honest...


Yeah, that was my impression the first time round, but then I watched the repeats. Spaced is one of the greatest tv programmes of all time...
 
 
Chubby P
21:09 / 16.01.02
The only thing in Big Train that was really funny was the world wide staring competition from the previous series. Anyone remember that one?
 
 
Mourne Kransky
21:17 / 16.01.02
the Staring Championships were excellent but the best sketch ever was the eponymous one where a team of top civil servants are briefing the Transport Minister on the rail network, with the aid of a map and an outsize model train. that sketch made me laugh incontinently.

and new Smack The Pony is shaping up very well. Doon McKichan is fab. are they bringing "Beast" back? she was great in that too.
 
 
Pin
11:23 / 17.01.02
Two episodes, no wanking jokes. It feels wrong.
 
 
Sauron
13:20 / 17.01.02
Anyone know whether a new series of Spaced is coming our way?
 
 
captain piss
14:32 / 17.01.02
I just watched about 10 episodes in a row the other night, having never seen it, and I think it's genius. And I generally choke on the stench of most tv comedy -like Gimme Gimme Gimme.
It'd probably appeal to a lot of people here partly in its attention to sci-fi geekery detail- which is kind of what makes it brilliant, the fact that things are more finely detailed and believable than most tv comedy. Like the guy will be playing Resident Evil on his playstation, whereas most sitcoms he'd just be playing 'video games' or something.
And Simon Pegg has a really funny face (he strangely reminds me of our very own Ghost Doctor- who's no longer around these parts, I don't think)
 
 
DaveBCooper
09:31 / 20.01.02
Interested to see your various replies.

For my money, both shows are rather limp so far : BT has had a substantial change of crew (one of the main writers now not so, people such as Chris Morris not involved, howsoever tangentially, and different directors from last time round), to the extent that it's almost a different show in terms of pace and content, and STP, despite a talented cast, is quite frankly lazy in the extreme (memo to writers and directors : if you don't have a high point on which to end the sketch, just cut to the next one - slow pans to left or right do not a punchline make, though granted they do waste time, thus saving money and effort).

I can't help but wonder if maybe we've almost gone far enough with sketch comedy shows which effectively take comedy apart to see how it works, if you see what I mean; whilst this may have been new and inventive with Milligan's Q and the Pythons, now I fear it may have reached the point where sketches are just a vaguely amusing idea fleshed out, and without any apparent need to worry about whether the sketches are tight or funny overall. I'm almost fed up with sketches which take two minutes to build up to a three second punchline... as with shows like Eastenders, I think both BT and STP need some serious script editing to stop them simply being shows which look as if the cast and writers have had an awful lot of fun with what they've done, and the audience can quite frankly lump the end result. I guess what I'm talking about would be a sketch show with the snappy writing and playing and direction of something like Spaced, which has (I feel very rightly) been praised in this thread...

And as for the Big Handed Twat sketches in BT, here's a thought : that physical deformity, and the mockery the man suffers as a result, is funny, is it ? Boy, that's edging dangerously close to a return to schoolyard 'Joey Deacon' jokes. And let's not pretend that the sketch is in any way trying to poke fun at people who poke fun at people with deformities, cos it plainly ain't...

DBC (aka disappointed of Droitwich)
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
08:17 / 22.01.02
Caught the last part of Big Train last night: as usual, some works, a lot didn't. Was far more impressed with Office - as it's the first time I've seen it. Where the fuck have I been? It's uncomfortable to watch because it's so close to straight representation of people that I've worked with.

Christ.

"Cock."

I'll be watching again.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
08:31 / 22.01.02
Yes, I did briefly think about that with regard to the 'big handed twat sketch. And thanks to DaveBCooper for the insight, I guess that explains for me why the new series isn't working, the crew don't seem to 'get' why the first series was so great.

I saw the second ep of 'Smack the Pony' last week and thought it was a great improvement on the second series. Too soon to tell for sure, but it looked like after the 'tricky' second series they'd actually got together and found their focus again, the sketches with the biscuits, the women with different colour scarves fighting and setting the mans arm on fire were brilliant.
 
 
Bear
08:31 / 22.01.02
quote:Was far more impressed with Office

It is really funny, even more so like you said because you can see parts of the charecters in people you work with, I hadn't seen the first few eposides so it cool seeing what I missed and it does stay at the same standard if not better..
 
 
mondo a-go-go
08:31 / 22.01.02
quote:Originally posted by Laudanum/ Illegal combatant #1273:
Anyone know whether a new series of Spaced is coming our way?]


they'll havta write in a plausible explanation for why tim is suddenly twice the size he used to be... and he looks about 10yrs older in BT. poor lad.
 
 
DaveBCooper
10:19 / 22.01.02
Have to say I thought last night’s Big Train was ‘more like it’, maybe it’ll keep gathering pace.

And god yes, The Office is great stuff. I was very wary about it when it first came round, as I hadn’t enjoyed Gervais’ stuff on the 11 o’clock show at all, but he’s clearly much more than that.

DBC
 
 
Mr Ed
13:05 / 22.01.02
Went to the laugh track screening of Smack the Pony decmber-ish.

They showed roughly 3 episodes in a kind of marathon affair. If memory serves, the sex/farting and wedding proposal squits were piss funny. The rest was shite.

Big Train is hit and miss. In some parts its just retarded malice, in other places very very funny.

Personally, Make Dave Gorman king of comedy, that'll do me.
 
 
DaveBCooper
13:38 / 22.01.02
Mr Ed, what was the audience reaction like ? Lukewarm ?

I ask because the laughter track seems to be having a great old time of it on STP, and when I went to a screening of the last Armstrong & Miller series, the audience reaction felt far more muted in reality than it was when the show aired…

DBC
 
  
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