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Lord of the Rings...

 
 
Fra Dolcino
10:52 / 30.10.01
Has anyone else seen the full LOTR trailer at the cinema yet? If so, what did you think?

I was impressed with the Balrog and the scenery looked great, but will it justify its price tag. The computer images still look like computer images.
 
 
Wize Dragon
11:09 / 30.10.01
I start with saying I haven't seen the trailer at the cinema yet, I have had to put up with internet downloads of previous trailers.
But, Peter Jackson as director, I have faith. The man is a lord in my books, I mean face the facts, his global debut was Bad Taste, a film with better use of camera and editing than many a multi-million dollar shocker. I showed it to an aspiring cinematogrpher and he was amazed by the film language employed.
His films, Heavenly Creatures and The Frighteners display an amazing ability to comprehend the CGI necessary to create magnificent illusions.
He a KIWI, a people from my experience who can appreciate the finer qualities of humour and intellect.
The film was shot away from the American Studios over in NZ, hopefully leaving the director with more creative control and less annoying muppet like production staff.
This I hope will help stear his film away from the realms of Dungeons and Dragons.
From teh world of gossip, I have heard that many celebrated directors who have seen the film (including Peter Weir) have stated that;
a: He has achieved a respectful rendering of the novel
b. He has shamed the Lucas/Star Wars franchise
c. He has added to movie art/history

All too much to believe, well I hope others can confirm these rumours.

(PS. A comment regarding the name 'The Lord of the Rings' as a perfect porno title shocked and tickled me. I had never thought of it that way, how naive)

PEACE

[ 30-10-2001: Message edited by: Wize Dragon ]
 
 
Bear
11:36 / 30.10.01
Wasn't that impressed with the trailer to be honest, looked exactly as I thought it would, didn't jump and make me think wow I have to see this, but I haven't read the books so maybe if I had more interest in the product i might have got all hetted up..
 
 
Saint Keggers
12:43 / 30.10.01
I thought the trailers looked amazing...it looked just like all the LOTR calendar paintings come to life...I cant wait. And the best thing so far? No JarJar!!!
 
 
The Natural Way
12:59 / 30.10.01
Yes, they're still going to call the next film "the two towers". Jackson really isn't interested in fucking over the text, so it should all be nice and good.
 
 
Harold Washington died for you
14:04 / 30.10.01
I hope he dosen't fuck with the books. I have been worried the Scouring of the Shire would be left out of the Return of the King. It falls after the big quest is completed, but still one of my favorite parts. anyone know?
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
14:47 / 30.10.01
A certain amount of book-messing with is inevitable. But supposedly, they were dead careful - and changed a few things because the fans made firm pro- or anti- statements.

Just gotta wait n see.
 
 
Fra Dolcino
14:55 / 30.10.01
I read a while back that they had altered the death of Sauruman, and some other stuff, but not drastically. Deviance from the book is to be expected I guess.

I dunno, I just thought I'd be excited by seeing the trailer, but it didn't overly impress.

Wize Dragon is right though, if anyone was going to direct it Jackson's the man.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
16:41 / 30.10.01
quoteeviance from the book is to be expected I guess.

Hurfle, snarp, chuntle.

Ahem.
 
 
tSuibhne
16:54 / 30.10.01
The big thing that seems to be pissing people off is Liv Tyler's charecter (an elf whose name I can't think of) taking part in battle scene's.

That seems to be the only big complaint so far.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
22:51 / 30.10.01
I think she's playing Galadriel (yes, I knew the name from memory. Forgive me). If she does take part in a battle scene, many a fantasy geek will be upset.
 
 
Harold Washington died for you
02:31 / 31.10.01
Liv Tyler's playing Arwen, the elf chica who is daughter of Elrond and is a love interest for another character. In the books she was about ten pages long but from what I understand has a much bigger part in this one, probably for the obligatory love story angle.

This just in, check out theonering.net for a whole mess of fanboy and girl materiel.

[ 31-10-2001: Message edited by: Morocco Mole ]
 
 
rizla mission
02:31 / 31.10.01
Never gave a hoot for the books, but the trailer looks wow-y.
You can tell already that it's going to be head & shoulders above all the other blockbuster nonsense..
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
11:39 / 31.10.01
Caught the trailer at the cinema the other day; looked pretty impressive to me. That said, I've only read The Hobbit, though I've been pushed along the path of reading the whole lot by someone who bought me a copy of the first book of the trilogy last night, with the understanding that I'll actually read it, and not just hem and haw over it.

