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Chiron
13:32 / 08.11.01
Check out the trailer for Dagon at http://movies.fantasticfactory.com/dagon/
I can't believe it took a Spanish company to make a Lovecraft film.
 
 
Captain Zoom
14:04 / 08.11.01
Looks like it might be alright, that.

Kinda based on Shadow over Innsmouth.

I'm sooooo wary of Lovecraft based films. In fact, I can't even think of a good one that I've seen. The only parts of "Necronomicon" that were any good were the bits with Jeffrey Combs as HPL.

Didn't see a release date on there, when's it out?

Zoom.
 
 
deja_vroom
14:26 / 08.11.01
the "horrors beyond describability" surely get in the way of the directors, don't they?
anyway I hope this is a good one. And believe me, when I'm rich, I'm gonna finance "The Call Of Cthulu" in all its gory.
*returns to corner, head in the clouds...*
 
 
moriarty
16:46 / 08.11.01


Stuart and Yuzna have been trying to make this picture for over a decade as a follow up to Re-Animator and From beyond. It sure looks creepy enough.

There was one movie, Out of Mind - The Stories of HP Lovecraft, that had an actor that looked exactly like the author. Poor man.


 
 
Saint Keggers
18:30 / 08.11.01
I saw Out Of Mind just 2 weeks ago..man that was horrid. It reeked of 'all things wrong with candian movies-ism'. But the guy did indeed look like HPL. I havent seen any of the other HPL based films but I think the best ones would be ones where they leave the look of the horror up to the audience's imagaination...no?
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
18:43 / 08.11.01
Upcoming Attractions have some more info here.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
08:16 / 09.11.01
i loved 'the case of charles dexter ward' and i love the IDEA of lovecraft, but his inability to describe anything scary does have me snorting with frustration and laughter....
 
 
rizla mission
13:02 / 09.11.01
ahh, you fail to understand the genius of...

er..

um..

THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

The monster picture above looks fairly lame. I hope they have the good sense to not show it very often. or at all.
 
 
moriarty
15:15 / 09.11.01
Yeah, it does look pretty lame. But I like it anyways.

Something to keep in mind is that not all of Lovecraft's work is about Unthinkable Things Man Was Not Meant To Know. That's why I think Dagon (Innsmouth) might work. There's nothing unimaginable at work. Like Re-Animator.
 
 
Chiron
12:39 / 10.11.01
Hey Captain Zoom... It was opened in Spain last week but i have no idea about a British general release, alas. But I will endeavour to find out!
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
13:48 / 11.11.01
My god... you like VH and Lovecraft? Are you the perfect woman?!
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
18:50 / 11.11.01
but what about the classic---Phantoms???
 
 
rizla mission
13:32 / 12.11.01
um, what indeed..
 
 
Knight's Move
01:32 / 22.11.01
There is always Chandler-meets-Lovecraft Cast A Deadly Spell (or Lovecraft as it was also titled) with Fred Ward as private eye H Philip Lovecraft, the only man who does not use magic in a world where everyone else does. He's hired to locate the Necronomicon for the guy who played the doctor in the shit middle story in the film Necronomicon. That's quite good as far as it goes, it's got all the usual film noir staples such as dodgy night club owner but the loony jittery sidekick uses magic to whack people (You know what happens to nosy people? They get their noses teleported away...hehehe or something like that). There was also a poor version of that made by Dennis "sellout" Hopper called Witch Hunt in which the McCarthy witch hunts are re-envisiaged as, well, witch hunts. Almost no connection to Lovecraft except I think (think) the Hopper lead is called Lovecraft again. This particular film is notable for half-inching the marvellous moment from The Coversation in which Hackman reveals why he is a dark brooding loner after tapeing the conversation on the boat which led to the death of the woman, only doing it with magic trick - recording conversation in bottle and then pouring it out. Other than that you can always check out classic schlock-fest Cthulhu Mansion in which a bunch of charisma bypassed teen hoods get caught up in a coke deal gone bad and have to take refuge in the titular mansion with the owning magician who happens to have an interdimensional portal to (gasp) "Eldritch Nether Regions Wherein Dwell Horrors Man Was Not Meant To Know" (TM). Wouldn't you know it the beasties wake up and the house eats all the teens, some random drug dealers who turn up, and I think some bent cop, turns some of them into zombies and leaves the (80's style) beautiful daughter to escape with someone. Take this film at all seriously and you'll wish they'd never even discovered the magic lantern; watch it as a pisstake warning about the problems of withdrawing from cocaine and you're part way to enjoying it. There must be more but I can't remember them at present.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
08:52 / 21.05.02
dennis "sellout" hopper? christ, you must have know idea about the fact that this man was banned from directing films after his incredibily bizarre second film "Last Move" which was like a one man war against hollywood... nor the fact that after finally scraping and begging to direct, he did Out of the Blue which is just about the most nihilistic thing to hit a screen. when did he sellout? when he acted in a couple bad movies? thank god we've got you to police the movies for us or we mightn't be able to detect morality in cinema.

(yes, i know, i viciously overreacting post 7 months later is a bit much, but forgive me, i'm just topping the conversation about dagan after all.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
09:19 / 21.05.02
MG: I know that those Gap ads lost a lotta faith...
 
 
videodrome
09:45 / 21.05.02
[threadrot]

Er, MG, wasn't that Hopper picture more of a war against everyone else working for and with him? Based on everything I've read he was a raving incompetent, with no actual conception of what he was doing. Seems that most of what the film turned out to be ultimately had little to do with him.

