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I Can't Believe Darth Vader Is Luke's Father

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bio k9

21:15 / 11.08.01

Doh!

Anyone ever ruin a movie for you? I overheard someone at the local Borders talking about The 6th Sense when it first came out. Fucker gave away the ending. Since I knew the ending I waited for it to come out on video. Good thing cause that movie is boring as hell without the "suprise" ending.

I am currently running from people that have seen the new Planet of the Apes until I see it next weekend (short on cash til next Friday).

Anyone ever ruin a movie for you?
Please- NO SPOILERS!

sleazenation

21:24 / 11.08.01

As far as i'm concerned if a narrative (film/book/whatever) *needs* the element of surprise to be entertaining then it has already failed to be an engaging story.The beginning and end of a story are largely unimportant compared to the journey between the two.

moriarty

13:20 / 12.08.01

"Luke very probably (and possibly mistakenly) chose to separate Anakin from Darth in his mind, just like Obi-Wan before him, therefore accepting the things Vader had done while still loving his father." - From Jedi Hell

Was it me? Oh, God, I've become what I've always hated!

uncle retrospective

14:28 / 12.08.01

Darth Vader is Luke's father!

Well there's no point seeing that then.

Sorry someone had to make the joke.

back on topic

I saw a poster in Sunderland for the usual suspects that someone had drawn an arrow to a certain person.
luckly I'd seen the film already.
My flatmate ruined the sixth sence for me.

CameronStewart

14:44 / 12.08.01

(Fight Club spoiler, but if you haven't seen it by now you deserve to have it spoiled)

I accidentally ruined Fight Club for my friend Sara; on her insipid television programme Rosie O'Donnell deliberately revealed the ending mere days after it had opened because she didn't like the film and wanted to do what she could to stop people from going. I was telling Sara about this and said, "...so then she turns around and tells everyone that Brad Pitt and Ed Norton are the same person! Can you believe she did that?"

The look of anger and disappointment on Sara's face told me that she hadn't seen the film yet...

I still say it's Rosie's fault.

[ 12-08-2001: Message edited by: CameronStewart ]

Jamieon

14:44 / 12.08.01

A friend of mine ruined it for a room full of people. He and a group of my mates were watching film 1999, and John Ross was laying down the basics - kid see's ghosts; goes to psychologist to get his head sorted, blah, blah, blah - and he just sussed the twist, right there and then.

There was a brief silence.

And then someone called him a cunt.

Mazarine

20:57 / 12.08.01

When the Daily Show was alledgedly revealing the winner of Survivor, they revealed the endings of The Usual Suspects, The Crying Game, (I think) and The Sixth Sense all in one shot. I ruined the Usual Suspects for myself by not paying any attention while my brother was watching it, and then glancing up at the very end to see what was going on. My ex-boyfriend ruined the Crying Game for me, but he was sure I'd already seen it. Friggin' know-it-all. But the Daily Show was wholly responsible for the Sixth Sense thing. But more movies will come, and who knows, maybe I'll hit my head or something.

Cop Killer

05:49 / 13.08.01

Dj Oi ruined the ending of the Sixth Sense for me (by saying: "My mom owes me ten bucks cuz I bet her that..." and completely gave away the ending, probably just to show that he was one step ahead of the movie), and almost ruined the ending of Fight Club, but I made him shut up before he could. The Crying Game is a movie that I've never seen but know how it ends because people constantly talk about it.

Stephen

07:02 / 13.08.01

Spoiler for shit film

The script writer and director ruined the ending of the Sixth Sense for me. That whole sequence where Bruce Willis GETS FUCKING SHOT DEAD at the beginning of the film, then the continued heavy handed labouring of the point that nobody else in the film is noticing or responding to his character except for the kid who sees dead people.

You call that a twist? I assumed that was actually the premise of the film when I was watching it, and was wondering what this much talked about exciting twist was going to be, then it just turned out to be something I thought we we're meant to know all along.

Liked the twist at the end of Unbreakable though. Didn't see that one coming although it's totally obvious looking back on it. They managed to pull off the misdirection properly. Much better fim, although it still had some of the annoying wanky elements of Sixth Sense and was dubiously paced in certain places.

Opalfruit

07:09 / 13.08.01

I 'may' have ruined The Usual Suspects for someone by commenting on Scary Movie, but I didn't reveal the identity I just mentioned where a certain bit was from - I got hit... I deserved it maybe.

Ant and Dec ruined 6th Sense for me (still haven't seen it)....

Don't know about Fight Club - have yet to see it.

