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Hong Kong cinema

 
 
Sax
10:11 / 12.01.02
A friend bought me A Chinese Ghost Story for Christmas. Absolutely fantastic. While I've been aware of this genre in the past, I've never watched one of these movies. Anyone suggest further viewing. Mr Vampire is next on my list, but suggestions would be appreciated.
 
 
Seth
13:26 / 12.01.02
The only Hong Kong movies that I'm really familiar with are gangster flicks, and some martial arts stuff. I've not seen any ghost/horror films. How broad's your topic, Sax?
 
 
tSuibhne
13:08 / 14.01.02
Looks like I'll be the first to throw out the name John Woo. Possibly the best action director of all time. Just got A Better Tomorrow II for Christmas, and was a VERY happy camper.

For martial arts flicks. Check out the Once Upon A Time In China series.

Um... acctually, there's a thread around here somewhere. I started it. Look for a subject called Action Films, or something like that.
 
 
Warrington Minge
15:59 / 14.01.02
If you like A Chinese Ghost Story then try A Chinese Ghost Story 2 and The Heroic Trio 1 + 2. Zu Warriors is also good and Savior of the Soul. Hope that helps.
 
 
Magic Mutley
17:01 / 14.01.02
Couple that spring to mind -
Iron Monkey
The Bride With White Hair


I'll try & think of others

[ 14-01-2002: Message edited by: Wheaty-G ]
 
 
Rev. Wright
18:40 / 14.01.02
Zu Warriors of the Magic Mountain is tops.
a must have film with some incredible special effects.
Whilst I'm here can anyone name a film for me. There is a magical battle between two sorcerers, who seem to increase the height of their respective platforms to get the upper hand. anyone?
 
 
Magic Mutley
18:46 / 14.01.02
Yes! I know the one! It's erm...erm... Dammit, I'll have to ask my brother & get back to you.
 
 
Knight's Move
14:57 / 15.01.02
Sammo Hung film. Close Encounters of the Spooky Kind. Also features Sammo doing Monkey-style kungfu. Which is great. Also features the jiangshi or Hopping Vampire one of the most ludicrous of all movie beasties. They hop and can thus be defeated in much the same way as daleks.
Other great supernatural include The Seventh Curse. Based on stories about Wisely (hero of several books and films) it features an ancient demon that looks like the alien, a small purple worm demon, a cackling eunuch sorcerer, the giant stone Buddha, and, of course, the infamous baby-grinder. Oh and it has Chow in it as a pipe smoking occult expert with a rocket launcher.

Other things to look for are pretty much anything by Tsui Hark and starring Jet Li (who should have killed everyone in L.Weapon 4). Once Upon a Time in China has a stunning finale fight on ladders. Peking Opera Blues does not have Jet but does have gender confusion, acrobatics, evil white men, strong female characters, torture, slapstick, love, and death.

Saviour of the Soul is one of my all time favouriotes. Set in a near future it combines gun fu and kung fu in equal measures. It has a ludicrous plot, supernatural powers, drugs, explosions, a love triangle, a bratty kid who doesn't make you want to sterilise mankind to avoid the threat of kiddies in movies, beautiful cinematography, gorgeuous lighting, and it is almost comprehensible!

Burning Paradise. Good monks get trapped in evil temple fight their way out. Amazing martial arts, amazing. Invincible air stance, paint as a weapon, a cackling bad guy, monk versus monk, damn good stuff. Particualrly like the time passes method which is to show the hands of a guy buried alive outside the temple slowly decomposing to bones. Nice touch.

If you want to know more (and I could go on all night) I recommened Sex and Zen and A Bullet in the Head a book about the buisness and the movies by Stefan Hammond and Mike Wilkins and Made in Hong Kong on Portobello road in London (if it's still there).

Other good films include almost anything by Woo, particularly starring Chow Yun-Fat because he is possibly the coolest guy alive, City on Fire (Ringo Lam's 1987 film which had more than a little influence on a small heist flick called Resovouir Dogs), Project A Part 2 (suprisingly good Chan film in which he runs down the wall of a falling house, stands in the middle of a falling wall and the window goes over him, dangles from the hands of a clock, spits industria;l alcohol at his foes, fights with chilis, and skids across hot coals (I think that's all in this one) and, and, well you get the idea...
 
 
Rev. Wright
15:28 / 15.01.02
Cheers for the film name.

The end of A Better Tomrrow 2 appears on the TV at the motel in True Romance.

City on Fire, must be watched to get the Mr Orange and the ring scene

'You are super cool'
 
 
videodrome
16:04 / 15.01.02
Knight's Move: some of the stuff you quote from the Chan flick is actually in Drunken Master II. Both good flicks - in fact, I really like all the Chan stuff from the mid to late 80's. There's a bunch of doubles - Project A, Police Story, Armour of God, etc, all of which are available in initial and sequel versions. Of course there's Police Story 3 as well, but I don't like it as much. Say what you will about his mugging, but the great thing about most of these Chan films is that he (or in some cases his director/choreographer) keeps the camera at a proper distance so you can see how fantastic a lot of the fight choreography really is. Not so much quick cutting and wire fighting with these. See 'em on the screen if you can.