[/threadrot]

There's a Brazillian DVD of Dagon and the US disc comes out in July. Think I'll hold my hand until then, but then a rental will surely ensue...
 
 
grant
19:02 / 22.05.02
The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath.
Animated. Based on a comic book.

Could be... fun.
 
 
ill tonic
01:44 / 23.05.02
Next to Re-Animator I think the most faithful and enjoyable Lovecraft film I have seen was a straight to video number called Resurection. (I believe it was based on The Case Of Dexter Ward ... although I'm not too sure about that. It's been a long time since I've seen it so I'm sketchy on the details ...)
 
 
ill tonic
01:50 / 23.05.02
Ah crap, got the name wrong -- it's THE RESURRECTED, not Resurrection, the shitty Seven rip off starting C. Lambert. Sorry.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
05:28 / 23.05.02
i know it's way off target, but Last Movie is one of my favorite films of all time. the documentary about him cutting it makes for a great double feature. it's jodorowsky-level insanity without the visionary imagery, just pure cinematic mania. maybe some day i'll start a hopper thread to try and articulate why i like him so much, but in short, almost anything he's directed is great an dhis performances are generally at least engaging and bizarre.
 
 
Captain Zoom
19:55 / 24.07.02
So I just picked up Dagon on DVD. Did you like Re-Animator? You'll like this. Just as schlocky, but with some updated sfx. Part of me feels like I wasted my money, that a rental might have been the better idea, but really, what video store is going to carry that? Ah well, I'll just add it to my ever-growing collection of Lovecraftiana and wait for the video copy of "Cthulhu Mansion" that I've ordered to come in.

Zoom.
 
 
Stone Mirror
23:34 / 24.07.02
I'm sooooo wary of Lovecraft based films. In fact, I can't even think of a good one that I've seen.

Oh, they're few and far between, but they exist.

The Resurrected is a very good version of The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. Re-Animator is (in my opinion) a fine telling of Herbert Ward: Reanimator. Likewise, I thought From Beyond wasn't bad at all (although I don't recall a blonde in bondage gear in the Lovecraft story...)

There have been several decent Lovecraft hommages: In the Mouth of Madness and Cast a Deadly Spell were both quite good.
 
 
I, Libertine
12:21 / 02.08.02

I just watched In the Mouth of Madness last night on DVD. I think it succeeds because it shows the hideous beasties only out-of-focus and in quick cutaway shots. Too bad Carpenter doesn't make movies like that anymore...
 
 
Stone Mirror
15:37 / 02.08.02
I just saw Dagon last week. So-so. I would have liked it better if they'd gone to the effort of re-shooting, dubbing or even sub-titling the reams of Spanish dialogue still lurking throughout the movie...

That said, it was vaguely reminiscent of the Lovecraft story it's purportedly based on...
 
 
Knight's Move
17:48 / 02.08.02
Slight threadrot but I should respond:

Don't get me wrong on Dennis Hopper. I feel the man when he started was a legend, a proper balls-to-the-wall loony with a serious message and counter-cultural credentials. However more recently he did renounce a lot of his early days and what he did then, mostly after the life changing moment that was the chair of dynamite...I am not attempting to police people's movie choices out of a rejection of people who sellout, that would, for instance, have stopped me seeing the excellent Undertones documentary because John Peel does toothpaste and insurance ads, however I am attempting to police them on grounds of how much I hate people having to waste hours of their life watching shite when they could be watching excellence. Hence my warning against Witch Hunt. I watch bad films so you don't have to.

Sorry to hijack the thread like that, and I do appreciate your point about the man (I particularly liked his work in 24 as a crazy psycho and hell I must be one of the few men on the planet who liked Flashback...) but at the end of the day when dred Cthulhu arises and eats all our souls this will have been ephemeral.
 
 
Stone Mirror
19:38 / 02.08.02
I watch bad films so you don't have to.

I think you're working my side of the street here.
 
 
videodrome
00:36 / 10.08.02
Watched Dagon on my last night in Boston with the roommates. Thought it was very bad. Not good bad, not funny bad, just bad. The lead guy wanted so desperately to be Bruce Campbell and Jeffrey Combs that I could focus on little else. Everyone else, except the drunk old guy, was just silly. Suprisingly, the production value was a lot higher than expected, with a few good-looking effects here and there, but adding up to no suspense or fear at all. Boring. There's a good film hiding inside this story, but Dagon ain't it.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
23:27 / 29.12.07
One of the weirder renditions of HPL so far: Mark E Smith reads The Colour Out of Space as a Christmas ghost story on BBC television.

And it's not exactly delivered with much emotion or drama, or even that well, to be honest.
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
13:13 / 30.12.07
Haven't yet seen it, but this labour of Lovecraft is on my wishlist; however, for the sake of your sanity, look not directly upon the Elder Thongs.
 
 
Foust is SO authentic
13:35 / 30.12.07
Um, why did they do the Innsmouth story, but use the Dagon title? What a ridiculous switch.

The lead sounds like a total tool in that trailer.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
13:48 / 30.12.07
Do get that Call Of Cthulhu DVD - it's an excellently enjoyable film, as faithful an adaptation as one would hope, and a pretty convincing pastiche of silent era cinema too. Which reminds me that I must watch it again.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:30 / 30.12.07
I actually liked Dagon. Though for a better Stuart Gordon Lovecraft adaptation watch his version of The Dreams In The Witch House (part of the first season of Masters Of Horror).
 
  
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