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Peter Milligan: Skreemer and beyond...

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tSuibhne

13:52 / 06.03.02

From the sleaze post here (go to the bottum). We get this

In particular, this quote from Karen Berger:

quote: "With Peter's popularity increasing, thanks to his work on X-Force and the excitement around the new Human Target graphic novel, this seemed like the best possible time to publish it. We're thrilled to be collecting this Eagle-award winning series."

I realize it's probably just total PR bullshit, to cover up them trampling over Milligan's rights to release the book with another company (read the article) But, I can't help but think, may be, just may be, if we wish hard enough, and eat all our vegitables, they MIGHT release a Shade trade. Wouldn't that be lovely?

Murray Hamhandler

14:22 / 06.03.02

It would, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If it's any consolation, though, for those who haven't read Skreemer, it definitely ranks up there w/what I consider to be Milligan's best work (along w/his better issues of Shade, Enigma, and X-Force). Definitely worth checking out.
Arthur Sudnam

Murray Hamhandler

14:52 / 08.11.02

(ba-BUMP!)
Here! We can use this thread for general Milligan discussion, since there seems to be a lot of buzz on 'im at the moment.

kid coagulant

16:15 / 08.11.02

Website here w/ relevant Milligan info (up to 199, at least).

Anyone read 'The Eaters'? I heard it was good.

gridley

19:43 / 08.11.02

Eaters was cute, but it one of the last blips before he sunk into that long period of utter hackdom.

ONLY NICE THINGS

11:02 / 09.11.02

Lengthy period of hackwork? I recall about 12 issues of Elektra, an Archangel One-Shot and 4 issues of "The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix: the New Class" or whatever the Hell it was called.

What did I miss?

glassonion

11:18 / 10.11.02

yesterday's best buy was the 2oooad annual 1990, w. a bad company text story that segues very nicely with the incidents of book one. and, more betterly, a zenith interlude, a 60s christmas mandala story with art by jim mcarthy [brendan's brother, right?]. very that-period morrison, all alice, jack the ripper, superkilroy and ambulant visionarilies. ace. does anyone agree that there were too many 'a bit boring' issues of shade to make a lengthy tpb any cop? i'd like to see milligan pick like the ten best issues, maybe with a thematic link, and repackage them instead of trying and failing to reprint the whole seventy-whatever issues.

yawn - thing's buddy

13:23 / 10.11.02

good point glassers! (bout shade)

more importantly - some crunt should gather all of McCarthy's covers etc. and put them in one big book.

reverso's covers for shade were the best thing about that comic.

not a fan.

sleazenation

16:56 / 10.11.02

true not all of shade was a stand out sparkling read-fest - but there were some great storylines that an consecutively and could easily be collected - most notably 'a season in hell' - The run from 30-50 would also work well as a number of trades too...

Murray Hamhandler

15:25 / 11.11.02

Haus sez: "Lengthy period of hackwork?"

It's a bit after that particular period you mention, but I might toss Minx into that mix. Fairly unimpressed, myself, and not particularly surprised that it got cancelled so quickly.

XXII:X:II = XXX

19:53 / 11.11.02

I find it interesting that the only comment in that blurb was from Berger. And I wonder what the follow-up stories are going to be.

If it's of any consequence, I believe Rogan Gosh: Star of the East is one of the finest pieces of comic art ever produced. Just to exhibit my biases at the get-go.

The Falcon

22:13 / 11.11.02

I might toss Minx into that mix.

Damn right. I bought the last 5 issues of it for £10 the other week, in a fit of Milligan-madness, and was sorely unimpressed. Nice art, though.

His Batman stuff isn't exactly mould-breaking either, but is reasonable, readable Batman. If you like that sort of thing.

mr Squiggle

05:48 / 12.11.02

I really dug the Winter's Edge Minx stories, which made the series that much more disappointing. But then Milligan tends to excel in short contained stories & lose it a bit on ongoing narratives. He skimmed over this question in his Sequential Tart interview:

"PM:I think The Minx was something that could have been very good but for a number of reasons — most of them down to me — never came to life."

sleazenation

07:11 / 12.11.02

So what did people think of milligan and mc carthy's skin - or is it still widely unread?

The Natural Way

07:18 / 12.11.02

I remember quite liking it, but for the life of me I can't remembermuch about it. Except that our hero canes some hippies.

DaveBCooper

12:55 / 12.11.02

Threadrot, maybe, but I spotted this on Newsarama, and don't think it's been posted elsewhere:

"Vertigo X Preview is a 99-cent comic that comes out in February. The 48-page book features a new Shade the Changing Man story by Peter Milligan and Mike Allred"

So Shade-lovers don't even need to save many pennies...