And just to be mean - Care Bears Movie 2 Spoiler - the Care Bear Cousins come to their aid (courtesy of Grumpy and another bear I can't remember) and everyone learns the value of love and friendship.

deletia

08:44 / 13.08.01

quote:Originally posted by runt:
A friend of mine ruined it for a room full of people. He and a group of my mates were watching film 1999, and John Ross was laying down the basics - kid see's ghosts; goes to psychologist to get his head sorted, blah, blah, blah - and he just sussed the twist, right there and then.

There was a brief silence.

And then someone called him a cunt.

I did something very similar. The guy I was talking to responded by telling me the end of the Usual Suspects, which still lies unwatched in my video collection, it all seems a bit pointless.

Our Lady of The Two Towers

08:45 / 13.08.01

'The Sixth Sense', didn't see the plot twist coming and I still maintain in drunken arguments that the film makers used not only misdirection but also cheated to make us think he was still alive.

'Unbreakable', worked out the twistabout ten minutes beforehand by using the same principle, 'what does he want us to think we've seen but haven't actually seen?'

We're The Great Old Ones Now

08:45 / 13.08.01

quote:Originally posted by sleazenation:
As far as i'm concerned if a narrative (film/book/whatever) *needs* the element of surprise to be entertaining then it has already failed to be an engaging story.The beginning and end of a story are largely unimportant compared to the journey between the two.

Um.

I have to say I think that's a bit strong. Someone accidentally blew a climax moment from Angel to me a while back, and though the moment was still amazing, it didn't make me go 'oh FUCK' the way it would have if I hadn't known.

Good twists play from the story but catch you hopping anyway...and they're great when they work. Not the be-all, but definitely not to be trifled with.

And I guessed Sixth Sense at the end of the opening sequence. I've never been so bored as I was by the time Bruce figured it out...

moriarty

13:41 / 13.08.01

Sixth Sense I didn't get until about 15 minutes before the movie ended. Unbreakable, me and everyone I went to see it with figured it out in the first scene with Samuel Jackson. But then, we read too many comic books.

grant

13:44 / 13.08.01

I saw Sixth Sense as a matinee before I'd heard anything about a "twist ending."

Oh, and to quote Lucy Van Pelt:
Rosebud was his SLED.

Regrettable Juvenilia

14:05 / 13.08.01

Wow. I had the ending of that film spoiled by reading the very same Peanuts strip, g. Is it Linus or Charlie Brown who then flips all the way over yelling "AAAAARRRGGGHHH!" ?

Goodness Gracious Meme

15:03 / 13.08.01

[QUOTE]Originally posted by uncle retrospective:
I saw a poster in Sunderland for the usual suspects that someone had drawn an arrow to a certain person.[QUOTE]

god, a not only unfunny, but popular 'joke' it seems. same thing happened to a friend's brother in London. On the way to see it, he saw a poster on the tube somewhere with a circle drawn round the head of the relevant person. He didn't know much about the film so didn't really understand the significance until about, oh, 10 minutes in.

he came home absolutely fuming and told us about 20 times (we were going to see it later in the week) to avoid oxford circus tube like the plague.

re sixth sense, not sure what tipped me off, but i think in one of the scenes where he's talking to the kid it just clicked...Spent the rest of the film bored bored bored...

Regrettable Juvenilia

15:20 / 13.08.01

Surely the problem with all these films is that we know there's a twist at all, thanks to media hype beforehand? I twigged about Sixth Sense cos I knew there was one, but I'm not sure I would have had I known nothing about it... Same with Unbreakable.

Rex City-zen

15:50 / 13.08.01

Me-I belive that while Anakin is Luke's father, I don't belive that he is Vader.
Easy....
The reason why is: Why would Obi Wan go to live as a hermit on tatooine? Then there is the love triangle which comes into play with amidalla and anakin and kenobi.Plus...Anakin built c3po- wy would he fear his master?
Why tell luke "I am your father..." only after kenobi was dead...
NOPE- I think it's the switcheroo here...the big surprise end to the 2nd trilogy...Obi Wan was seduced by the dark side and became Vader while Anakin assumed the name Ben.
*koff-koff*
Man-I love Star Wars...
But I refuse to take anything at face value.
*koff*

moriarty

15:51 / 13.08.01

Any Superhero geek worth his longbox would've figured out Unbreakable before the first half was over.

One good "surprise" movie is Psycho. I swear, try watching it without knowing the "twist." Imagine you're in the theatre, all excited about the new Hitchcock flick starring Janet Leigh, involving something about illicit love affairs and stolen money. Ah, a good ol' fashioned Hitchcock vehicle. Wonder if Janet will repent for her theft, or get caught further and further in a web of deceit.

