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Hayao Miyazaki (ie. the guy who did Princess Mononoke)

 
  

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videodrome
12:59 / 23.08.02
Mononoke came out pretty quick and is available as a decent DVD. But Kiki's and Totoro, both released by parent Disney rather than subsidary Miramax, are available only as pan-n-scan VHS. That blows. Both of those films were perfunctorily released and then buried, so as not to compete with Disney's product. That's certainly not the treatment they deserve.

But Studio Ghibli isn't really on the ball, either - there's too much Miyazaki that hasn't had a decent DVD release even in Japan.
 
 
CameronStewart
22:07 / 23.08.02
I just bought an import dvd of Spirited Away for 14 dollars in Chinatown. Lovely disc, wonderful sound, English subtitles, the lot. Class.

I don't particularly want to see the Disneyfied version because even though I trust John Lasseter I still prefer to hear the original Japanese language rather than an American dub. I disliked Mononoke until I heard it in its original language...
 
 
Margin Walker
05:03 / 24.08.02
Cameron wrote: I just bought an import dvd of Spirited Away for 14 dollars in Chinatown. Lovely disc, wonderful sound, English subtitles, the lot. Class.

(glare)

"I hate you Kenny"

Now if you got the whole Studio Ghibli "Spirited Away" DVD package, I'd be pissed off in earnest:

Even if it's completely useless, I love the plastic rice ball.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
19:37 / 25.08.02
I'm with Cam. I really dislike dubbing in general, and the movie probably won't even come anywhere near where I'm at. Does anyone know if Spirited Away is available as a region-free/region-0 disc?

(Regarding the title of this thread... Don't let the Princess fool you. Miyazaki ain't the only one. That girl gets around...)
 
 
CameronStewart
19:43 / 25.08.02
You might be able to find a bootleg dvd, Deric - the shop at which I bought mine also had region 0 bootleg copies for slightly less money. Mine's a region 3 Chinese import (with Japanese dialogue and English-only subs), but I've got an all-region player...
 
 
CameronStewart
19:45 / 25.08.02
I should also say that - ethical issues aside - from my experience bootleg dvds don't have any noticable degradation of picture or sound, like VHS does.
 
 
videodrome
22:22 / 25.08.02
You've been lucky, then, Cameron.

For instance, there's a multi-disc Miyazaki bootleg set commonly available via eBay. It looks an awful lot like this. Picture is bad - definitely worse than the official Ghibli releases and the sound is average at best. Plus, there's annoying little icons that pop up in the screen corner occasionally.

There's the bootleg of Versus (non Miyazaki, non-anime) that I watched. About as good as a decent VHS original with the added bonus of 20 seconds of J-pop inappropriately lodged in the audio track around the 22 minute mark.

Point is, while it's entirely possible to get decent bootlegs, it's a crapshoot with odds determined by the competency of the creators. My experience has been that a bootleg is nearly always noticeable as such. But sometimes it's the only way...
 
 
videodrome
04:12 / 02.09.02
Just watched the disc I got a few days ago.

Good god, this is a beautiful film, one of the most engrossing and perfect i've seen in a long time. Please, everyone see this. Please.
 
 
tSuibhne
03:51 / 23.09.02
Just got back from seeing Spirited Away in the theater. I ended up lucking out and found a local theater that's carrying the subtitled version of the film. Over all, the film is just beautiful. I spent the first 10-15 mins just marveling at the detail and beauty. This is the first Hayao Miyazaki film that I've seen on the big screen, and I just wish I'd seen them all like this. No way a TV can do this thing justice.

The story is good, if may be a little rushed at the end. The charecterization is litterally one of the best I've ever seen. Every charecter, no matter how small, appears completely grounded in the enviroment. I kind of wish this had been a TV series, instead of a movie, so we could spend more time explorering this world, and getting to know the charecters better. Just amazing.

I posted a link over in the Anime thread that lists the theaters. I can't reccomend this highly enough. Go see it.
 
 
rizla mission
13:27 / 23.09.02
Good god, this is a beautiful film, one of the most engrossing and perfect i've seen in a long time. Please, everyone see this. Please.

