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Gene Simmons on NPR

 
 
Molly Shortcake
01:07 / 08.02.02
> February 6, 2002 -- THE quiet and high-minded National Public Radio
airwaves
> were shattered earlier this week by a name-calling confrontation
between -
> of all people - tongue-waggling KISS frontman Gene Simmons and
soft-spoken
> interviewer Terry Gross.
> Simmons, a guest on Gross's show, "Fresh Air," called her "boring."
And
> Gross called Simmons "obnoxious."
>
> No one could remember the kind of dust-up that reminded fans more of
the
> Howard Stern show
>
> "The notion is if you're going to welcome me with open arms you also
have
to
> welcome me with open legs," said Simmons, was on the show to promote
his
new
> book, "KISS and Make-Up."
>
> "That's a really obnoxious thing to say," Gross fired back.
>
> "No, it's not. Why should I say something behind your back that I
can't
tell
> you to your face?" said Simmons.
>
> The interview was apparently so controversial that NPR has declined
to
make
> it available on its Website where it posts at least portions of
nearly all
> other interviews that appear on "Fresh Air," one of its most popular
daily
> shows.
>
> At one point, Gross asked Simmons about his "studded codpiece."
>
> "It holds my manhood, otherwise it would be too much for you to
take,"
> Simmons said. "You'd have to put the book down and confront life."
>
> The conversation continued:
>
> Gross: Has it come to this? Is this the only way you can talk to a
woman,
> with that shtick?
>
> Simmons: Let me ask you something - why is it shtick when all women
have
> ever wanted since we crawled out of caves is, 'Why can't a man just
tell
me
> the truth and speak to me plainly?' So if I do that, you can't have
it
both
> ways.
>
> Gross: So you really have no sense of humor about this, do you?
>
> Simmons: I was going to suggest you get outside of the musty place
where
you
> can count the dust particles falling around you and get out into the
world
> and see what everybody else is doing.
>
> Gross: Having sex with you?
>
> Simmons: Well, if you choose but you'd have to stand in line.
>
> Gross: OK, well we since you keep bringing this up . . . You write
that
> you've had 4,600 sexual liasions."
>
> Simmons: You're supposed to say 'so far.'
>
> Gross: "So far. To you this will be asking the obvious, but why have
you
> wanted so many encounters?"
>
> Simmons: "M-A-N, the notion is plain."
>
> Gross: "I'd like to think the personality you presented on our show
today
is
> a persona that you've affected as a member of KISS, but that you're
not
> nearly as obnoxious when you're at home or with friends."
>
> Simmons: "Fair enough, and I'd like to think that the boring lady
who's
> talking to me now is a lot sexier and more interesting than the one's
who's
> doing NPR, studious and reserved."
>
> Gross could not be reached yesterday for comment.

Middle aged insecure cock rock asshole. Funny though.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:35 / 08.02.02
Terry Gross is great... I'm just annoyed that they haven't put this on the NPR Website, which is where I've heard Fresh Air interviews before. It's the kind of show that makes you realise how low the quality of most interviews (in most formats) is today... They're mostly promotional puff-pieces. It's so rare that anyone clashes with an interviewee like that anymore. More please.
 
 
grant
15:47 / 08.02.02
I heard a "on Fresh Air today" kind of blurb about this, but couldn't hear the interview. Man, it looks like I missed something grand.

She's so mild and soft-spoken, usually....
 
 
grant
15:52 / 08.02.02
Ooo! It's being rebroadcast on Fresh Air Weekend!!

Philadelphia Inquirer: quote:
Gross said yesterday that she had never had a guest "who went to this extreme to provoke me. I was shocked at how totally humorless he was about himself, life and the interview."

NPR did not put the interview on its Web site because Simmons would not sign a legal release form.


[ 08-02-2002: Message edited by: grant ]
 
 
MJ-12
15:54 / 08.02.02
Man, re-run that one during pledge week.
[edit]
off by seconds! Anyway, even better.

[ 08-02-2002: Message edited by: MJ-12 ]
 
 
casemaker
15:58 / 08.02.02
I heard this when it was aired. It was absolutely brutal. Terry Gross, usually very composed, was so shocked that she was stammering all over the place. Yeah Simmons is a fatuous ass, but his rhetoric was so quick witted and vicious that I'm surprised he could hold his own in a verbal joust with Terry. Because, as stated before, he's just a bloated has-been.

On a personal note, I've had a crush on Terry's voice for years now. Despite her "studious and reserved" manner she has quite a lusty voice. Maybe this is something that pathetic clown was picking up on.
 
 
grant
16:06 / 08.02.02
I remember her bizarre interview with Monica Lewinsky, where she actually recorded a little apology to her listeners afterwards.

Monica refused to talk about the fact that she had sex with the president. Which, of course, is the only reason she was there in the first place. She actually called the interview off the second time Gross mentioned Clinton's name.

here it is.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
16:11 / 08.02.02
Um, from the Fresh Air website:

This week on Fresh Air Weekend: An interview with Gene Simmons, rebroadcast from Monday, February 4th. Check your local station schedule for listings.

and

[Simmons declined to give permission for this Web site to offer audio of his interview, or sell tapes or transcripts of it.]
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
16:14 / 08.02.02
Also: Terry Gross fans may also be interested in checking out
Dorian on WFMU.

[ 08-02-2002: Message edited by: Flux = That Dastardly Dilettante ]
 
 
Ganesh
09:34 / 09.02.02
Hmm. According to Donna's Long & Short of It, Simmons has an average-sized penis but "excellent control" of that tongue. So there y'go.
 