Then, Blammo!

Robot Man Reformed

16:15 / 13.08.01

quote:Originally posted by Lick my plums, bitch.:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by uncle retrospective:
I saw a poster in Sunderland for the usual suspects that someone had drawn an arrow to a certain person.[QUOTE]

god, a not only unfunny, but popular 'joke' it seems. same thing happened to a friend's brother in London. On the way to see it, he saw a poster on the tube somewhere with a circle drawn round the head of the relevant person. He didn't know much about the film so didn't really understand the significance until about, oh, 10 minutes in.

But c'mon.....

The Oscars gave it away.

Our Lady of The Two Towers

16:18 / 13.08.01

Rex- I would love it if your idea was true, but I think it's buggered by Ewan McGregor playing young Ben Kenobi with a fairly good impression of Alec Guinesses accent.

Not Here Still

16:28 / 13.08.01

Opalfruit:

And just to be mean - Care Bears Movie 2 Spoiler - the Care Bear Cousins come to their aid (courtesy of Grumpy and another bear I can't remember) and everyone learns the value of love and friendship.

You bastard. That's fucked that one for me.

The best thing to is find a cinema where they still have an outside queue.

One guy I know had the ending of the Usual Suspects ruined when a guy drove past the queue, wound the window down, and shouted 'The cr***** did it.'

I thought that was a bit of a lame gag myself.

Higher than the sun :)

16:33 / 13.08.01

Ok smart arses. Who figured out what was in the Box at the End of Se7en?

Mordant Carnival

18:26 / 13.08.01

quote:Originally posted by Monica:
Ok smart arses. Who figured out what was in the Box at the End of Se7en?

Me.

Rex City-zen

18:51 / 13.08.01

Let us not forget though that darth's vocals were fried during the battle which transformed him into the dark lord of sith.
SPOILERS?
Does anyone know what was in the unopened fed ex box in CASTAWAY?
A sattelite telephone with solar powered batteries...
True.
How's that for cruel?
4vr REX!

sleazenation

18:52 / 13.08.01

I thought it was going to be gwenyth's aborted foetus... but that's probably just me

The Puck

23:29 / 13.08.01

Was YOU in the birmingham Odean watching se7en shortly after its realese? was it friday? was you sitting behind a bunch of drunk and giggling punks who spent the entire last hour of the film chanting "its her head its her head" over and over untill they where escorted out? if so i would like to extend my deepest sympathy and most humblist of apologises we thought it would be funny you see, and any way the booze in my system made me do it against my will.

grant

12:54 / 14.08.01

quote:Originally posted by The Flyboy:
Surely the problem with all these films is that we know there's a twist at all, thanks to media hype beforehand? I twigged about Sixth Sense cos I knew there was one, but I'm not sure I would have had I known nothing about it... Same with Unbreakable.

Yeah. It worked for me cuz I wasn't looking for it. I'm really hoping Shamalayan uses his reputation now as a twist-ending director to foil expectations.

(An' I'm pretty sure it was Charlie Brown who freaked out over the Kane revelation.)

Cherry Bomb

14:23 / 14.08.01

quote:Originally posted by The Flyboy:
Wow. I had the ending of that film spoiled by reading the very same Peanuts strip, g.

ME TOO!!! But I was too young to really be bothered by it, and it was years and years before I saw the movie, at which point I was over it.

Cherry Bomb

14:26 / 14.08.01

quote:Originally posted by Monica:
Ok smart arses. Who figured out what was in the Box at the End of Se7en?

Marsellus' soul?

Er...

Dharma Bum

22:16 / 15.08.01

To drag this down to a much lower level, while I'm fairly certain the episode of "South Park" where Cartman gets his first pubes contains the most brilliant and unexpected twist ever, beyond any silly movie, I'm also fairly sure Parker and Stone cheated to mislead the viewer.

*SPOILER*

But, I mean, really. Better cannibalism scene than Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal, or Titus.

Hmmm. All three of which starred Tony Hopkins. Coincidence?

uncle retrospective

22:37 / 15.08.01

quote:Originally posted by sleazenation:
I thought it was going to be gwenyth's aborted foetus... but that's probably just me

No, I thought that too, maybe Fincher is a whimp director after all..

or were sick.

Jackie Susann

00:49 / 16.08.01

Best twist ending ever, far and away, is Kurt Angle vs the Undertaker at Survivor Series 2000.

enough

17:47 / 16.08.01

How bout cartman's mom being a hermaphrodite?
arrrrr......
His Dad is his...Mom?Who is his mom then?

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