Yes.
 
 
gridley
13:32 / 23.09.02
Yeah, it was pretty great. I love No-Face. Definitely a rare thing for me to leave an anime film saying, "I've got to bring my girlfriend to see this next week, she'll love it." Go dog go.
 
 
tSuibhne
17:04 / 23.09.02
I just posted this to my blog and I think it sums it all up in a nice neat way.

Quick quote from this review of Spirited Away:

"Miyazaki has done it again, folks. Is anyone surprised?"
 
 
Margin Walker
22:06 / 23.09.02
Roger Ebert interviews Hayao Miyazaki here: http://www.suntimes.com/output/eb-feature/cst-ftr-ebert19.html Now if there was only a way I could see this sometime soon.....
 
 
rizla mission
10:05 / 07.01.04
Just resurrecting this thread so I can ask a question:

Can anybody vouch for the quality of Japanese editions of Miyazaki DVDs with English sub-titles..?

Cos ebay has a complete set of all his films and additional bits and pieces for £35 including p&p, which sounds pretty good to me unless there's a catch..
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:21 / 07.01.04
Spirited Away was the best film I saw at a cinema in 2003.
 
 
fishbiscuits
12:28 / 07.01.04
Are we talking about a box set rizla? If so, these are bootlegs.
I've seen one of these, a 6 dvd set. The picture was average - vhs quality, and the subtitles were poorly translated and confusing at times. Having said that, I guess it's down to how much you want copies of these, and whether you can afford better copies (though if you do want to go for a bootleg, you may be able to get one even cheaper)

If it's not a box set you're talking about, I don't know, the japanese releases of these are great, but I'd be dubious about your getting all the official japanese releases for that price.

www.nausicaa.net has a fairly comprehensive list of official dvds available for each miyazaki film, if you have any doubts.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
12:51 / 07.01.04
I got Spirited Away for Christmas!

It's the American version - the Disney one - and there was a moment of panic on Christmas day when I wasn't sure I could get my dvd player to play region one discs. Luckily I could, as my sisters boyfriend told me you can unlock them with a code. Phew!

But anyway, I watched the dubbed version, and it is kind of... diluted I'd say. They go to lengths to make everything a little bit too clear for my tastes, but I think I picked up on it a lot more because I'm familar with the original, subtitled version.

For example (and SPOILER!)

Near the end, when Chihiro tells Haku his real name, it becomes pretty apparent - and he says "My name is Kohaku River!" rather than "my name is Kohaku Nagishiwhateveritis" and it's all a little heavy handed around the more sensitive moments. In fact, there are only a few certain points in the film where I felt like they'd really tampered with it, but it did make me sit up and take notice. (That's the only thing that felt odd that I can remember...) It all felt a little clunky to me, and spoils it somewhat, but not irrevocably.

Luckily, the disc includes the orignal Japanese and subtitles, so I shan't complain. It's also got quite a few nice extras on the making of the film, and the whole working process. I think a couple are orignal Japanese TV shows. As well as some bits and pieces on the American voice-overs, but that's not very interesting.

It really is a beautiful film, and somehow perfectly captures what I feel should have been Saturday morning telly when I was young, like Rizla said. It's just unfortunate that it seems we only become aware of this when we're older. I know a few people who remember Laputa the flying island, from their childhood days, like it is the thing of legend. I think it's amazing that Miyazaki can kind of capture that feeling of being young, and I say we all make an effort to get children to see his films. FOR THE CHILDREN!

I'm making a terrible attempt at explaining how this film makes me feel, but I put that down to it making me feel like a little boy snug in bed who discovers this amazing enchanting film world, like he is half dreaming, because normally such televisual things do not successfully capture the imagination of youth. etc.
 
 
moriarty
13:36 / 07.01.04
I'm sure I've mentioned it somewhere, though it must not have been on this thread, but Howl's Moving Castle, Miyazaki's newest film (not yet completed), is based on a novel by Diana Wynne Jones.

"It's fantastic. No, I have no input - I write books, not films. Yes it will be =different= from the book - in fact it's likely to be very different, but that's as it should be. It will still be a fantastic film."

I couldn't get it to work, but this is aparently a 20-second trailer for the film.

Porco Rosso, the Miyazaki film I most want to see, has been dubbed in English and is set for home video. I hope they continue to include the original Japanese dub with subtitles.
 