 
The Damned Yankee
12:32 / 09.02.02
So what do you get when a guy grows old but never grows up? Gene Simmons.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
15:58 / 09.02.02
you know, when i've i've heard him talk before, i've always been amazed by how smart and incisive he was... there was an article / interview with him in the ny times magazine a couple months ago and he just seemed by far and away more articulate and clever than any cockrocker has a right to be.

he told one funny stories about how he grew up in israel and when he finally came to america he thought Santa Clause was a rabbi...

and there was that infamous bit at the dawn of MTV when he showed up at their office wearing kneepads... it was a successful stunt, in that the execs were very much publicly embarassed, & it exposed the pay-to-play climate that the insidious network was creating.
 
 
moriarty
03:14 / 11.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Ganesh v4.2:
Hmm. According to Donna's Long & Short of It, Simmons has an average-sized penis but "excellent control" of that tongue. So there y'go.


I remember seeing him on Oprah once (go ahead, laugh it up) and she asked him just how long his tongue was. His response, "Long enough to make me your best friend..."

I never really realized just how much Gene has been around.

He doesn't appear to be too picky.
 
 
philippa6
08:35 / 11.02.02
quote:Originally posted by casemaker:
I heard this when it was aired. It was absolutely brutal. Terry Gross, usually very composed, was so shocked that she was stammering all over the place. Yeah Simmons is a fatuous ass, but his rhetoric was so quick witted and vicious that I'm surprised he could hold his own in a verbal joust with Terry. Because, as stated before, he's just a bloated has-been.


Well, jumping kings and moving men just ain't my cuppa meat, as some guy in minnesota said once. What you characterisze as quick witted and viscious rhetoric, I'd simply classify as the typical banalities of the well rehearsed bully. His fans, and those who don't really sit to parse it (and I presume you listened casually), hear riposte and parry, and possibly conflate or confuse the bludgeon of the bully with the true rapier of badinage, persiflage or raillery. I would withold the term wit from this Simmons schlub, and reserve it for the Gore Vidal's and Dorothy Parker's of the world, for good or ill. I am not here intending to attack you, merely to ask you to refine a bit your observations. Or at least for others to consider mine. Thanks.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
15:01 / 11.02.02
There's a 25Mb MP3 of the Gene Simmons interview to be found over on this page...
 
 
Shortfatdyke
18:39 / 11.02.02
well, did anyone expect a cartoon character like simmons to act any other way?? i will listen to the mp3 tomorrow (i only have sound at work), but it seems like standard spinal tap stuff, direct from cliche city.

tho that's not to say the bloke isn't a total tosser.....
 
 
Ria
17:53 / 16.02.02
I think Mr. Simmons got pissed off because he had heard the same questions about the makeup angle a googolplex of times.

he did not conceal his agenda (to the extent that he has one). I think he came off better than she did. gee, a discordant point of view. when do you ever hear that on commmercial radio? (yep, I said commercial and I meant it.)

he did make good points. first that Terry Gross adopts a meda persona. (and she pointed out that he does too. but he sounded more true to life.)

second that neither do the two of them make invaluable contrbutions to human life or even human art. if he had believed that he did I would have trouble trusting him... if you know what I mean... I would have thought him deluded.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
18:17 / 16.02.02
Yeah, cos of course, no one is *really* studious and reserved, right? All of those librarian chicks, you take their glasses off, and they are hot sluts! Just like in porn movies!

I can't see how Terry Gross was in the wrong for asking any of the questions that she did - or for standing up to a sexist egomaniacal loudmouth. As many people have noted in the threads about Knowledge +1, just having a 'discordant' or 'un-PC' point of view does not excuse mindlessness, much less automatically lend repulsive ideas and immature behavior merit.

[ 16-02-2002: Message edited by: Flux = Rad ]
 
 
videodrome
18:34 / 16.02.02
If Simmons had just come across as a guy obsessed with his own cock, I would have thought a lot better of him. At first I thought, OK - he likes to have sex and he likes money and he's not ashamed of it. His attitudes will keep him from having certain kinds of relationships, but he's happy so, fine.

But I don't think he is.

He made a lot of backwards and halfway disparaging comments about people who are educated, who live their lives through books, but would then take the trouble to prove he knew what words meant, or the 'subtle' differences between terms. His puns were lame and desperate, and to me he came across as a guy who wants to be taken seriously by educated people, for whatever reason. I can't see why he would even try some of the lame wordplay otherwise. Additionally, his Israeli heritage is used as intellectual cred - "Look, I'm not American. I'm foreign, so it's not that I'm like this because I'm dumb and can't help it. I made a choice. Isn't that savvy and ironic?"
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
12:58 / 17.02.02
I think that's what irked me the most, too. Admittedly, he started out with "close, but no guitars" which was the Spinal Tap level I was expecting: but to then sorta try to lord it over Gross with the whole "of course it doesn't sound right, coming out of a Gentile mouth" bit (which she isn't) and the relentless sort of equation of women to sex-sellers and to try and pass that off as fucking insight... I mean - please!

I don't know: on the one hand, he's pushing the whole Voice Of Experience line, on the other he says that life's too short to have anything but delusional ideas about yourself; obviously some of us more than others. It was a rather odious broadcast, I have to say: he sounds like the sort of guy who'd be well-served by an extended holiday in Selfawaria, as opposed to the sunny beachside suburb of Narcissico, wherein he currently resides.
 
  
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