But yes - the trailer looked like good, green eye-candy. And it's got to be better than The Phantom Menace, surely? Admittedly, my imagery of the series is influenced by the awfully cheesy cover-art of most of the books in a D&D-stylee, but the fact I didn't cringe at it would indicate that it's a relatively good job. For me, the uninitiated, at least.
 
 
invisible_al
16:15 / 31.10.01
I've had high hope for this one since the first trailer blew me away :-).

Second trailer is still looking quite fine as well, I'm not too fussed if they mess with the books a bit as I remember them being a real effort to plow through.

Oh and I agree that Jackson is the man, was quite impressed with 'the frighteners' which wasn't at all like it said on the tin.

NZ is also definately the place to film it, thought someone should do another fantasy film there ever since they used it for Willow (hey I like it).

And hey it least it won't be as bad as the D&D film :-).
 
 
Locust No longer
09:12 / 01.11.01
I wonder if Jackson is going to make a cameo like he usually does. I just watched Heavenly Creatures again and saw that little gremlin like man in one of the scenes.
 
 
The Natural Way
18:03 / 01.11.01
Having, as I do, a twin brother obsessively driven to find out all he can about the upcoming movies, I can assure you there will be very little textfucking.

Some of the bigger changes:

1. Aragorn and Arwen's %mutual appreciation% is ripped, seeping and groaning, from the appendices and made of an onscreen affair. But, contrary to rumour, Arwen won't be joining the nine on their quest, or whatever. And she doesn't get that much air time. Just enough so that it's made clear that she and Aragorn have got it going on. Something Tolkien fails to do (unless, as I mentioned previously, you're an LOTR appendix geek). She does stand in for Glorfindels at the ford, but who really cares about that?

2. Tom Bombadil gets the chop. Shame. But, plot wise, he is kind of extraneous.

3. The journey to Rivendell will be speeded up considerably. But how could it be otherwise?

4. Sauron will appear in the flesh, but only in the flashback scenes - "The Last Alliance of Elves and Men" and all that. He won't be some cackling baddy. He's still an eye. Sarumans the %human% threat.

5. Some of the sequences only referred to by word of mouth will be fully visualised: Gandalf and Saruman's standoff in Orthanc, frinstance.

And the scourging of the shire WILL happen.

As will all that grey havens, myth receding into the mist, jazz.

[ 01-11-2001: Message edited by: young runt ]

[ 06-11-2001: Message edited by: yunrunce ]
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
13:20 / 02.11.01
I'm a bit disappointed about anything that makes Sauron more corporial, I love the fact that you never know what's happening with him directly. And I don't know if Tolkien ever gives descriptions of what he looked like long ago, or what a Balrog looks like, so I expect a little disappointment on those two fronts, but otherwise I'm looking forward immensely.
 
 
Rev. Wright
00:17 / 06.12.01
Its nearly here, and I'm so very excited. Its definitely better than the expectation of the Phantom Dennis.

Can you really believe it, it's nearly upon us?

Bigger than a really big thing.

Oh Lordy......
 
 
Fra Dolcino
08:52 / 06.12.01
When's the actual release date in the UK? First one to see it and post a review wins a gold star!
 
 
mondo a-go-go
10:08 / 06.12.01
19th december. which is when i'm going to see it, because we're all sad geeks.

i've seen the trailers loads of times, and i still get a rush of excitement (something i haven't got from the star wars trailers). i didn't think a lot of the books, but i'm gagging to see the film...
 
 
pantone 292
10:56 / 06.12.01
rather than pull in marginal female figures to fill in the contemporary staple quantity of het love interest, I wish people like Jackson would just cunningly cast women actors in the male roles - Sigourney Weaver in old drag as Gandalf, or indeed swashbuckling drag as Strider, f'rinstance...
am still ridiculously excited by the film tho'
 
 
Fra Dolcino
11:15 / 06.12.01
quote:Originally posted by Kooky is a bad scamp:
i've seen the trailers loads of times, and i still get a rush of excitement (something i haven't got from the star wars trailers).


Don't start me off on that one! How anaemic is that Star Wars trailer?
 
 
Prisoner no. 1300
13:13 / 06.12.01
I practically orgasmed in my preoccupied young teenage boxers when I saw the poster at the cinema the other month, queueing up for some crap film (well, it beat getting stoned and then just sitting there listening to the fucking Deftones) but the trailer looked extremely boring. I am disappointed.

I stand by Apocalypse Now as a thing to see (ha ha shameless plug for my truly interesting topic on it.)
 
 
Doctor V
10:47 / 08.12.01
quote:Originally posted by young runt:
2. Tom Bombadil gets the chop. Shame. But, plot wise, he is kind of extraneous.


No that much of a shame really. Tom Bombadil always struck me as being the Jar Jar Binks of Middle Earth.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
18:00 / 08.12.01
ha ha ha ha ha ha
i love anachronistic simily and metaphor
 
  
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