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Stop the Rock? - Survivor Series

 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:08 / 20.11.01
So he's a billionaire, but he's still ready to drop his pants for an audience of milions and have an Englishman kiss his bottom.

Vince McMahon - fascinating fellow.

What now? Is Flair for Foley a decent exchange? Is Jericho going heel? Is Angle staying heel? Is the Rock going to lose his temper? Will RVD finally officially go face? All these and more...

[ 21-11-2001: Message edited by: The Haus of I.Ds ]
 
 
Ellis
20:15 / 20.11.01
Living without cable i missed this.

What happened?

Who kissed who's ass?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:22 / 20.11.01
In the survivor series itself, the Rock defeated Stone Cold (and thus the Alliance) after Kurt Angle turned traitor and clocked Stone Cold with the championship Belt. Before Jericho left, having been eliminated, he slammed the Rock. Bad Jericho.

On RAW, Vinny Mac offered to employ any Alliance wrestler who was prepared to kiss his ass on television. William Regal took up the challenge, such as it was.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
22:51 / 20.11.01
No. Please don't tell me Ric Flair's the new commissioner. That ratfucker needs to die...

And Jericho turning heel's been on the cards for an age...

Anything else, BauHaus? Speak! Jack hasn't seen it!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
06:19 / 21.11.01
Flair's not the new commissioner, although I imagine his arrival probably sped Foley's departure. He is being sold as the new part-owner of the WWF. Apparently, when Shane and Stephanie sold their shares in the WWF to buy WCW and ECW, they were selling them to a consortium which, unbeknownst to them, was in fact representing Ric Flair.

Other news - Jericho is heading for heel at speed - he blindsided the Rock after his match with Kurt Angle on RAW and put him in the walls of Jericho. Shano and Stephanie were dismissed, Shane going out with provision for a babyface turn (dignified and noble), Stephanie dragged out crying by security. The Alliance wrestlers (with the exception of Regal and Test, who won the one-year's immunity from sacking Battle Royale) are gone, other than those who held WWF belts at the time of the series - the Dudleys and RVD (natch), I think poss one other.

The big thread of RAW was that Vinny was becoming a monster of ego - the ass-kissing episode, firing Mick Foley, forcing RVD into a handicap match against the Dudleys, planning to strip Austin of the WWF championship in absentia and generally turning heel again. Flair arrived as a face. Angle is going heel because he doesn't feel appreciated for "saving the Federation". As Edge pointed out (Edge and Test, uniquely, were protected from the survivor series result - Test because of the Battle Royale, Edge because he held both the the WWF Intercontinental and WCW US titles), he did not take action against Austin until the end of the match, presumably because he was equally ready to sell out the WWF if necessary to ensure his own survival.

So, we probably have Vinny Mac leading a stable of heels headed up by Angle, Jericho and the Dudleys, Flair and possibly Shano Mac in a while with an army of faces lead by the Rock, RVD, Austin, Kane and the Undertaker. The Hardys will split up, one going to Flair and one to MacMahon at at guess, the APA I'm not sure about - having formed the emotional heart of the WWF's campaign, they could now go back to being amoral power brokers. HHH should be ready for a face turn, but may have to bulk out MacMahon's ranks with another big heel.
 
 
penitentvandal
06:57 / 21.11.01
Hmm.

The British representative kissing the American leader's arse in return for financial assistance...

Marvellous satire.
 
 
rizla mission
12:53 / 21.11.01
what the hell are you all talking about?

oh, yeah, all that wrestling business...
 
 
tracypanzer
13:19 / 21.11.01
I sure miss the Junkyard Dog. And the British Bulldogs. Those were the days...
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:36 / 21.11.01
Oh, JtB - can't remember if I answered your question. I don't think Booker T was retained, as he was not holding a WWWF title. However, he has probably gone to a smaller stable, and if he does well will be brought back with a new haircut and another name.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
13:50 / 21.11.01
Dig it.. ?
 
 
adamswish
13:53 / 21.11.01
quote:Originally posted by The Haus of I.Ds:
and if he does well will be brought back with a new haircut and another name.


you mean we could see a return of that old favourite: G.I. Bro?
 
 
Bear
20:35 / 21.11.01
Well I can finally look at this thread since I've just finshed watching it, yeah it was good actually, havn't seen RAW but things seem to be getting better for the ol WWF, HHH back next month and Hall and Nash back in Jan (probably)....

I just wish I had sky now... grrrr
 
 
Turk
23:37 / 21.11.01
Ewwww rimming for a job!
 
 
Molly Shortcake
02:22 / 23.11.01
RVD IS a babyface. He's just not in the kiss ass, rim job league that THE ROCK is.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
18:11 / 23.11.01
Foley left to write books and is currently working on a novel. Word is that his speech about it not being fun anymore was a shoot. It's too bad, since his ternure as Commissioner was one of the funniest periods of the WWF.

No one was let go after the defeat of the Alliance, and most of the people you aren't seeing on TV will be in the second group they are working on that will tour a lot more...Flair will get his own group of wrestlers as the storyline plays out.

One will be the RAW group and one will be the Smackdown group. At least that's the current plan, depending on how the ratings hold up.
 
 
The Damned Yankee
23:17 / 23.11.01
quote:Originally posted by The Haus of I.Ds:
The Alliance wrestlers (with the exception of Regal and Test, who won the one-year's immunity from sacking Battle Royale) are gone, other than those who held WWF belts at the time of the series - the Dudleys and RVD (natch), I think poss one other.




Everybody sing:

CHRISTIAN!
CHRISTIANNNNNN!
AT LAST
YOU'RE ON YOUR
OWNNNNNNNNN!

(European Champ, BTW )
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
23:17 / 23.11.01
Saw it on Wednesday night... and Haus, I think you mean that the Dudleys, Christian, RVD and Test were entitled to stay. As well as Stone Cold, apparently - what's all this crap about 'two' champions? I thought Survivor Series unified all of the belts?
 
 
higuita
10:16 / 24.11.01
The WCW belt is now the worrrrld championship! (and let us never mention that squalid little promotion again) and the WWF title remains thusly.
Glad to see the US title bite the dust, but I always felt it made a bit momre sense than an intercontinental belt.
As for asskissing, it's good to see Regal staying as, puppy gags aside, I enjoyed his tenure as commish more than Foley's.
Now don't get on my back about this, I love the great Cactus as much as anyone, but there has never been a moment to match the moments before the gimmick battle royale.
Kimchee: 'He wants you to rub the moons on his belly.'
Regal: 'I don't care what he wants. Get the bugger off my desk.'
Marvellous. Makes you proud to be English.
Oh, and the Rock can kiss my arse.
Not in an Etonian way though.

[ 24-11-2001: Message edited by: mr y ]
 
  
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