DBC

Mister Six, whom all the girls

15:29 / 12.11.02

Eh. I really get an acrid taste in thje back of my throat over Skreemer. Loads of Finnegan's Wake references, flashback/present time nonsense and gangsters... Plus it's easy to find for a few bucks almost anywhere. My impression was that Cyberosia (who were going to reletter the whole series because Scott O Brown has a strange fetish for lettering) just assumed rights to reprint it and never asked for them (as per an article in Comic Shop News). This lead to DC reprinting it to cash-in on X-Force's then-popularity (is it still going well?).

I love Shade and have a complete collection I'm thinking of selling not because I don't love it but because I've read it twice and so many people have never read it at all.

Rogan Gosh is pretty funny, Eaters is cute, Minx... ugh. I'd sell that too. But no one has mentioned my favorite which was Girl. Fegredo was top-notch and the story was quite good.

Mr Tricks

19:30 / 12.11.02

Hey!! I liked the Minx!!

The Falcon

01:05 / 13.11.02

Why? I'll admit I got the last 5 issues, and was unable to get the first four, but it seems autopiloted, really. When was the fix in for cancellation?

shrinky dinky

08:13 / 13.11.02

hey, the minx might not have been outstanding, but then nobody's perfect all the time. at least milligan is one of the (admittedly many) writers that, come a new project, i'll check it out.

but to be completely irrelevant, doesn't marvel's current cover design really really suck?

Our Lady of The Two Towers

11:45 / 13.11.02

From the little of the concept that Milligan let slip over the first eight issues, the Minx seemed to be a remix of Shade, someone who's power has as many ill effects as good, Shade had the Madness, girlie had The Minx. But that said, I think it got shut down too early. If it had been allowed to go at least as far as Outlaw Nation it might have developed a fanbase. The last issue was rubbish.

The Natural Way

12:36 / 13.11.02

Shrinky: don't really think so. Had you seen it before? I mean, the mid-nineties....real bad.

Jack Fear

12:15 / 19.11.02

The official solicit is not yet up online, but a little bird tells me that a SHADE paperback was announced at the recent comics retailer's convention. First six issues, eighteen bucks American, available February.

This, coupled with the release of the SKREEMER paperback, makes me think that people are starting to "get" Milligan. Though why they led off the rediscovery with something as frankly obscure as SKREEMER...

sleazenation

12:39 / 19.11.02

Jack I think the reason that DC started to capitalise on their Milligan back catalog only recently and with his more obscure work Skreemer are entirely because another publisher, Cyberosia were making moves to aquire rights to publish their own version - Cyberosia's faith in Milligan's work appears to have given DC the kick they needed to actually do something... and the success of xstatix can't have hurt...

The Natural Way

13:09 / 19.11.02

Not only that, Jack, but there's an original Shade story (w/ art by ALLRED!!!!) in some spesh Vertigo bollocks, due some time next year.

Jack Fear

13:13 / 19.11.02

Yeah, the new SHADE story is also due in February.

In marketing class we called that "synergy."

The Natural Way

14:46 / 19.11.02

Right here I call it SKILLIAN' ACKSHEEEEEEAAAARN!

Murray Hamhandler

19:38 / 19.11.02

And let's not forget that Milligan and Allred have collaborated on a Shade story in the past (in Vertigo Jam).

The Falcon

20:00 / 27.11.02

Hey, hey, hey.

What's all this then?

Shade tpbs, is it? I'm happy, and I suspect you are too.

mr Squiggle

11:38 / 28.11.02

I re-read the American Scream (1-19) when the collection was announced to see how it stands up. Better than I thought it would, but probably a bit too long. I found it occasionally cliché & trite but mostly entertaining & innovative. The art is up & down as Chris was still developing his style. Im glad they are doing it & I hope it sells enough to do the next 44 or so issues, but my vote would be for some of the shorts. Girl is a favorite of mine too Mister Six. Fun silly story & lots of energy in Fegredos Cartooning. From Kill your Boyfriend it seems vertigo dont like keeping small books in print so perhaps a Midnight Days type Girl/Face/Eater/ plus Heartthrobs/Weird War stories collection. Perhaps if shade does well. Likewise perhaps Cyberosia could do strange days/freakwave/paradax if Jonny Nemo sells well.

moriarty

04:06 / 12.12.02

There's a new kind of comic convention that's setting up shop in Toronto. It says on their site that Darwyn Cooke's Wolverine/Doop team-up will be set in Toronto. Finally, a superhero comic that gets Canada right.

How is this related to Milligan? For the book's launch The Beguiling, greatest comic store in North America, wil have Milligan, Cooke and both Allreds on hand for a signing.

videodrome

04:51 / 12.12.02

Finally, a superhero comic that gets Canada right.

Oh, come on. Bernie Mierault's The Jam got it right a long time ago.

moriarty

06:06 / 12.12.02

I was thinking in terms of the Big Two. I've seen plenty of independent work by local talent, but the Canada of Alpha Flight tends to frighten me.

Murray Hamhandler

14:05 / 12.12.02

Izzat written by Darwyn Cooke as well?

sleazenation

14:40 / 12.12.02

big yay for the beguiling here - only plce i could find pete milligam and brendan Mc arthy's skin...

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