 
CameronStewart
14:58 / 07.01.04
I have an official Ghibli dvd of Porco Rosso that I bought in Japan, and in addition to the Japanese language track there's also an English track (not the same as the new one, dreadful acting) and a French track starring Jean "Leon/The Professional" Reno as Porco!
 
 
moriarty
16:45 / 07.01.04
I heard about the Jean Reno thing. He'd be perfect for the role. How much better to have him then Micheal Keaton.
 
 
rizla mission
16:51 / 07.01.04
Yeah, looks like the box set is probably a bootleg..

What's the dialogue like on the official Disney releases? Do they have Japanese w/ English subtitle modes? Cos I think it would be dreadful to get lumbered with the inevitably crappy Hollywood redubbed versions..

I know a few people who remember Laputa the flying island, from their childhood days, like it is the thing of legend.

Yeah, for some reason it was on ITV one saturday lunchtime! I thought it was the greatest thing I'd seen in my life, but my parents wanted to go somewhere and were like "when is this bloody cartoon going to end?", and to their eternal shame they dragged me away before it had finished. I nearly exploded when I went to see 'Laputa' at the cinema and discovered it was the same film!
 
 
fishbiscuits
17:30 / 07.01.04
The official disney DVDs released so far have both the dub and the original Japanese audio tracks on.

If you were interested in getting Princess Mononoke, as I understand it the UK release only has dubtitles so you might be better off going for the US release. Don't know if this is the case for any of the others though.
 
 
Simplist
18:20 / 07.01.04
I'll chime in quickly to second the various recommendations for the Nausicaa manga--one of my favorite comics ever, period (still haven't seen the film, though). While the manga is still available in four $16 volumes, Viz is in the process of rereleasing much of their catalog in slightly smaller $9.95 editions (presumably to compete with the uber-successful Tokyopop). Here's a link to the soon-to-be-released Nausicaa v.1, 2nd edition.
 
 
rizla mission
20:54 / 07.01.04
I couldn't agree with you more.. I've read the first two volumes of the Nausicaa manga, and it's incredible.. perhaps I'm just a weird shmuck, but bits of it are so moving..
 
 
Spatula Clarke
01:32 / 11.01.04
If you were interested in getting Princess Mononoke, as I understand it the UK release only has dubtitles so you might be better off going for the US release.

The only difference between the US and UK releases is the DVD region encoding. Language options and extras are exactly the same across both.
 
 
rizla mission
13:22 / 11.01.04
The UK version of Mononoke (which I picked up in a sale last week) has a perfectly adequate Japanese w/ sub-titles mode..

..and it's also even better than I remember it being..
 
 
fishbiscuits
16:01 / 11.01.04
I think you may have misunderstood me. I wasn't suggesting that there wasn't a japanese with subtitles option, merely that I as far as I had heard, and as is mentioned in the descriptions in the link below, the english subtitles on the UK release are subtitles of the dub, whereas the subtitles on the US release are supposed to be a more literal translation of the japanese.

princess mononoke

This probably isn't a problem to most people, but it might be to some, so I thought I'd mention it. Apologies if this information is incorrect.
 
 
Bandini
08:39 / 20.08.07
Just thought some Barbelith Miyazaki fans might not have seen this. Basically some people decided to build a real version of the glider from Nausicaa.

Glider
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:56 / 20.08.07
I'll have to give Mononoke another try at some point. It was the first Miyazaki that I'd seen and I didn't like it much (it wasn't bad, just a bit meh), but then Spirited Away, Howls Moving Castle and My Neighbour Totoro (in the order I saw them) were fantastic. Especially Totoro, I remember the scene of the girls standing by the bus-stop and then suddenly Totoro is there as well, trying to look inconspicous... the end of that brought me close to tears.
 
 
Seth
10:02 / 20.08.07
That YouTube link is utterly, utterly amazing. I want one.

Although what I actually want is to be Princess Nausicaa, truth be told.
 
 
Sibelian 2.0
11:20 / 20.08.07
Has anyone been to see "Tales of Earthsea"? Miyazaki's son directed.

It was on at the Edinburgh film Festival but I was excessively slack and didn't get round to doing anything about it.

Any good, if so?
 
 
Bandini
11:27 / 20.08.07
I've got it on DVD and i actually really enjoyed it. Really quite a mature first film with some really interesting subconscious interludes. Something i would like to watch again.
Wasn't as much dragon action as i was expecting though.
 
  

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