Ringo Lam is cheese but he made a few other good ones. A lot of his films seem to have 'On Fire' in the title, e.g. Prison OF, City OF School OF and Island OF. Island On Fire is pretty entertaining, though silly. Also in the same boat is his 'Full Contact', which makes no sense at all but is pretty fun to watch as long as there's beer handy.

When you get into the horror/supernatural stuff, there's some crazy shit out there. Mid 80's to early 90's there's entertaining stuff like a lot of the films already mentioned, but as HK got closer to switch time in '97 the flicks really started to get strange. I'm blanking on titles - will have to check my library.
 
 
videodrome
16:08 / 15.01.02
D'oh!

A quick IMDB check reveals that Island On Fire is not Ringo Lam at all, but Yin-Ping Chu. Oh well - given the title you can perhaps understand the confusion. Still an amusing film, esp. the Cool Hand Luke reference scene.
 
 
cusm
17:36 / 15.01.02
Chow Yun Fat is the God-Dammed-Man. See "The Killer", its one of those Genre setters. Hard Boiled is another goody. He does a lot of gritty dark melodramatic flicks where hundreds of guys get shot down in crazy action scenes, then all the good guys die horribly in a tragic ending. Great stuff

If you like Wusha, The Storm Riders is probably the coolest thing I have ever seen, short of Lord of the Rings. Its almost like watching a live action anime, only it doesn't suck and pulls off all the coolness you would hope for. Giant flying chi-blasting kung fu. Aw Yea.

Heroic Trio is a fun one, think crazy wusha kung fu but in a James Bond flick. People run up streams of bullets and fight with wicker baskets. That sort of thing, while wearing tight PVC outfits.
 
 
levon
18:04 / 15.01.02
if you want a good ghost story as a followup to chinese ghost story, I recommend Bride with White Hair all the way.

But my all time fave HK flick is God of Gamblers. It's starringChow Yun Phat but it isn't directed by John Woo. Chow Yun Phat stars as the worlds greatest gambler, who never loses no matter how bad the odds. But his luck turns when he is double crossed by his best friend, who later murders and rapes (IN THAT ORDER) his one true love. Meanwhile, Chow Yun Phat is left for dead with amnesia in a gutter at a bottom of a hill. The best part is it's a comedy.
 
 
The Strobe
22:46 / 15.01.02
The Killer.

It's better than Hard Boiled, has a rippingly over the top but still marvellous plot, fine action sequences, and great acting.

And I've lost my fucking tape of it. Arse.

Hard Boiled is OK, but nowhere near as good.
 
 
moriarty
02:24 / 16.01.02
A Hero Never Dies and Expect the Unexpected are two films by Johnny To and company that I saw a few years ago. I am anxiously awaiting my next dose of their films, especially anything starring Ching Wan Lau, the second coolest man in Hong Kong.

I would like to second Strom Riders, but, make sure you get the full two hour version. Do not watch the butchered hour and a half video. Please.

And, I just found out there's going to be a Strom Riders 2. Happy day.

God of Gamblers has a special place in my heart. I was at my friend's house flipping channels when I saw a man, hidden in shadow, walking down a corridor on the screen. Half a second, tops. I started screaming, they turned it back, and I was right. You know you're one of the coolest men in the world when you have such a recognizable strut.
 
 
Magic Mutley
17:14 / 16.01.02
On a slightly different note - has anyone seen the Indian file Ammoru? Fantastic film - evil magic, excellent special effects, and lots of singing -screen shots

[ 16-01-2002: Message edited by: Wheaty-G ]
 
 
cusm
17:42 / 16.01.02
quote:Originally posted by moriarty:
And, I just found out there's going to be a Strom Riders 2. Happy day.


*bounce*

Thanks, I hadn't heard about that. The Manga is being released in English currently, which I've been chasing after. Its predictably enormous.
 
 
pantone 292
08:06 / 17.01.02
Peking Opera Blues
seek it out.
tuxedo wearing communist heroine conspires against the kuomintang [sp?] from within her decadent father's house and the opera of the title, she's whipped, shot, and can still run over roof tops and gallop off into the sunset with her 2 female comrades...
 
 
slam_meister
00:28 / 20.01.02
The Legend Of Fong Sai Yuk starring Jet Li if you can get a hold of a copy is one of the best films of this genre I have ever seen it also has a sequel TLOFSY2. I saw these both about four years ago when channel 4 did a late night run on Hong Kong cinema. I have been unable to find copys anywhere. If someone knows a retailer that stocks these or has copies that they want to sell then I am always listening.
 
  
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